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March 26, 2023 at 10:31 am in reply to: Why Jordan Walker will start the season in AAA – not MLB #214756
DH will be a scramble.
4 OF that should be everyday players (would be on most teams).
3 middle infielders for 2 positions.
A catcher that will frequently DH to rest his legs.
Corner infielders that will occasionally DH, to get a half day off.
Not to mention Alec and Motter.
So only professional (paid) baseball players should ever coach professional players?
I think CC showed very clearly what the issue is.
I don’t know what salary would make Jack happy. But if it would take a “market value” (contact he would get as a Free Agent) then it makes no sense for the Cardinals to offer that, especially considering the risk of injury to a pitcher.
The sense I get, and I could certainly be wrong, is Jack is protesting the system and is not blaming the Cardinals for following the system. He probably KNOWS full well EVERY other team would pay him similarly (within a few thousand dollars more or less).
If Jack wants to paid as a Free Agent, he will need to wait (hoping he doesn’t get injured) until he is a Free Agent or at the earliest the final arbitration year.
A major league hitter can crush a mid 90s straight fastball down the middle of the plate. The well placed change up, slider, curve, etc. can be a problem. Just like it always has been.
How about a high 90s – low 100s fastball with movement?
Pitchers today (on average) throw much harder for much fewer innings. And then a series of relief pitchers come in, many throwing close to or over 100 MPH (e.g. 105.2 MPH).
I fell in love with baseball because of Whiteyball. I would LOVE to see how a Cardinals team built on contact (switch) hitters, exceptional speed, TERRIFIC defense and outstanding pitching would do now.
I dislike strikeouts so I fear O’Neill’s strikeout rate. I hope O’Neill can improve.
Trying to state what a player would do (would have done) in a different era is a waste of time.
Yes competition level is different.
But so is the training and equipment.
Even the rules are different.
Bader by month in 2019 –
Apr – .224/.387/.429/.816
May – .250/.328/.383/.712
Jun – .155/.274/.324/.598
Jul – .146/.239/.195/.434
Aug – .313/.450/.531/.981
Sep/Oct – .191/.274/.372/.646Jun, Jul, and Sep/Oct were pretty rough.
I don’t like Bader hitting in front of the pitcher were he will never see a fastball. I would much prefer to see him bat ninth (leadoff hitter after the first inning).
Did the pitching staff know it continued in 2018, or were they only aware of the 2017 cheating?
For each AAA team that is an increase of around $120,000 per YEAR. A little more than one month of Major League minimum for one player. The MLB team can easily offset that cost by keeping the AAAA players in AAA a few extra days a year.
The added cost is much less at the lower levels.Reading that article it seems Arenado’s beef is with the GM, not the owner. If so, it may be better (from the owner’s point of view) to replace the GM.
To trade for Arenado, any acquiring team will need Arenado to “wave” his Opt Out. However, he can’t just wave it. The players’ association will (rightly) not allow a player to give away value in his contract. So the acquiring team will need to give Arenado something in exchange. The most likely thing to give Arenado is another guaranteed year, which means more money and more risk.
In my mind, what it would take for the Cardinals to trade to for Arenado is for Matt Carpenter to have a great first half making him valuable to the Rockies.
MM3, you are thinking of Jimmy Rollins.
Not my favorite player.Whiteyball is THE reason I became a baseball fan.
Do we know Castellanos took less than Ozuna in 2020?
Is his contract back loaded, front loaded, or is the money evenly spread across the term of the contract?
Yes the Cardinals have money scheduled to come off the books in a couple of years.
But they have been counting on that when they signed Goldschmidt to the extension.
If one believes the Cardinals’ pitchers, they like having Molina catch because of his pitch calling ability. So it seems that the Cardinals’ pitchers like Molina’s iron man mentality.
Yes, Wacha was the 19th pick.
I believe earlier in this thread, Brian stated that in last year’s draft the Ozuna compensation pick would have been the 78th pick and worth $0.8M.
But the exact value is not my point.
My point is the signing team will need to give up a higher value pick than the Cardinals would receive. So for all the reasons Cardinals’ fans would prefer the compensation pick, the other teams would have more reason to not give up the pick for Ozuna and therefore sign Castellenos instead.
10% of MLB managers lost their job this week.
Welcome back easton. You usually provided great input with your posts. Just don’t get baited into pointless arguments. 😉
I have no problem with someone valuing Castellenos more than Ozuna. I disagree but I understand that reasoning.
I am arguing that the getting the compensation draft pick is a reason for the Cardinals to prefer Castellenos.
The $1M value of the compensation pick in my example is just a number for the example. If the value of the compensation pick is greater than the value of the signing team’s lost pick is even greater.
Basically, the greater the value of the picks, the greater Ozuna’s value is decreased, the greater savings for the Cardinals to resign him,AND the greater the risk of him not signing until after the draft.
I don’t mind getting Ozuna on a one year pillow deal. The Cardinals get a bargain. Ozuna has another chance to prove his value has returned after recovering from shoulder surgery and he can get full market value next offseason (without being tied to a draft pick).
The punishment needs to be harsh and PUBLIC as a deterrent to others.
CFICT, you are correct the Cardinals don’t get the signing team’s pick, but the pick the Cardinals get is worth less than the pick the signing team loses.
The value of the pick the signing team loses varies by the signing team. So the relative value of Ozuna and Castellenos varies from team to team.
Let’s use some fictional round numbers as examples:
Say Team A would lose a pick worth $3M if they sign Ozuna.
Say Team B would lose a pick worth $2M if they sign Ozuna.
Say the Cardinals would get a pick worth $1M if someone else signs Ozuna.If all three teams value Castellenos and Ozuna exactly the same at $15M.
Team A can offer Castellenos $15M and Ozuna $12M.
Team B can offer Castellenos $15M and Ozuna $13M.
The Cardinals cannot outbid either Team A or Team B by offering Castellenos $15M-$16M or the Cardinals can outbid Team A or Team B by offering Ozuna $13M-$14M.So by resigning Ozuna the Cardinals save more than the value of the pick they lose if someone else signs him and they don’t risk Ozuna waiting until after the draft to sign (and not getting the compensation pick).
I don’t see how this trade makes any sense.
A RH Left Fielder with negative WAR?
He was DFA, so it doesn’t make sense that he would be traded away (any team that wanted him could have gotten him). The Cardinals don’t need RH OF depth.
I don’t get it!
I would prefer to send a lower profile pitcher than Hudson, but I certainly see why the Rockies would want the pitcher that throws the most groundballs in the majors.
This deal doesn’t work unless Matt Carpenter is moved.
I think (I’m an optimist) Carpenter’s contract will look very good being the firstbase man at Coors.
Arrendo’s offensive numbers probably drop at Busch, but will still be elite.
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