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I read in an article the other day that our bullpen’s ERA is worse than that of Cubs’ position players, by quite a bit, I might add
The rest of our needs are upgrades.
Unfortunately, this front office prefers to “make do” rather than seek upgrades.
@bccran – are you arguing that Voit is an upgrade over Carpenter?
Because in the outfield, yes, everybody is arguing Bader is an upgrade over Fowler and most believe O’Neill is an upgrade over Ozuna.
And if you look at who is leading Memphis in OPS – it’s O’Neill
Let’s face it, it’s time for the Cardinals to sell off. We’ve been going backwards for three years. With that in mind:
1. Trade JMart to Houston (ideally get Fredis Nova back, though probably more like Jairo Solis)
2. Trade Mikolas to the Yankees – they traded Dustin Fowler, Jorge Mateo and James Kaprelein to Oakland for Sonny Gray last year, and now are reportedly ready to ship Gray out. Plus, they were already in the market for pitching. This seems like a Justus Sheffield ask from the Cardinals, with maybe a Clint Frazier (or Miguel Andujar) + Dillon Tate get.
3. Trade Wong or Gyorko to Boston. Ask for Michael Chavis in return. Maybe wind up with Mike Shwawryn + Jalen Beeks
4. Trade Bud Norris to the highest bidder, relievers are always in demand at the trade deadline. Get one PREMIUM prospect back
5. Trade Brett Cecil + Dexter Fowler and all but $600k of their salaries to Miami for “cash” or a “player to be named later”. We will help Miami enter full-blown tank mode and improve the Cardinals by addition through subtraction.
6. DFA Greg HollandPugs – you copy what you want to quote, you press the “B-Quote” button above the posting box, you paste what you’ve copied, and then you press “B-Quote” again
Are you saying you knew it the first time, or are you taking advantage of hindsight?
Brian, I have been arguing this the past two seasons. There was one poster on here last year, I forget who, that insisted there was nothing to Carpenter only hitting leadoff, because there is no rationale for it. Like you said, I think it’s all in his head. I even argued it was in his head and pointed out he has a different approach at the plate when batting leadoff.
So, yes, I consider the front office INSANE for insisting on doing this in both 2017 and 2018.
Just like I consider them INSANE for recommitting to Fowler.
Now, if we want to talk about the Cardinals front office and their inability to learn…
Commitment to Fowler?And the club’s decision makers have recommitted to struggling right fielder Dexter Fowler
Whoever made that decision needs to be fired. What is the point of maximizing infield defense if you are going to minimize outfield defense?
I do not fault the Cardinals one bit for having tried,
I fault them for repeatedly trying and getting the same results every year, then trying it again the next year. The definition of insanity…
The Yankees are looking for pitching. I would think Mikolas would bring back some decent prospects from them (they traded Fowler, Mateo and Kaprelein for Sonny Gray last year).
Whether someone is at a low point in value, it really does not matter.
The team will be better by getting rid of Fowler, period. Wong has been at a low value for the last 3-4 years…Whether it’s Schrock or Urias, we should have someone capable of putting up Wong-like numbers next year…
I only see one team possibly interested in JMart at the deadline – Houston.
We all know what the problem was. The Cardinals insisted in trying to put Carpenter somewhere else in the lineup besides leadoff, and he can only hit leadoff.
Maybe they’ve finally learned?
nor do I think the Cardinals make a big offer.
They’ll make a big offer, it will just be about $50 million short of what he signs for…
Shildt made all the wrong moves last night. Cost us a win.
Admittedly, I did not watch last night’s game, but would you have EVER said the same thing about Matheny? I feel like I’m watching Sean Hannity gush about Trump.
Anyway, the Cardinals committed 3 errors last night. Errors cost a team an average of 0.7 runs per error. By statistical averages, that means the Cardinals gave the Cubs 2.1 runs last night, and they lost by three. Add in the compounding effect when pitchers lose faith in their defense AND have to make tons of extra pitches…
What we have more of is overrated underachieving “don’t blame me” whiners that flap off despite knowing it will be disruptive to the team. Did I mention the ME-firsters. This current team is an embarrassment.
The Cardinals should know who all those players are, they let this get out-of-hand by not immediately shipping off those players.
bccran – there is a reason coaches/managers aren’t in charge of roster construction – it usually ends in disaster. Think of a GM as a check-and-balance on a coach/manager.
Matheny was a poor tactician, and he proved to be a poor “leader of men.”
The Cardinals regressed each of the last three years. It was long past time to move on.
A Chicago take on Cardinals disfunction
Maybe it’s time the Cardinals move into the 21st century with their handling of players.
Again, I think the big issue is we are hearing of turmoil inside the Cardinals locker room three years in a row now. Each year, the leaks about such turmoil are coming earlier and earlier in the season. That needs to be addressed.
The last three years, there have been rumors of turmoil in the Cardinals locker room. Each year, it comes out earlier in the season…
…but everybody liked these signings at the time. Everybody.
No, a lot of people were not fond of the Fowler signing at the time…Namely because it was for five years and $82.5 million, and his previous best offer was three years/$33 million. Several were skeptical of his defense…
Ozuna was not a free agent signing, he was a trade.
Holland had warning signs – his dramatic fall last year. He wasn’t signed until after the start of the season…He started pitching after 10 days…
So should players be benched when their defense is not good? Or is hitting the only measure by which players should be benched?
Hmmm…To answer your question, we should just abolish one way players from the team. No more offense-only players, no more defense only players…
He makes a very interesting observation about how he sees Wong being treated differently from other players. The unanswered question is, “why?”.
Perhaps it has to do with Wong running his mouth about how he is going to be the leadoff hitter when Carpenter was in that role, or saying he deserves playing time over Gyorko because the team gave him a $25 million contract (never mind, Gyorko’s contract was bigger).
As for the projections – according to B-R, Merrifield has accumulated 2.2 WAR this year to Wong’s 1.6. It’s great Fangraph’s thinks they are going to be roughly the same going forward this year, but the fact is Merrifield’s OPS is 130 points higher. Projections are different than reality.
In terms of Goold’s assertion that Wong gets benched because of others, I don’t know. Seems like he is usually benched when he is not hitting, which is far more often than him on the bench.
