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Single, K. DP. I have learned to hate that sequence.
No double plays or Ks, and we score runs. We lost runs early on DPs. Everyone stepped up when we scored ten: no dumb mistakes, except by them.
Funny how when you don’t strike out or hit into double plays, good things happen. Ten runs, and the only mistake was an inning-ending K.
Surprised to see Miller close. Didn’t expect HR from DeJong and Edman. Bad night by Goldschmidt, Martinez, Fowler.
July 18, 2019 at 10:19 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2019-2020 #98365I don’t want to give up future pennants for the outside chance of winning one this year.
I would not even consider trading O’Neil or Martinez, either one. This seems like trying to put a tourniquet on on your leg after you slit your wrists. To accomplish what? Your problem is that you aren’t getting production from third. If you trade O’Neil, will you end up with a third baseman who can provide offense?
We really have one problem. We need to keep the defense intact. But, we keep looking at our best defenders and need more offense from them. Why is that? Very simply, we are getting zero offense from a rather weak defender at third. We need offense at third, or right, or left where our defense is lacking. But, we really aren’t getting much from anywhere.
If Goldschmidt or Carp were contributing at a 290 clip, we would be in first place in the division. No matter what trade we might make, unless it gets us production at 3B, LF, or RF, we have sacrificed something to gain nothing. Anything that results with Carp still at third and hitting 208 with an average of two Ks per game is a wasted effort. You can’t leave that big of a hole in both offense and defense at one position.
If you trade Wong, you might get a 265 hitter at 2B. But, you sacrifice defense that is ranked #1. DeJong isn’t having a good offensive year. If he were at 290, it would make a huge difference. His defense is excellent.
Either Carp hits, or we are better off giving him away for nothing. We are better with Edman. Munoz seems to leave a bit more on the table defensively. Trades seem pointless if we don’t plug that hole.
Angering loss. Two fine Flaherty starts without help. That runner left on third grates on me and has all season.
Failure to score with a runner on third and nobody out is a downer, sucks the emotion out of a team. Do something to score a run, anything.
I don’t see giving up any of them. We need too much in return, and I don’t think we can get it.
Not really. Cowboys were once beloved. Now, they have lost a lot of the fervor of the fans. I haven’t even looked at the Cowboys game in three or four years. It was so interested in being America’s team that it forgot to be our team. It’s all about profit, and offers no quality. We used to respect even the ownership and management. It’s an alien entity now: having moved from the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, to the venue in Irving which was torn down after the Arlington stadium was built. Probably fewer than 5% of DFW natives have ever been in the new stadium, even for a rock concert. Different feeling now.
Being in the playoffs is getting nowhere. There are nationals titles and everything else. Cowboys are grazing in barren pasture.
Living in DFW, I am always concerned about an attitude that I think is that of NFL owner Jerry Jones. When he first bought the Cowboys, he spent a lot of money (before the cap) building a team quickly, getting two #1 quarterbacks in the draft and supplemental draft, trading Herschel Walker for an assortment of high draft choices. The Cowboys won a title fairly quickly. Won three of four.
But, he also was one of the keys behind the installation of the salary cap. Since that time, he has talked Arlington into building him a billion dollar stadium which, I think, he gets to play in for free. He gets the income from the stadium. Ticket prices soared. Long-time ticketholders were frozen out by the sale of corporate blocks of very expensive tickets. It costs more to park than it does to see the game in most stadia. He gets the revenue. Everything is designed to get Jerry Jones maximum profit. When is the last time you saw the Cowboys in the playoffs? Don’t look for them there in the near future either.
I just don’t want the front office to become concerned with finances rather than quality of product.
Well. Let’s hope that this is more than just three games after a season of not all that much. Right now, I still want Bader if we have a lead. O’Neil is hot.
Where has this O’Neil been? He now has as many extra base hits in three games as he had had all season.
I think his point is from Julius Caesar, “the evil that men do live after them, the good is oft-interred in their bones.”
I just must admit that I am having some difficulty finding anything in the skeleton that is inherently good.. It seems that we have compromised the long-term success with some resource-draining contracts that were ill-advised. But, I am unwilling to trade prospects in order to try to find solutions.
I would rather see a long-term plan in place that values developing our players and retaining them as long as possible. I hate to see them perform elsewhere while those who we got for them underperform here. I look at the trade value list, and I don’t really want to trade anyone that is in the top twenty. I might consider trading Ozuna if I were to get the right offer. I would be willing to let Gyroko or Leone go. But, I want to keep the prospects around. I would trade Carp just to get him out of our long-term plans, even if we had to pay a part of his salary.
I really want to keep our middle (DeJong, Wong, Bader, Molina, all pitching), maybe also with our reserves at C. I want that defense available with the hope that we can develop sufficient offense from them or elsewhere. Our problem is that we have little offense from our corners. I don’t want to trade for any front line pitcher. I think we have enough. I’m not all that happy with the relievers that we bring in.
I think I’m more likely to plant the skeleton and hope that it is actually a tree that might take root. We used to generate some ready fruit…. Now, it all seems to have some inherent flaw.
Too much excitement in the ninth. Brebbia was outstanding earlier in the year. Has control problems lately.
That’s how good teams score runs: double, sacrifice, sacrifice fly. Three productive at bats. No screw ups.
O’Neil doubles again. After about four extra base hits all year, he has three in two days. Was it the early breakthrough by O’Neil that allowed us to break out?
See Carp. If you just hit the ball, good things can happen, like errors. Then, Munooz and Goldschmidt have some fun.
Little things win and lose games. Get a key hit, just one. Don’t K.
The only possible reason that I can see that the Rangers might be interested in Carp is that their third baseman is 32 and is not any better than Carp. They have a one-year deal with Cabrera who has not been a hitting star either, nor a gem in the field. He is coming off suspension after throwing a glove at the umpire. They may think they have enough hitting and power to cover Carp, and they would have at least some cover for third base. They might want Carp and a right handed hitter like Martinez since they have so much left-handed power. I would hate to give up Martinez. They might also be looking at a Wainwright, thinking they have a shot at the playoffs this year. He might give them one or two years. I wouldn’t give a starting pitcher away, or even a prospect. They have nothing that I want.
O’Neil having his best night of the year. Had four extra base hits this year. Adds two and four RBIs.
Big two-out double from O’Neil in the five spot. 2-0.
I think Martinez has improved on defense. The worst we have in the OF is Ozuna who seems lost on a lot of fly balls. No great plays in left, also weak arm. O’Neil hasn’t stepped up to show anything yet. One HR and 3 doubles in about 70 AB? Fowler is hit or miss on both offense and defense. Some good stuff. Some bad stuff.
We really have only one option, jettison Carp. The fact that he is costing money can’t be an excuse. We are losing that position whether he is here or not. We aren’t going to get a $1 million per year player out of a $14 per year contract. So. Do you just put off the inevitable? Is that what we do these days? Trade him for a vacancy.
Ozuna makes Martinez looks like Bader as an outfielder. Munoz is not a very good defender at any position. Range limits him at third. Limited at SS by range and mistakes, little errors. Range at second is limited. Wong and DeJong do cover ground.
One of the problems that we have with little-used players: BB/K ratios
6-24 Wieters
2-17 Munoz
4-30 O’Neil
1-12 EdmanMolina isn’t all that good on BB/K.
I don’t want the Cards to trade good young talent, period. I don’t trust what we are getting in trades right now. Id rather develop what we have and keep it as long as we can. I am not concerned about or pitching at all. It has been more than adequate.
I agree that dumping Carp would be difficult. At some point, we need to acknowledge our mistakes and eat the losses to keep them from destroying the future. There is nothing to keep Carp here. He makes no contribution of any kind. I have seen no evidence that he provides experienced leadership. We have to hope that if we eat a part of the contract someone who sees his team in a pennant race and needs a left-handed bat might take a chance on getting the “end of the year” type greatness that some think that Carp has. I think we eat a part of it, or we eat all of it as he remains here to be a detriment for years. Would Goldy be having his year without the example of Carp. Carp’s inability to perform at all may be an obstacle that keeps everyone on edge, needing to overperform.
We, as fans, seem to be willing to get too excited about any positive development, and it may limit our surviving players. We leapt on to the Edman bandwagon, despite the fact that he has never established himself as a great hitter. He was a good AAA hitter. He started strong. Now, he seems to be experiencing the effects of pitching that may be learning about him. We may have our hopes too high. We need a superstar to emerge from non-star talent. It might be better to hope for slightly better performance from a lot of people. One more hit per game, but with runners on base, might have put us strongly into first place. One fewer strikeouts per game with a runner on base and nobody out might have given us another run per game. Little things add up We make too many correctable mistakes.
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