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I see that Tampa uses the ‘opener’ pitcher quite frequently. The result last night points out a real deficiency in the way MLB is determining won/loss records for pitchers. The first pitcher for Tampa allowed one hit and struck out 3 in 1.2 innings of work. He left with the Rays leading 3-0. The second pitcher gave up two hits and pitched two innings. He got the win but also left with the score 3-0. Now I am sure we can show thousands of cases where a pitchers W/L record is not really indicative of his actual performances. It would appear that the requirement for a pitcher to go 5 complete innings from the beginning to get a win needs to go away – but won’t because think of all those asterisks they would have to put on the old records…..LOL
<EuroDandy wrote: Lol at Pham. In the post-game interview he was asked if he’d like to thank anyone for helping him to get to where he is today. He said yes, he could thank some people, but he just wanted to thank himself. He thanked himself for doing things like playing catch with himself by throwing balls against a wall.>
Yep, that’s Team Tommy. In love with himself and no longer a Cardinal – thankfully.
We are at 4:02 and the Nats in LA are at 7:37, both on TBS. It would be a shocker to see LA knocked out but I don’t think that is going to happen (but wish it would).
I really can’t understand all the knocks on Tommy Edman by some folks who seem to be praying for his failure. I see posts on his defense (which has been sterling) and how he can’t play RF – but he has proven he can and does. Only thing I have seen him do wrong is drop one foul ball. As for routes to the ball, he seems to snag them so who cares as long as that is the end result. He is a better 3B than Carp; played SS in the minors, played 2B when Kolten was out and I expect he will be named emergency catcher next season (LOL). Edman is here to stay so enjoy his play folks. He was one key who got us to the playoffs.
I have to admit these games are nerve racking but the most shouting at my house has been against the HPUs who seem to be inconsistent – but then they don’t have a little white box to guide them. I am one who favors an electronic strike zone and the earlier the better.
I must say that Ozuna is making a pretty good pitch for resigning. His situation does present a real problem to Mo and the FO. QO or attempt to resign or let him go FA and see what the market brings. Since he dumped Boras, his price may be slightly lower but I would think 4/40 or 3/35 might get him. Otherwise, I would advise him to not let the door hit him on the way out. But Tyler ONeil is not in any form a sub for Ozuna. I expect ONeil to be in a trade package this winter. Hopefully Bader is not with him.
GO CARDS – Take one for Jacko.
<Rats wrote: To me you cant act like a goofball all the time and then all of a sudden be real mean and serious when you take the mound>
I don’t know about mean but for serious I give you Adam Wainwright. This is a kids game so I take it you want the kids to be mean and serious as they learn how to play the game. Not much of a game if there is no fun involved. JMart can goof around all he wants as long as he keeps hitting doubles and triples and keeps us in a game. Heck, he can even play right field from time to time. I have seen him do something that I have never seen Ozuna do……..layout to catch a ball. I think every team I played on had one or more of what you call ‘goofballs’ and every one of them was a team player who kept it light and encouraging for his teammates. Some of the biggest stars were also the stuffed shirts of the bunch. Not always but most of the time there is a team clown.
Depending on the score and situation I would think they would all be available out of the bullpen; well, maybe not CMart. But I do understand the decision to walk McCann now. Swanson was 0 fer against Carlos and had been struck out previously. He was bashing against Adam but it made sense to give that ploy a try. Me? I would have used Gallegos against McCann but I guess that would have hurt CMart’s feelings and heaven forbid that we do that.
New Day. New Game. GO CARDS.
Mike schildt is a loser. Guys got no backbone>
Would you have made that same post if we had won the game? If you are going to charge a guy as having no backbone try learning how to spell his name.
PS: I don’t agree with you but I am sure that makes no difference.
<Brian Walton wrote:
Rats, did you watch the game? Jose Martinez had a pinch hit single to keep the eighth inning rally going. Ragging on him tonight has nothing to do with this game and instead is your tired agenda being repeated again and again and again. At least get mad at those who screwed up…>
Amen to that Brian. Rats gets pretty worked up when we lose. For that matter I do too but in reading over all these knee jerk reactions the one I laugh at the most goes something like this: “…..their pitcher is very good…….” “Our offense is bad…..” Could it be possible that the reason our offense is bad is because their pitcher is very good? Do ya think?
Rats, you say Martinez stinks as a closer but want him as a starter. Does that make sense? Do you notice how his uniform is all stained in the right shoulder area? That is all of that hot stuff he has slathered on to keep his shoulder area warm because it is weak. Despite his sterling record as a closer I would not mind seeing him traded this off season (which I hope is not coming sooner rather than later). His appearance and DeJong coming to bat cause the most groans at our house. My take on the game: They had great pitching. We had great pitching………..UNTIL. I like Mike Shildt but if he has one failing it is his loyalty to players regardless of circumstances. He had Gallegos warm in the pen and before he went through all that 9th inning drama, I thought he could have taken Carlos out. He had gotten two outs and a decision had to be made. Swanson had already hit the ball hard in previous at bats. But then they don’t pay us couch coaches enough to make those decisions.
Thanks for posting that Brian. I knew what the AAA salaries were and that 90K was UBER high (LOL). I think those on the 40 man rosters in the minors do get a minimum of 40K but the others are ridiculously low and no pay for Spring Training is beyond ridiculous. Plus they are tagged for clubhouse fees. They live below the level of college students and receive a lot of meals courtesy of community merchants.
ED, I also use Chrome and use the same system as you and it works every time. I have a Windows 7 PC and a Windows 8 Laptop, both with Chrome, and it works on both.
I think Waino is going Sunday so that in case he has one of his clunker games, the team has a chance to recover on Monday. But if they lose Sunday, they are guaranteed a trip back to chop chop land even if they win on Monday. I don’t object to Indian mascots but I do object to the tomahawks and chants that fans are encourage to do and I can see Ryan Helsley’s point completely.
<What’s that stat about whoever wins game 2, wins the series? It happens in NHL too.>
According to the TBS crew, the team that wins game 1 of a division playoff series wins the series 70 percent of the time (or something close to that).
<This team does not deserve to have a starter like Jack Flaherty with the absolute GARBAGE run support he gets, what a joke…>
Well I can’t totally disagree with you but how short our memories are. It was only 6 days ago that he got 9 runs of support in beating the Cubs. He allowed them none. But even Jacko said it was two pitches that made the difference and he threw both of them including a dinger to a guy that has hurt us before wearing a Reds uniform. Cards take two at Busch and move on to LA.
<Brian wrote: Goldschmidt’s defense may be the most underappreciated part of that win.>
Goldys defense is the most underappreciated part of a lot of wins. Carp/JMart/Adams were never as good as Goldy is at 1B. His ability to scoop, stretch and snag hard hit balls and throws makes him a Gold Glover in my book. Where is the competition for GG at 1B?
<rats wrote: All I can say is…….IF THAT GOOFBALL CARLOS MARTINEZ WANTS TO BE RESPECTED THEN HE SHOULD START ACTING LIKE A GROWN MAN AND A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER. CUT OUT THE STUPID GOOFY STUFF LIKE THROWING WATER, STACKING CUPS, AND COLORING HIS HAIR!!!!!>
I am far from a Carlos Martinez fan but at my age (80) I see no problem with Carlos’ antics and he has lots of guys who do the same or worse in MLB – hotfoots, cups on head, throwing sunflower seeds at guys on mike, etc. Baseball would be a pretty stiff and uninteresting game if we took the personalities away from it. Carlos off field charities speak to his generosity with his time. BTW, I also like JMart who is probably even goofier than Carlos. He keeps things light and, despite not being liked by some fans, he has times where his doubles and triples make the difference in a game. So while I like most of your posts, lets just agree to disagree with this one. Now here is one for you to comment on…………..
The tomahawk chop and war chant tend to surprise me and p-ss me off at the same time. In this day of age of political correctness I don’t dispute the right to have Indian mascots and such but the lack of any significant amount of people complaining about it is the thing that surprises me. Cleveland and Washington with their Indian mascots also seem to survive but Washington has received a lot of bad press. I tip my cap to the owner telling folks to buzz off when they come at him to change things up.
<Brian Walton wrote:
Yes, it is standard practice to bring extra players along. That way, they are there and ready for the next game if injury replacements are needed. >
Thanks Brian. I knew that the players were readily available but do not recall seeing them in the dugout before. At one time and probably still, MLB had rules as to who could be in the dugout. Anyway – classy move to have them with the rest of the team.
I don’t know if it is standard practice but I think it is a class act for the Cards to bring all the guys who contributed in September to Atlanta despite them not making the roster for the NLDS. I guess they can be available for injury replacement but any injuries would not be eligible for the NLCS if we make it that far. I saw Ravelo, Knizner, and several others in the dugout. Wonder if Gant also made the trip.
Bad hop??? He stayed back and should have made the play. He didn’t charge it, which is fine, but he has to make that routine play. Hence the error ruling. Wong made it worse…>
Seems as if the scorer did not agree in the long run – one error to DeJong for bouncing the ball to Wong. Even the TBS guys thought it was a hit.
No idea of what the score will be.
ONeil will be traded this off season. Just too many Ks.
Ravelo needs to work on another position this off season and in ST. We need his bat but Goldy doesn’t sit much.
Wieters? Will he get bigger bucks than Cards will offer or will Cards even make an offer?
Somewhat surprised that Gant did not make the roster but his last outings were not the best. Still he may be on the NLCS roster if we go that far – he should be rested by then.
I have looked high and low for the 25 man rosters for this playoff series and can not find anything. I have seen rumors about Gant not making it (but he was throwing to Kolten Wong on Wednesday), and Arozarena and Ravelo making the playoff squad. Is the roster listed anywhere?
Tommy Pham. Noticed last night that Tommy has a tat on his left arm that reads “Believe in Yourself”. That is an admirable belief; however, in Tommy’s case all it means is Tommy believes in Team Tommy and none other. I saw him during his time in Springfield and they practically needed an ambulance on call for all of the injuries he had. Tommy always had a chip on his shoulder and was quick to publicize his grievances. To me, he is not a team player. At least he was not when with the Cardinals. He shot off his mouth far too much. I am happy to see he has found a new team because I just never thought the Cardinals were the team for him.
<SoonerinNC wrote: I was suprised to see Hader in the 8th. He hasn’t got out of the 9th lately. A two inning save seemed like a long shot to me. Even the games he has saved lately he got hit pretty hard.>
I was also surprised. Hader has not been very successful lately and has blown more than his fair share of saves. I will be happy to not have to see Counsell’s game of using openers and relying on Hader to wrap it up. Me thinks the Brewers beer can has a leak in it. But I don’t think the Nats will touch the Dodgers either. Strasburg based on 5 days rest cannot pitch until Game 3 but that will be in Washington. He sure looked good last night. I like that the Cards beat both Strasburg and Sherzer.
Just how many saves did Hader blow this season? He looked pretty wild last night and when he did get one across the plate they looked like meatballs to the batters. You can blame the loss on the RF-Grisham but actually Hader is the one who has let the team down consistently in the past few games – the most important of the season.October 1, 2019 at 6:49 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2019 #109636
Minuteman, are you aware that Lindor is younger than both Wong and DeJong? We would not be getting older by acquiring him. Just getting better.>
We know exactly what we have in Wong and DeJong. Wong is now living up to what we hoped and DeJong is well on his way but does have some dead spots in his hitting. But I am not one who ‘assumes’ anything on trades and I am not in favor of dumping a known quantity for a ‘hopefully good’ quantity. How many big trades in MLB actually work out – especially when big bucks are involved. My opinion – Not many.
Brian, absolutely right – Tampa and Marlins probably have the worst attendance in MLB. And smallest fan base in a heavily populated area. But a lot of the population leaves when the their home team does or they follow them on TV from their Florida homes. Marlins sold off their team and the other has a good team this year and a poor facility but that is not what holds down attendance. Pham hit it on the head with Tampa — “What fan base?”
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I kind of figured that it might be ONeil who is out for this series as he hasn’t shown my batting power lately.
But on second thought, without Wacha, you have an extra slot if you choose not to take another reliever – hence, Randy Aroz.
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