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O’Neill and Bader have never been ranked anywhere near that high.
O’Neill and Bader both peaked around 90. And how high they were ranked as prospects does not matter, it’s how well they perform in the majors.
Bader – somehow injured his forearm.
This is ridiculous. You act like no players other than Bader have ever been injured before.
Bader’s defense is overrated. Can’t go back well, so he plays deep. Wasn’t even close to earning GG last season.
Bader’s defense gives him a FLOOR of a 3 WAR player. During 2019, when he had a .680 OPS, he put up 2.3 bWAR, or roughly 3.4 WAR/600
In 2018 & 2020, when he put up OPS of .756 & .779, he was worth nearly 5 bWAR/600.
Your hatred of Bader skews your opinion of his value.
As for not being able to go back to the wall, that was a comment he made to Jim Edmonds, who was an elite center fielder as well. Edmonds made his name by crashing into walls, Bader makes his by covering ground. One is not better than the other. As long as Bader can cover ground, he’s elite.
As for Gold Gloves, that is heavily influenced by other factors. Look at Outs Above Average, where they factor in positioning, distance, exit velocity of the ball, probability of a hit, etc. Bader is elite.
He might like the idea of swinging for the fences a little more often. At least then, we don’t have to worry about his sprint speed on the bases.
You cannot rely on the “big two” to carry you everyday.
Goldschmidt is not carrying the team. He has a .568 OPS, which is barely better than DeJong’s .548
Please stop the personal attacks.
Show some fortitude willie, by restraining yourself from piling on.
Okay, then how about not telling other people what to do.
All these were written by the same person. Maybe lead by example?
Dean entered the game with a .000 Batting Average and .125 OPS. He left the game with a .200 Batting Average and .773 OPS.
Small Sample Size, folks.
Carlson got a single today. His BA went up 35 points and his OPS went up 42 points.
It’s early people, relax.
@bccran – this is the third time I’ve seen this:
Of Mo’s Fab 5, we now have a youngster who is hurt, one that didn’t make the club,
So, in your opinion, baseball players never get hurt? Didn’t Fernando Tatis get hurt yesterday?
How many outfielders is a major league team supposed to carry on the 26 man roster? Which position players would you have cut so you can carry a fifth outfielder?
You wanna harp on batting averages after five games? Fine. I assume when you played baseball, you never had a slump, correct? I assume you always went 3-4 with at least one home run, correct?
Finally, we got rid of one veteran outfielder, to make room for the young outfielders. His OPS is .400.
@bccran – What’s your point?
After today, two of the top 4 hitters on the team are outfielders. Spring Training Stats
It’s bad that in a professional sport, players more deserving of a roster spot don’t get it due to non-performance related factors.
I can’t think of one time that it’s worked out for the Cardinals to keep a player in the last year of his contract when he performed miserably in spring training. But I have a rather short term memory.
Nice to see Nogowski make it. I hope they give him AB’s instead of Carpenter.
Yes, I think they need to run him through waivers. He hasn’t earned a spot on the club.
And I am assuming they are going to keep Carpenter until June, as they do with most players on contracts that they know they should cut after spring training.
I don’t think you can have two dead bats on the bench.
Spring training lines:
Carpenter: .030/.200/.061
Sosa: .136/.259/.182I am hoping they cut Carpenter sooner rather than later. Sosa should not make the team based on that performance.
A lot of angst about DeJong’s performance, but Arenado’s was nearly as bad:
DeJong: .209/.292/.279
Arenado: .222/.308/.289The deadline is artificial. Most of those agreements are made years in advance.
But I agree, it doesn’t seem the Cardinals have done very well in the Latin American market.
Well, they traded Arozarena before he contributed to the Cardinals, and Oviedo and Nunez haven’t contributed to the major league club yet. So, I can’t really say they have done well with Cuban ballplayers.
2019 was Bader’s age 24 season and he hit .205. Wong hit .262 in his age 24 season. At age 26 he hit .285. Let’s see how close Bader comes to that in his age 26 season.
I would suggest using OBP or OPS numbers instead of batting average.
I am matching their first four seasons in the majors, not their ages. Paul DeJong and Bader came up through the minors together, and generally performed about the same levels, but DeJong won a starting job at the major league level sooner, because he had nobody blocking him.
Defense or not, some of us don’t think a career .234 BA and .322 OBP is very impressive. And the last “full season” he played in 2019 his BA was .205 and his OBP was .314.
You look at OBP, not BA. Also, Bader’s last 3 seasons, he has a 97WRC+, which is just 3% below average.
Bader has such a high floor, because his defense is exceptional. And as they say, defense doesn’t go in slumps.
