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but he’s got more limited upside due to the less than great fastball.
Do you know why Franklin had more innings pitched? The Cardinals had Fajardo pitch as a reliever for three games. Franklin also had one more game at both A+ and AA.
Do you know which pitcher pitched more innings per game? It wasn’t Franklin.
I give the edge to the guy who is two years younger, because I believe that in two years, his fastball will be better than it is today and he will likely have another pitch. Fajardo is 6’3 and 181 lbs. I have to believe they are working with him on adding to his strength and body frame, in addition to pitches.
Franklin has exceeded my expectations so far, going from two pitches to four pitches in one year. And if you believe BA, he has six “pitch shapes,” and more than one pitch that is phenomenal. But if he has truly phenomenal stuff, and Fajardo is truly underwhelming, their stat lines on the same team playing the same competition wouldn’t be comparable.
At this juncture, I give the edge to Fajardo, who I believe will have a greater career WAR than Franklin.
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but i dont know what the mizzs flaws that kept him that low. Maybe he couldnt throw strikes, i dont know, dont follow brewers.
His flaw was that he was at a junior college, not a 4-year college.
If you read the scouting reports on him at the time, they were all excellent in terms of his stuff.
I think a better example of not being able to pick future aces is Tarik Skubal, who was a 9th round selection.
I would like to see Dobbins as the 5th starter, with Liberatore a multi-inning reliever in the bullpen. Maybe a piggyback starter with Dobbins to keep him stretched out.
The only way I see the Cardinals acquiring a pitcher this year is if the new CBA forces them to spend money.
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Franklin was talked about quite a bit on the Wednesdays With Walton and Reis podcast this morning, based on this BA article:
Yeah, BA loves Franklin. But if his pitches were so incredible, why can’t he outperform a guy who is two years younger and doesn’t have a great fastball?
They also think Josh Baez is a great defender in the outfield.
#7 – Sebastian dos Santos
This is probably where I would vote for Fajardo, but I am giving the edge to the position player.
I have him ahead of Condon because they are the same age, at the same level and SS is a more premium position than CF, though both are high on the defensive spectrum.
He kind of already has been a contributor:
.788 OPS (119 OPS+) in 108 PAs.
He had a .278 OBP and three of his seven home runs came in his first game. He has immense power, but I question whether he will grow into the OBP portion of the stat line.
Baseball Owners Actually Make Money!!!
“A lot of my friends were buying teams, and I realized they’re making money. They’re making more money than I’m making in private equity,” Rubenstein told Baltimore Baseball.
David Rubenstein is the owner of the Baltimore Orioles.
I can’t vote for Tanner Franklin at this point, because Yhoiker Fajardo is two years younger and produced essentially the same stat line (actually slightly better) at both High A and AA.
Tanner Franklin – 22 Years Old
A+ – 72.2 IP; 4.21 ERA; 1.25 WHIP; 91K/32BB; .218 BAA
AA – 32.1 IP; 3.34 ERA; 1.30 WHIP; 42K/13BB; .246 BAAYhoiker Fajardo – 20 Years Old
A+ – 76.1 IP; 4.01 ERA; 1.34 WHIP; 106K/26BB; .256 BAA
AA – 25.0 IP; 3.24 ERA; 1.32 WHIP; 24K/7BB; .268 BAANow, Franklin sits 94-98 mph with his fastball, and has added two pitches this year, giving him a total of four. Fajardo sits 93-95 mph and only has three pitches. But Fajardo is two years younger, pitching at the same levels, with comparable results. I have to give the edge to Fajardo, who is not my #5.
Josh Baez has too much swing-and-miss for me to believe he will be a valuable contributor at the major league level. Add in questions about his defense, and I just can’t vote for him here. I understand the Cardinals will give him every opportunity for multiple years.
Lacking a clear choice at #5, I will back Bob’s choice for Sebastian dos Santos at #5.
I think Walker was an OK minor league third baseman, was shifted to outfield in AA and then beamed up to MLB before he learned the new position.
Walker was a terrible 3B. But yes, he should not have been learning how to play the outfield on a major-league roster.
you’re not allowed to trade any top 50 prospects.
This is a ridiculous restriction. Teams may have 3-5 prospects on a no-trade list, but not 50. You are essentially saying no trades, free agents only.
October 10, 2026 at 9:35 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2024-2026 #320857How about a Ivan Herrera for Jordan Westburg trade? Who says no first? Who should say no?
Both sides should say no. Westburg is a negative defender at third coming off elbow surgery.
Baltimore would most likely want pitching in return.
Walker and Liberatore for Westburg and Bradish.
This would likely be a hard no from Baltimore.
#4 – Bernal
#3 Bernal
I am going to go with the 22 year-old Bernal over the 26 year-old Mathews.
I think it’s more likely that Bernal outproduces Mathews over the course of their respective careers.
Cardinals can trade Pages this year and Crooks next year.
Defensively, Church is fine. Offensively, though, he was 11% below league average. That is a major improvement over Scott, but wouldn’t be starting numbers on a playoff club. Church deserves to be on the team, but seems like a good fourth or fifth outfielder
I don’t know why people on this board are so up-in-arms over Church’s offensive production. It was his first season in the league, and he posted a .664 OPS.
Burleson’s first season? A .690 OPS.
September 13, 2026 at 7:26 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2024-2026 #318772I don’t think the Cardinals are ever going back to previous levels of spending. DeWitt has a new profit-maximization strategy, and it is all about the welfare.
September 13, 2026 at 7:25 am in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #149 thread – Saturday, Sept. 12 vs. Chicago White Sox #318771This season can’t get over fast enough. Bring on the lockout.
LOL. You’ve been clamoring for a rebuild for years. The Cardinals finally enter one, and you want it over with.
New Angels Owner Stan Kroenke Has Already Made Nearly $20 Billion On His Sports Teams
I think it’s funny that people think billionaires:
1) Don’t try to make money off their investments
2) Don’t understand basic finance
3) Don’t understand how to run a business profitablyI’ll give an example that was widely reported last year:
“The Pittsburgh Pirates, according to information received by the players union and confirmed by several owners, are one of the most profitable teams in all of baseball, stashing a huge chunk of their revenue sharing monies instead of investing in their team year after year,” Nightengale wrote.
I wouldn’t be surprised if many teams have a break even operating profit year to year with some gaining a little and some losing a little. But when the team gets sold, the absurd increase in valuation brings a huge windfall to the owner.
Business valuations are based on cash flow.
September 6, 2026 at 5:30 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #144 thread –Sunday, Sept. 6 at Colorado Rockies #318253Had they kept May, they might have really been a threat to at least challenge some of the playoff teams although trading May was still the right thing to do.
May had a 4.38 ERA with the Cardinals, and has a 6.17 ERA with the Brewers.
Not sure how keeping him would have helped.
August 15, 2026 at 7:38 am in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #122 thread – Friday, August 14 at Chicago Cubs #316165Winns defense is so good I am okay with him hitting as long as it stays above an 80ish wRC+.
Your data backs up my thoughts though that 3B and CF are absolute holes in the roster. T
Why does a 4th year SS get a pass, but a 1st year CF not?
And CF was weighed down by them rolling with VSII the first few months.
They could add a poverty abatement surcharge on the dogs a drinks. The fans would understand.
Yes, they will probably increase season ticket prices another 5-13% this year, as what the DeWitt’s are discovering is that the key to profit maximization for billionaires is not “fans in the stands”, but rather how much welfare you can receive from your fellow owners and the tax-paying minions.
Did the Cardinals receive what was once termed as either, “an undisclosed amount of cash” or “cash considerations” during today’s flurry of activity? I mean, let’s face facts…Cash is king and is always the primary consideration simply because you can buy all kinds of stuff with it.
Well, they did save more than $7 million in 2026 payroll obligations, and another $7 million projected for next year, with Noot’s salary now off the books.
Finally he asks will we ever see Revenue sharing in baseball. God shakes his head and says No, not in MY lifetime…
There is already revenue sharing in baseball. That’s why teams like the A’s, Marlins and Rays don’t spend to market their product, because they are supported by the other teams that do.
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