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Liberatore, Oviedo, Thompson, and Rondon
are all good prospects. They’ll back up an experienced rotation of Flaherty, Hudson, Kim, Mikolas, and Reyes next season.
Should be fine.
So, we needed a veteran backup catcher for Yadi. We needed a veteran backup outfielder.
But it’s okay to have rookie backup pitchers? When Hudson, Mikolas and Reyes all have extensive injury histories (and Flaherty has missed two months)? When Reyes has absurd walk rates? When the lowest ERA among the MiLB players is Rondon’s 4.92 and the lowest WHIP is Liberatore’s 1.30?
I’ve looked it up, jj. And it says it’s not adjusted for field position.
You can filter to just look at center fielders (for example), then sort in descending order by OPS+
Big offensive hole at middle infield, and not enough pop in the OF. I complained ad nauseam in the off season about an unproven outfield of O’Neill, Bader, and Carlson. Do to injuries and other factors, this outfield has a total of 39 home runs this “season to date”. That’s an average of 13 per outfielder. Almost 70% of the way through the season. That speaks for itself.
Team Leaders in OBP (more than 100 PAs):
1. O’Neill – .346
2. Bader – .341
3. Carlson – .340
4. Goldschmidt – .333
5. Carpenter – .330
6. Sosa – .328
7. Arenado – .318
8. Knizner – .315
9. Edman – .300
10. Molina – .296
11. DeJong – .291
Team Leaders in Slugging % (more than 100 PAs)
1. O’Neill – .518
2. Arenado – .496
3. Bader – .468
4. Goldschmidt – .446
5. Carlson – .421
6. DeJong – .387
7. Edman – .376
8. Molina – .373
9. Sosa – .353
10. Carpenter – .323
11. Knizner – .276
I don’t see how the offense is the outfield’s fault, when they are the three top performers in on base percentage and three of the top five in slugging percentage.
For years, the Cardinals said they would just trade pitching whenever they needed star hitters.
That’s simply wrong, LA. Look at all the pitching the Cardinals have traded to secure position players
Reading comprehension helps.August 5, 2021 at 10:14 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 108 thread – Thursday, August 5 vs. Braves #168999
LOLAugust 5, 2021 at 10:03 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 108 thread – Thursday, August 5 vs. Braves #168988
Everyone saying Reyes should be in the rotation next year? No.August 5, 2021 at 10:02 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 108 thread – Thursday, August 5 vs. Braves #168987
Yes. For years, the Cardinals said they would just trade pitching whenever they needed star hitters. They found that model is very inefficient, which appears why they are going down the path of selecting hitters very high in the draft, and why the pitching pipeline isn’t as robust as it once was.
Especially when you have to play your second baseman in right field.
They don’t HAVE to play Edman in right field. His .673 OPS isn’t forcing him into the lineup. He’s been playing the outfield for three years, even when we had better outfielders on the bench.
This is strictly Shildt’s preference for Tommy.August 5, 2021 at 9:40 am in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 107 thread – Wednesday August 4 vs. Braves #168916
Last offseason I pleaded for the Cardinals to sign Adam Duvall. He has 23HR’s and 71 RBI’s and his making a grand total of $2M. Sigh….
1. That was $1.5 million more than the Cardinals were willing to pay
2. If he was on the Cardinals, he would be taking at bats away from O’Neill or Bader, just like Fowler took bats away last year. Shildt can’t help himself.August 4, 2021 at 10:47 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 107 thread – Wednesday August 4 vs. Braves #168881
Do you know what kind of odds Atlanta has of winning this game tonight? About the same as Harrison Bader has of whacking 4 dingers this evening. For this game you bet the ranch…the cattle….the furnishings….all of your vehicles….you empty out your savings, checking and money market accounts ….you sell off your valuables and whipe out your 401K and all retirement accounts…..you borrow as much as you can from anyone who trusts you…..and you plop it all down on the St. Louis Cardinals and J.A. Happ to win this game tonight. And you never break even the slightest sweat or raise your blood pressure even one notch, as you know you have this in the bag.
Pugs – I have figured out the homeless crisis in the US.
What Cardinal infielders have been playing outfield over the past 5-10 years?
Off the top of my head – Adams, Wong & Edman.
Also, you’d better be sure about that rookie catcher,
There are no sureties in the sport. The most difficult jump is from AAA to MLB. If you never give someone a chance, you will never know. And right now, it doesn’t matter who is Yadi’s backup, because they only see the field in double headers, blowouts and when Yadi is injured. That said, you develop your farm system so they can become your future starters. If you never give them a chance, you might as well trade them all away.
But if not, I prefer an experienced catcher at backup
That is your preference. My preference would be to give the young guys a chance than to get career backups every year.August 3, 2021 at 11:39 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2021 #168674
For 4th OF/left-handed bench bats it seems we will have at least four of our own players contending for that job:
– Lars Nootbaar
– Justin Williams
– Conner Capel
– Alec Burleson
Williams will be out of options, so he is going to need a monster spring training or he will be traded.
Or not having enough depth in the outfield, so you have to play your supposed starting second baseman out there.
The Cardinals have been doing this the last 5-10 years, even when we had outfielders who should have been out there instead of infielders.
Or having a rookie backing up your aging catcher instead of a proven vet who also can help you off the bench in the later innings.
I don’t get this. How are your minor leaguers ever supposed to become starters if you continually want to bring in vets to block them from playing games?August 3, 2021 at 11:23 am in reply to: Minor League Game Thread – Week of July 26-August 1 #168671
Voit: .297/.372/.477 with 20 doubles, 5 triples (?!?!?!) and 19 HR
Baker: .230/.308/.502 with 14 doubles and 21 HR (so far)
So, Voit had better contact skills and running (evidently). Baker has more HR power.August 2, 2021 at 8:19 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2021 #168639
f they are going to go with only internals their payroll will be abnormally low. I would look for an outside acquisition or two.
I think payroll is going to be lowered because they have to forecast based on the pandemic and vaccination rates. If they stick to basing payroll on attendance, it will be lower.
The only outside acquisitions I see them doing are pitchers. One starting pitcher, 1-2 relievers.
If Gorman’s not ready to start the season, they will start with Edman at 2B and probably Robertson on the bench. When Gorman is ready, Robertson will likely get optioned.August 2, 2021 at 8:12 pm in reply to: Minor League Game Thread – Week of July 26-August 1 #168638
But surely Baker, Gorman, Burleson, and even Yepez could fill that role at least part of the time.
Baker has a .308 OBP in AA. I wouldn’t be penciling him in for the big leagues any time soon.August 1, 2021 at 8:10 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2021 #168572
LOL. My bad.August 1, 2021 at 5:22 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2021 #168562
So middle infield, a DH, a SP or two and a bullpen piece or two would be where that money should go.
Our 2B next year will likely be Gorman. We will have four shortstops on the roster (DeJong, Sosa, Edman & Robertson). Our DH will probably be Yepez, and otherwise will be used to get people like Knizner and Williams (assuming he makes it out of camp with the Cardinals) some at bats.
Position-wise, it seems the only thing unsettled is our fourth outfielder.
Pitching-wise, we need to replace Wainwright, Kim and Carlos Martinez in the starting pitcher depth. And who knows if Mikolas will pitch. I do expect Wainwright to sign another year. Kim may do so as well, but right now, they are free agents.
Relief pitching – I would rather see them pick up somebody like Tony Watson in the offseason at a low price than do waiver claims during the year or trade for him at the deadline. LOL
On the VEB game thread yesterday, they reached out to Jeff Jones and he reached out to the Cardinals. The response he got was Williams has a “hamstring issue.”
No reason was given as to why he has not been placed on the IL.
Bader is a career 3.7 WAR/600 player. That is decidedly above average.
And the only reason he cooled off last year was Shildt benched him for two weeks in favor of a player who had an OPS .500 points less than Bader’s at the time he was benched. That will screw with anybody.July 27, 2021 at 9:18 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 101 thread – Tuesday, July 27 at Indians #168038
I don’t think anyone would have picked Bader as our best hitter for any month.
Last August, he had a .925 OPS, but then was benched for two weeks.July 27, 2021 at 8:45 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 101 thread – Tuesday, July 27 at Indians #167997
Bader is on fire. Shildt may wanna think about moving him up in the line up.
Yes, Bader is on fire. This is the point in the season where Shildt looks for an outfielder with a .400 OPS so he can bench Bader for two weeks and cool him off.July 26, 2021 at 1:09 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 100 thread – Sunday, July 25 at Reds #167857
About time to see a stat that actually has some true value, meaning, and gives an accurate picture.
Yes!!! Because we all know singles are infinitely more valuable than walks, even though they both result in a player on first base with no out recorded.
We also know that singles are just as valuable as homeruns, even though homeruns result in the player scoring.
You win by hits!!! Not runs scored!!!
Yes, I used MLB Draft tracker, which had them rounded. Also transposed the 5 & 7 in Holgate’s bonus amount. The $55k is correct.