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Gscott, I dont understand that line of thinking. While there would be some small financial advantages for him being on the 40 man roster I dont understand what the urgency is for him to be put on the 40 man roster next winter. If he is not, he might get chosen in the rule 5 draft. For him, that actually might be a better outcome. Or he might not get chosen. Either way I dont see the urgency from his perspective.
Note: I am not picking on you personally gscott. This is more of a general statement about people thinking like this not only about Perez but about others as well.
I am highly sceptical of proje tions that look at individual players that dont aggregate to the team level. Maybe I just dont understand the concept. I still look at their rate stats but not so much at any counting stats.
One thing is clear is ghat baseballHQ does not like projecting saves. The total for all Cardinals is 26. Last year it appears it was just 17.
In the end the Cards traded Garcia, Martinez, Arozarena and Borgus for $$, Liberatore Gonzalez and Dean. I’ll take it because I am high on Liberatore.
I understand the team can not comment too much on injuries but can the player update you? Or tbeir family (there are usually a large number of players that have family members at these events – though probably less likely if the player isnt participating due to injury) I seldom see where the player is asked. Is this an unwritten rule that reporters dont ask the players directly? Or do they ask and the players also refuse to comment?
I would guess a broken hamate bone really cut into Montero’s exit velo. In fact, being league avg should be seen as encouraging.
Not a well edited list if nothing else. They have a couple of guys with 2019 ETA’s who didnt play in the majors last year. They list Gingrey with a 2020 ETA even though he has only pitched a couple of minor league innings in his career and they say he had a second TJ. I would also question the 2023 ETA of Herrera as being overly pessimistic.
I am.not sure the Rox haven’t backed themselves into a corner where they almost have to trade Arenado. You sure dont want him back as a malcontent.
Not sure why we are talking about 6-8 WAR players. Arenado is 2 years removed from that level in bwar and getting older and he has never reached that level of fwar.
So Cards-Rox have been talking for 4-5 and just now talked names? Seems hard to believe.
Hudson, Knizner, and Carpenter seems high but I guess it depends on how you value those players.
I feel like we have moved back to the 1990’s when most fans were (and even reporters) were unaware how important contracts were to player value. I like Arenado but I don’t see much excess value in that contract.
Even after the MLB directive, Luhnow did not forward it to his people or brief them. It is in the report.
So does that show that Luhnow knew they were cheating, he was lazy or lax with regard to this subject, or he was overconfident they weren’t cheating? In any case it warrents punishment but if that is all probably less than he revieved in my opinion.
I doubt the players and coaches didn’t know of the mlb edict regardless. Don’t they watch SportsCenter?
Some general thoughts.
I have no idea why the Rox signed Arenado only to trade him before the contract kicks in.
Taking on Arenado’s full contract without them taking back salary puts the Cardinals into tax territory. I dont see that as a reality.
Arenado’s contract is full market value. Not much excess value there. The Cards could have made themselves just as good by spending $34 million elsewhere and not giving up talent.
The Cardinals probably need to give up more than the Yankees did but not much more.
The logic that because Crane told Luhnow to make sure the team was not breaking the rules means that he must have known that they were breaking the rules as extremely faulty.
Well suspicion just doesn’t seem plausible. Either he knew or he didnt. Not sure how he would simply have “suspicion”.
The best comp trade I have seen was the Yankees trade of Stanton. Stanton was coming off an MVP year with a 7.3 fwar. (Numbers Arenado has never reached). Arenado has shown to be more consistent but Stanton had shown higher upside. Arenado has a 2 yr opt out. Stanton’s was 3 years away at the time of the trade. In value I would say they were very similar.
What did the Marlins get in return. First they took back $21 million in salary for 2 years of a 2 war or less player. (Very similar in value to Fowler with slightly less salary). They got the Yankees #10 prospect and a non top 30 prospect.
In addition the Marlins agreed to pay $30 million if Stanton didn’t opt out.
What would a similar Cardinal pkg look like? I would say Fowler, Williams and maybe Elledge. Much less than what I have seen thrown around.
Any ideas whether Liberatore will show up at instructs? My guess is they parade him at winter warm up first!
