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I can see the PTBNL being contingent on how well Fowler plays for the Angels.
Unranked flier if he performs poorly, somebody ranked outside of Top 10 in their farm if he performs well (personally, I would grab one of their shortstops)
The Angels fans were NOT happy they got Fowler last night. Even after they found out they are only paying $1.75 million.
Basically said a AAA player is worth more at 1/3 the cost
Ok. How about Flaherty and Bader for Benentendi and Ottavino and cash?
No, the Cardinals aren’t trading Flaherty. And Bader’s floor is 3 WAR due to his defense.
I could live with the outfield and give them all playing time.
But I would like to see them bring back Ozuna as a third big bat. Of course, then I would be hoping we get the DH this year.
The #STLCards will pay the bulk of Dexter Fowler's $14 million contract and the #Angels will send a player to be named later or cash.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) February 5, 2021
The #Angels were looking for a corner outfielder all winter, and talks heated up with the #STLCards after the Nolan Arenado trade.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) February 5, 2021
Cardinals are paying a majority of Fowler’s salary, so not much savings…really just clearing roster space
I think there’s a possibility that we see more “piggyback” games where “starters” go 3-4 innings and another starting pitcher takes over.
I’ve been thinking the Cardinals should do this for years, with their pitching depth – Just to keep everyone stretched out. For instance, Wainright is lucky to go 6 innings, so put him and Reyes (as an example) together. One pitches 5 innings, the other 4.
A source close to the negotiation informed Pio Deportes that Marcell Ozuna aspires to a contract of 4 or more years and from US$22 to US$25 million per season.
Tampa Bay Rays, Atlanta Braves and Minnesota Twins are in negotiations with the Dominican. #PioDeportes pic.twitter.com/L3pO8P0nP8
— PIO DEPORTES (@piodeportes) February 2, 2021
Yes, since the Cardinals aren’t spending anything on Arenado, the ideal situation would be to bring back Yadi, Wong & Ozuna (if there is a DH). I would have to think the Cardinals would be WS favorites at that point.
It is true the Cards aren’t paying him in 2021 but they will owe him $20M later.
The Rockies will be giving the Cardinals that $20 million to pay him, so yes, him plying for the Cardinals this year is free to the Cardinals.
Is it possible that they could end up with Arenado, Wainwright, Molina, and sign Ozuna all for Kolton Wong’s money?
No
Wong was due $12.5 million. Wainwright signed for $8 million.
Are the Rockies really gonna pay for both Arenado and Ozuna with the extra $15 million?
Yes, the Cardinals should bring back Ozuna if we have a DH this year
Also is the $20m that is deferred a conditional payment?
So, the $20 million is paid to the Cardinals if Arenado does not opt out, and paid directly to Arenado if he does opt out.
I would argue they took a horrible situation and made it worse or in the best case scenario didn’t improve it. And the worst part for them is that they created the horrible situation in the first place. If Arenado’s contract is indeed $40m-$50M underwater, whose fault is that? And who created or allowed the relationship between the front office and Arenado to become so toxic?
They made a bunch of ill-advised free agent moves, like Ian Desmond and their high-priced relievers. Then, they refused to spend more.
It wasn’t the Arenado deal by itself that made it a toxic situation. It was their failures in free agency. A situation we know all too well (see Fowler, Cecil, etc)
