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People always propose a basket of spare parts instead of the prospect the other team wants. They play in Denver, they want a slugging prospect. Probably also a pitching prospect who keeps it low in the zone.
KA-BOOM!
Names possibly going to Rockies include LHP Austin Gomber, 1B Luken Baker, OF Jhon Torres. Return also might include RHP Jake Woodford or RHP Angel Rondón. Exact package not confirmed. https://t.co/QJaMyyxLwP
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 30, 2021
Arenado not giving up opt out nor no-trade clause in deal to #Cardinals according to sources
— Jim Bowden⚾️🏈 (@JimBowdenGM) January 30, 2021
Deal unlikely to be official tonight and maybe even not this weekend. Arenado will need to formally waive his no-trade clause and his opt-out after 2021 also must be addressed. Approvals from MLB and union necessary as well, as reported in initial tweet. https://t.co/xuCNkaD5kq
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 30, 2021
Nigel, the Cards already had two 40-man openings, which I figured were for Yadi and the DH. Now they may have another.
Whoa. I know jj is high on Gomber but I would not miss any of the guys who are listed in Rosenthal’s possibles. If that’s the guys that outfit the trade, then consider me happy. Even if Arenado is simply very good instead of elite going forward, this could be a steal for the Cards.
Wow. I did not think the Cardinals would really pull this off. And the trade package going back to Colorado, if it is close to what is reported, seems like a win for the Cardinals.
Now, they also have a way of keeping Carpenter’s option from vesting.
— Jack Flaherty (@jflare_) January 30, 2021
Looks like they got him. Wow. I’m in shock. Gotta give it up for the Cardinals. This is a huge big balls move.
For perspective, the three #stlcards prospects rumored to be in the Arenado trade, as in the new 2021 rankings by The Cardinal Nation:
10. Angel Rondon
13. Jhon Torres
23. Luken Bakerhttps://t.co/ZybInhA3xg pic.twitter.com/fhVhIifdye— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) January 30, 2021
Oh man, if this is true, it blows my mind. I’ve been wanting this for a long while, I didn’t think the Cardinals management had it in them. If it’s true, the central is ours to lose, and with just a little luck, we can dream even higher
We are getting $50 million from the Rockies. Mo needs to thank Walt for the lessons.
This is called going all in. We got Arenado for Realamuto’s deal. I was lamenting how affordable the market is, but Mo got his man at market price.Brilliant. He has now done it twice.
Cards taking a big gamble here…
If deal between Rockies and Cardinals is finalized, Arenado will keep his opt out after 2021, get an additional opt out after 2022 and retain his full no-trade clause, sources tell @TheAthletic.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 30, 2021
Heck of a time for the site to crash out.
BW, if the rumored players are what we give up (Torres, Baker, Rondon/Woodford, Gomber), I don’t think it’s that huge of a gamble. It’s hard to imagine Arenado walking after 2021 and even if he does after 2022, the Cards likely got the two best years he’s gonna have going forward and would then have a big pile of money to spend again. If Gorman is somehow part of the deal, I would agree that the gamble is bigger. Otherwise, we may have traded two guys who never make the big leagues for us and two back end starters that we have much better alternates already nearing St Louis (talking about Oviedo and Liberatore/Thompson).
I wanted to bring this over here cause it’s completely cracking me up. How did you know, mspaid?
January 25, 2021 at 9:56 PM
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You’ve done it again. I bet Mo is on the phone right now to Colorado, with Junior on the extension, and they are just working out the fine details. I’m going out tomorrow to get my Arenado Jersey. Yes! Yes! Yes!
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I have to agree with you, stlcard25. The size of the gamble was overstated. This looks like a good deal for the Cardinals, but we don’t have all the details yet.
If Arenado is keeping the opt out then yes it is a big gamble for the Cards. They are counting on their old strategy of the player loving St. Louis.
On the flip side, that seems like a very light package of prospects we are sending back. Very light. We get to keep Gorman and all of our other top prospects.
What about Colorado taking back one of our big contacts? I guess that is what the $50M is about. Man the Rockies must have been more desperate than we imagined. Great job to the Cardinal front office!
What about Colorado taking back one of our big contacts? I guess that is what the $50M is about. Man the Rockies must have been more desperate than we imagined. Great job to the Cardinal front office!
I’m guessing that Carp and Fowler both said no way to waiving their no trade clauses or Colorado didn’t really want them that much anyway.
Reading the Colorado fan sites today, it sounded like their owner may be crying poorer than Dewitt was even. So the return of potentially 4 guys who could all contribute as major leaguers including a potential star in Torres may have been a gamble they were willing to pay $50M to have happen (as opposed to $200M and a disgruntled star or opt out with nothing but a draft pick).
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