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    That $50 million only matters if Arenado does not opt out.

    He could opt out, renegotiate with the Cardinals, sign a new deal, and then the Rockies owe nothing, is my guess, as that $50 million is probably backloaded.

    And I am guessing Arenado couldn’t just “waive” his 2021 opt out, so he has a gentleman’s agreement not to exercise it, and that’s why they are putting in the 2022 opt out.

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    The volume of traffic today is overloading the server. I apologize for the this and am actively looking to move to a different hosting service.

    BW, not at all blaming you for this. It happens sometimes. Thank you for taking care of this place where we can get so much enjoyment of our team.

    I think we are all excited that the Cards actually did something we pretty much believed was impossible this off-season. Not sure what got into Dewitt, but I’m glad he opened de wallet. 😁

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    Yeah, having a server crash on this type of news is to be expected

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    I’m not a big fan of nolan getting to keep his 2021 opt out, would rather it be after 2022 but if so it’s still worth it especially if we are getting 50 million, if that’s right. Really nothing to lose.

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    I was being ludicrous ( short trip for me) but now it could turn out to be my greatest call ever. I sure hope it happens. The opt out doesn’t bother me. I can’t see any team giving him more than 35 million. We’ll see. Now, I have to say this because it;ls true. They can’t stop now. Arenado and Goldschmidt are not enoogh to win the WS. They need to add more offense. This is a good start but you can’t put on the brakes. Those on here who work for the Cardinal’s intelligence division need to convey this to Junior.

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    Walt who? Mo has been in charge of baseball ops longer than Walt now. They each have one world title – so far.

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    So the Cardinals are essentially getting Arenado for 6 years/$150M? That is essentially the George Springer contract and Arenado is younger. This could be a steal for the Cards.

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    LACF said:

    He could opt out, renegotiate with the Cardinals, sign a new deal, and then the Rockies owe nothing, is my guess, as that $50 million is probably backloaded.

    I am not so sure. Mo said as recently as today again that they expect to have a down payroll in 2021. Unless they get a lot of cash up front – or unload some salary in another trade – they would not make their target.

    This is not the “salary neutral” trade they have said they were looking for.

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    ESPN is reporting sources say Baker isn’t in the deal. It is going to be interesting to see which players are actually heading to the mountains of Colorado.

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    So the Cardinals are essentially getting Arenado for 6 years/$150M? That is essentially the George Springer contract and Arenado is younger. This could be a steal for the Cards.

    Yeah, but Springer only cost cash, not prospects/players

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    There is also supposedly deferred money in the deal. That is an old National strategy. Not sure I like that but whatever.

    I really can’t see Arenado opting out unless he is MVP. Walking away from $35M/yr would be hard to do.

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    I am not so sure. Mo said as recently as today again that they expect to have a down payroll in 2021. Unless they get a lot of cash up front – or unload some salary in another trade – they would have to get a lot of $$ relief this season.

    Sometimes, things change. The Cardinals were already set to win the division. Now, they are virtually a lock, barring injuries.

    Maybe Mo & DeWitt saw a market inefficiency and are squeezing the shorts.

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    LA, if that list is true we aren’t giving anything close to what I thought we would have to give up. Rockie fans have to be crushed.

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    Maybe and maybe not. We will see the financial details once the smoke clears.

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    The Cardinals could still move more salary before the season starts. CMart could be on the block.

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    If we kept Ortega, this will be a win. The rumor Baker isn’t in the deal really worries me.

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    So 3B and 1B could be locked up for several years. Does Gorman become DH, 2B, or traded for another big piece eventually?

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    It is weird to see a speculated trade rumor involving the Cardinals come true

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    If Gorman develops, there will be a spot.

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    gscottar said:

    CMart could be on the block.

    He has been on the block for two years now…

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    If Baker is not in the package, I figure Gorman is part of the deal. If Gorman is not in the deal, I hope they try him at 2B.

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    They added one year at $15 million to Arenado’s deal.

    I don’t think he is opting out.

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    wanted to bring this over here cause it’s completely cracking me up. How did you know, mspaid?

    Ha stlcard25 I had this in my clipboard from the other thread, ready to do this! Great minds think alike. Bravo to Jager for your perseverance!

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    It just keeps getting better.

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