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February 1, 2021 at 9:45 pm #153134
Yeah, there are a lot of #stlcards Arenado articles out there already, and here is mine. (free) https://t.co/VWhUc7etaR pic.twitter.com/oTO2CnbNam
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 2, 2021
February 1, 2021 at 10:22 pm #153135Anyone think it was $50 million and they had to redo the players because the Player Union or MLB did want to set something that high? I just find it odd how many names changed, and that (to me) it appears to be lighter.
February 1, 2021 at 10:41 pm #153142PadsFS
ParticipantI saw it’s 15 due for 2021, 20 deferred to later and 16 due in 2027 for extra year, so the Rockies are paying for 2021 and 2027 exclusively.
February 1, 2021 at 10:43 pm #153143PadsFS
ParticipantThat makes sense too as the cards drop the Carpenter and Fowler money after 2021.
February 1, 2021 at 10:43 pm #153144So the Cardinals are basically getting Arenado for free in 2021? Wow indeed!
February 1, 2021 at 11:03 pm #153145bling said:
Its not official until TCN Roster Matrix is updated.
Consider it done!
February 1, 2021 at 11:15 pm #153146Looks like the FaGalde fanclub dodged another bullet.
“Whew” is spot on, stlcard25! The thought of losing ATG (that’s “Alexander The Great” to the layman) in this transaction was a real fear. He may have been a major reason for this deal’s holdup. Not having to include him makes this trade very very sweet indeed.
I spoke to my mother from Colorado Springs earlier tonight and she’s throwing a tizzy over losing Arenado. She and her boyfriend have held season tickets for the last few years and she told me tonight that they are boycotting the team until further notice. I haven’t seen her this riled up since the Rockies traded her favorite 3rd baseman, whom she thought was cute, about 10 years ago. I have since forgot his name, but I think he went on to play for the cubbies for awhile.
February 1, 2021 at 11:19 pm #153147Arenado will retain player options for the 2022 and 2023
Brian does this mean that the 2021 option is erased and we are guaranteed two years?
February 1, 2021 at 11:24 pm #153148Also is the $20m that is deferred a conditional payment? They make it seem unconditional which is crazy good.
February 1, 2021 at 11:31 pm #153149So the Cardinals are basically getting Arenado for free in 2021? Wow indeed!
Not really. Just going the OPM route. Other peoples’ money. 😉
February 1, 2021 at 11:45 pm #153150Also is the $20m that is deferred a conditional payment?
So, the $20 million is paid to the Cardinals if Arenado does not opt out, and paid directly to Arenado if he does opt out.
February 1, 2021 at 11:57 pm #153151Are the Rockies really gonna pay for both Arenado and Ozuna with the extra $15 million?
How did the Rockies miss out on Nogowski? He could really be special there.February 1, 2021 at 11:59 pm #153153Are the Rockies really gonna pay for both Arenado and Ozuna with the extra $15 million?
Yes, the Cardinals should bring back Ozuna if we have a DH this year
February 2, 2021 at 12:00 am #153154Is it possible that they could end up with Arenado, Wainwright, Molina, and sign Ozuna all for Kolton Wong’s money?
February 2, 2021 at 12:03 am #153155Is it possible that they could end up with Arenado, Wainwright, Molina, and sign Ozuna all for Kolton Wong’s money?
No
Wong was due $12.5 million. Wainwright signed for $8 million.
February 2, 2021 at 1:34 am #153157So what does everyone think about the 5 players got back?
February 2, 2021 at 6:01 am #153158so cal asked
Arenado will retain player options for the 2022 and 2023
Brian does this mean that the 2021 option is erased and we are guaranteed two years?
No, I don’t think so. It may just be the wording. As I understand it, the opt outs are still after the 2021 and 2022 seasons, prior to 2022 and 2023.
February 2, 2021 at 6:35 am #153164
stlcard25ParticipantThis ESPN article says the opt outs are after the 2022 and 2023 seasons. Perhaps they are mixed up? MLB says after the 2021 and 2022 seasons.
February 2, 2021 at 6:37 am #153165Lets hope that we don’t have to worry about him opting out of either of those 2 years and going to So Cal…
February 2, 2021 at 6:37 am #153166Arenado is scheduled to meet with the media via Zoom today at noon. I am looking forward to it!
February 2, 2021 at 6:42 am #153169
stlcard25ParticipantGetting Arenado for free this season seems to be quite the boon. It tells me that the Rockies felt that there was a significant chance that he was going to opt out after this year. Thus, they decided the return from the Cards was better than the sandwich pick. I agree. I am not sure whether the Rockies would fall into the group that would get a pick after the first round or the second round, but they just picked up the Cardinals 3rd rounders from the last two drafts, a legit starting pitcher, a 10th rounder, and Elehuris Montero, who would probably be a top 100 prospect if he hadn’t broken his hamate bone.
I’d look at it like this: they basically bought Gomber for $16M and obtained Montero, Gil, Locey and Sommers for Arenado on a slightly underwater deal with the money they kicked in. Great deal? No…but not as bad as it’s made out to be.
February 2, 2021 at 6:49 am #153171
stlcard25ParticipantAlso, how’s this one for a “revenue neutral” trade, jj? Looks like Mo really pulled it off. Lol
February 2, 2021 at 7:18 am #153179
jj-cf-stlParticipantMo just had a different type of “that’s on me” transaction
February 2, 2021 at 7:26 am #153181
jj-cf-stlParticipantCots has a breakdown of the salary structure now.
February 2, 2021 at 7:58 am #153183bccran
ParticipantThis was a great trade for the Cardinals, but the Rockies did get some talent.
Gomber – 4th round draft pick. Had a 2.98 ERA at Memphis in 2019. Followed that with a 1.86 ERA for the Cards in 2020 in 29 innings.
Montero – Possible replacement for Carp before Gorman fell to us. Rated our #5 prospect in TCN voting recently completed.
Locey – 3rd round draft pick in 2019.
Finalist for college picker of the year
out of the U. Of Georgia. 11-2 for the Bulldogs with a 2.53 ERA. After being drafted, struck out 28 in 15 innings at Peoria. A little wild, but was overpowering.Gil – another 3rd round draftee (in 2018).
17 year old High schooler. At Johnson City in 2019 he hit 7 home runs and drove in 30 in only 51 games. Started to show real potential.Some I’m in the camp that the Rockies got some guys who really may help them downstream.
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