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China didn’t drop the ball, they intentionally misled people, and jailed people for trying to tell the truth. They are still doing that. We can’t compare anyone to China since we have no idea what their real numbers or situation is like.
162 isn’t happening. But I understand why they are thinking what they are thinking. I’d call it hopium induced delusion. But there are likely some rough days ahead, and we can’t just wish that away. There is no path forward without pain here. Baseball will be a welcome relief back to normalcy in two or three months.
Anyone that thinks the virus numbers are going to look better in two weeks doesn’t understand how this thing spreads.
Yep. To show how quickly things change, it was just 48 hours ago when people thought it was a reasonable idea for the Mariners to play their games in Arizona.
What is the world going to look like in another 48?
I actually think we are on the right track for slowing this thing down and avoiding an Italy situation. We could be back to something close to normalcy in two or three months. Let’s just hope that our hospitals and and economy can keep their figurative heads above water.
I love the back and forth. I need people disagreeing me – it makes me think more than an echo chamber.
Take care of yourself, Minuteman3.
Sorry I deleted the earlier Tweet. I somehow thought today was Friday.
Haha, I’ve been there. Can’t blame someone for wishful thinking (though, in his line of work, it wouldn’t make any difference).
I’d love to hear the negotiations that got them to Saturday. Why not today or tomorrow?
The U.S. population is close to 330 million, meaning our incidence rate so far is 1 in 330,000, about 1/20 of China’s rate. In other words, if our incidence rate grew to match China’s before leveling off, we would get to about 20,000 cases. There have been at least 34 million infected with normal seasonal flu this year, 350,000 hospitalizations, and 20,000 deaths.
Every league is now in a virtue signalling race to give the appearance of concern. The over reaction is mind boggling.
Patient 0 in China was infected in late November or early December, and you are using China stats that are from months later when they had built out a testing infrastructure. We are not months out from patient zero here, and we have had virtually no testing infrastructure.
You can’t make a judgement in comparing the 9th inning in one country vs. the 2nd inning in another.
Feel free to lick doorknobs if you like, but don’t use ignorant science to blast people for playing it safe.
It’s going to be interesting to see if playing without crowds for TV audiences is a possibility. I am sure MLB would do better financially with this than they would shortening the season.
Though they may need to learn from the NBA and make sure players are tested regularly. If this spreads through a clubhouse, it would devastate that team.
Yeah, it is pretty amazing how willing a lot of fans are to help out minor league ballplayers. People are pretty amazing sometimes.
No worries, guys. They can just play the games in Phoenix.
Host families would be really good for a lot of those guys – really good. Not only would they save money, they would eat better, they would party less, and they’d get in less trouble.
I’ve always wondered why they don’t have these more places (I was thinking they had some of them in the low minors, but I could be wrong). Many of the guys who played in college have already had experience living with host family during Summer ball, and many of those lead to life-long friendships. It would be good for fans and players (though there would certainly be some “incidents” that would have to be dealt with).
Great idea, and I really hope it takes off.
MLB officials are wondering why the NBA and NCAA don’t just move their events to Phoenix.
I like that they think they can plan this out two weeks in advance. Two weeks ago, Seattle didn’t have a problem.
The CDC has been failing at every turn on this.
I understand that government is needed and does a few things well – I’m no anarchist. My general belief, though, is that everything the government gets its grubby paws on goes up in cost and down in quality.
But the need to pass laws to contain viral outbreaks is going to be apparent soon enough.
You are being much too logical about behavior that is not always so. It all depends on what you believe MLB’s motives are, and (in my opinion) what they believe they can get away with.
Oh, logic and reason left a long time ago. And, I agree, MLB decision-makers are short-sited fools who will, almost certainly, do the wrong thing here. They are a comedy of errors, and, hopefully, the local governments won’t let them do something this stupid. And I think I’ve typed enough here for you guys to know that I’m not much of a fan of government solutions, in general.
I was referring to MLB ownership, who will make more money with games in any populated stadium than in an empty big-league one.
In the short-term. If that causes an influx of Seattlites to fly in and infect the locals, what have you gained?
The Mariners probably own or have a lease on their Spring training/AZL league facility so the stadium operator might be the Mariners themselves.
That can be fixed the same way that the Seattle/Washington government made sure they couldn’t play at home.
As you are fond of saying, their behavior is driven by the basic laws of economics. 😉
I realize you are mostly joking, but I don’t see what law of economics would have the operators of a baseball stadium in Phoenix wanting to accelerate the spread of disease in their own area. That would have the opposite effect of making more money or being good for the overall economy. In fact, it would increase the likelihood of a local economic disaster.
Short-term greed at the expense of long-term devastation goes against good economics and capitalism.
I had the same thought, Mud, but I think Americans are pretty defiant. I think there will be renewed interest in going to baseball games (and other sports) after being told to stay away for a month or two.
Could go either way, though.
Haha. So MLB’s solution to a viral pandemic is to take a bunch of people from a heavily infected area on the road to a lesser-infected area.
What could possibly go wrong?
The fans can, and I think will, make that decision for themselves. All the people who are dismissing this as nothing don’t understand how viruses spread. We are in the early stages now, and this is going to get serious by the end of this month, most likely. I’m not saying panic, but be smart like Minuteman3 is saying.
We will see baseball games being played in front of empty stadiums this year, whether it be by requirement or fans choosing on their own to stay away.
This isn’t Armageddon, but it isn’t the seasonal flu, either.
But her argument is silly. The players can avoid close contact with fans. If media is in the clubhouse, they could get contaminated a lot easier that way.
And MLB is a business. Of course money matters. Media actually helps them financially, otherwise, media wouldn’t have ever had access.
It is just a dumb argument. I get that it seems like an over-reaction, but if someone doesn’t understand that there is a cost-benefit analysis to every precaution taken, then they just don’t have the intellectual capacity to be listened to.
I read the whole dumb article waiting for her argument on how banning media would make teams more money, but, alas, that was not in there. She’s just whining.
And both would be wrong.
Any player who “sees the writing on the wall” that he’s not going to make the team and decides to just pack his stuff up and go home is a quitter and a loser. Good riddance.