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March 12, 2020 at 8:06 pm #124657
Thanks ATSOTC. I am trying. Kinda like a little family of baseball nuts here. Appreciate the back and forths even if we all get grumpy and happy at times. I am really going to miss baseball and hope they can get most of the season in.
My second favorite, NASCAR, is going to try it with empty seats. They must figure they will only have to suffer through two or three races before they can open the gates again.
March 12, 2020 at 8:37 pm #124658I love the back and forth. I need people disagreeing me – it makes me think more than an echo chamber.
March 12, 2020 at 9:14 pm #124661Yes folks, for many it’s going to hit closer and closer to home over the near term, if not already. There was a couple who tested positive in our area in Virginia. All you can do is take the appropriate precautions for your personal situation.
I retired last July, so I can stay home more. Too bad I can’t watch sports to pass the time. More time to enjoy music, do yard work and the taxes. The wife isn’t quite ready to retire and interviews many people in the public, with customary handshaking. They have been told it’s okay to shy away from that now. She half jokingly told me I might want to get away from her and go visit my 89 y/o Mom, who lives in a rural area in NC. I just found out tonight that Mom’s small town has two people who just tested positive. Our daughter works in the Medical ICU at the UVA Medical Center, which is a large and busy facility. Naturally, we are concerned for her. She says they are running short on some supplies (things like gowns, masks etc.) needed for protection and they just had to test someone today. Fortunately, our daughter is 30 y/o and healthy.
March 12, 2020 at 9:35 pm #124662Wouldn’t it be best to keep all major league, and minor league players in camp? At least for a while? If they leave, they get exposed to more people. I would test most anyone in camp, players, trainers, Cards front office, etc.
March 12, 2020 at 9:41 pm #124663You can’t get the virus for no reason. It has to come in through your nose or mouth. Either somebody breathes the virus on you, or you touch something that already has the virus on it and then touch your face with your hands, or you bring it home with you and it finds its way into your body that way. Supposedly, the virus can last up to 9 days if left on a handrail or something. Best thing to do is, as you say, hunker down. Get some Clorox wipes and start wiping things. Stay away from crowds for now. I’m going to try and do that. I think we’ll all be fine.
March 12, 2020 at 11:37 pm #124665Anyone that thinks the virus numbers are going to look better in two weeks doesn’t understand how this thing spreads.
March 13, 2020 at 12:53 am #124666This tweet shows a graph that asserts social distancing is the key to slow the spread of COVID-19. If you open the tweet and click on the link to the Medium article, there is a detailed discussion with data and graphs the author uses to support his conclusions.
You should read this about the COVID-19 situation.https://t.co/NzAZPyEn0N
— James Lindsay, full varsity (@ConceptualJames) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 6:55 am #124667Anyone that thinks the virus numbers are going to look better in two weeks doesn’t understand how this thing spreads.
Yep. To show how quickly things change, it was just 48 hours ago when people thought it was a reasonable idea for the Mariners to play their games in Arizona.
What is the world going to look like in another 48?
I actually think we are on the right track for slowing this thing down and avoiding an Italy situation. We could be back to something close to normalcy in two or three months. Let’s just hope that our hospitals and and economy can keep their figurative heads above water.
March 13, 2020 at 7:09 am #124668Right ATOS. Keeping down crowded venues for a period of time will hopefully blunt but not stop the spread. What I find very heartening with this virus is that it does not in general take down younger people with no underlying health problems so we won’t be losing a whole generation as we did in the 1918 Flu epidemic. As for baseball, I only hope that MLB and the media can find ways to keep up interest until it can return. Places like TCN will contribute to that interest but we are going to look kinda stupid arguing over an outfield dilemma or who makes the starter list when nobody is training or playing. But then we manage to survive every off season so I guess this is just an extended one.
March 13, 2020 at 7:57 am #124669What we’ve felt over the past 24 hours reminds me of when Bobby Cox said, “Even if you win the World Series, you wake up the next morning feeling kind of empty because there isn’t another game to play.”
— Mark Bowman (@mlbbowman) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 8:21 am #124671
stlcard25ParticipantIn the grand scheme of things, missing baseball for a few weeks or even an entire year is small potatoes. But I will still miss it. I pray all those who depend on the game to feed their families have the means to ride it out for the short haul and that the long haul never happens.
March 13, 2020 at 9:27 am #124672Anyone that thinks the virus numbers are going to look better in two weeks doesn’t understand how this thing spreads.
I think you are right. China and South Korea are just now starting to see the number of new cases stabilize and decrease and they are about two months ahead of us in dealing with it. Of course Italy is still in total lockdown mode. Hopefully our medical system can ramp up our testing capabilities ASAP and hopefully these distancing techniques being implemented will help prevent the rapid spread of the virus.
It seems realistic to me that we won’t see any baseball before May.
March 13, 2020 at 9:29 am #124673I guess a couple of positive results of the baseball delay are:
1. No baseball in the frigid cold weather of the upper Midwest.
2. Some of the injured players for the Cardinals won’t miss as many games. I am talking about Hicks, Mikolas, and Miller. I guess you could could even include Cecil if you want. (And Goldy’s elbow).
March 13, 2020 at 10:03 am #124677While I hate the reason for the delayed start, March 26 is way too early to start a baseball season anyway. Regular and post-season baseball from late March to Halloween is too long. A season should run roughly from April 10 to October 20.
But the much more important issue is keeping this thing from getting out of hand, and we are doing the right thing by suspending big venue events for a period of time. Although I would probably not have trouble recovering from it, I have stopped going to my gym starting last Friday, and am working out at home and riding the bike. My wife’s company deals with the public, but they have stopped that for now and all correspondence is being done through electronic means or through a drop box they put up.
One thing that I do not understand is people selling off stock like they are. With financial management, the two things you have to avoid to be successful are fear and greed. If you make decisions based on either, it will likely sabotage your financial health. But the market hates uncertainty, and that is what is going on. My manager has stressed calm and so we are biting the bullet and not doing anything rash with my portfolio. Hard to watch the numbers sink, but it happens.
We will recover and have fun and games again, but for now this is best in both society and financially.
March 13, 2020 at 10:23 am #124679Roger Dean Stadium has announced that payment for tickets purchased for now-cancelled spring training games will be refunded (excluding service fees). Full details here. https://t.co/UkM8C0scf7
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 11:24 am #124683The cancellation insanity continues.
March 13, 2020 at 12:08 pm #124684I have not seen a thing cancelled, delayed, postponed or modified that makes a hill of beans to get upset about. Disappointment- yes but if you are not alive it makes no difference. We are ALL in this together.
March 13, 2020 at 3:03 pm #124702In a change, players are being sent home from spring camps now after an agreement between MLB and union. Possible some could remain but there will be no formal workouts. Players are concerned.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 3:22 pm #124704I am working to get an update from Cardinals officials.
Minor league players are now leaving the clubhouse with bags packed. #stlcards
— Tom Ackerman (@Ackerman1120) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 3:37 pm #124705NASCAR just announced they will not be running the first two races with no fans in attendance. Time for the TV folks to spruce up their programming.
March 13, 2020 at 3:45 pm #124706In other words, players can do whatever they want… (Good for them.)
Official memo from union says this:
1. Players will be permitted to stay in the area of the Spring Training facility
2. Players will be permitted to travel to the Club’s home city
3. Players will be permitted to travel to their off-season home (or other location)
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 3:52 pm #124707Trying to save revenue, but I would give this less than 1 percent chance of actually happening.
For example, Ilinois has banned all events until at least May 1. So MLB is going to add five weeks to the end of the season? Yeah, right.
This isn’t quite as unrealistic as moving games to Phoenix, but it is close…
MLB still is hoping to play 162 games, playing the postponed games at the back end of the schedule, but obviously subject to change.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 4:06 pm #124708There is no way that happens unless baseball schedules a ton of day/night doubleheaders. No one wants the WS to be played in December and if that happens it would basically eliminate the offseason.
March 13, 2020 at 4:14 pm #124709Worth noting: these are the 40-man players. Heard some teams are mandating that non 40-man guys go home. https://t.co/iRkvAFxtIR
— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) March 13, 2020
March 13, 2020 at 4:16 pm #124710Good point, BHC. Doubleheaders could be an answer – though I question whether the Players’ Association would buy in. The whole reason the regular season begins in March now is because they wanted more time off during the season. This could be just the opposite – jam all 162 games into potentially even fewer days than before.
Why can’t MLB just be more realistic?
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