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I like that they think they can plan this out two weeks in advance. Two weeks ago, Seattle didn’t have a problem.
The CDC has been failing at every turn on this.
I understand that government is needed and does a few things well – I’m no anarchist. My general belief, though, is that everything the government gets its grubby paws on goes up in cost and down in quality.
But the need to pass laws to contain viral outbreaks is going to be apparent soon enough.
You are being much too logical about behavior that is not always so. It all depends on what you believe MLB’s motives are, and (in my opinion) what they believe they can get away with.
Oh, logic and reason left a long time ago. And, I agree, MLB decision-makers are short-sited fools who will, almost certainly, do the wrong thing here. They are a comedy of errors, and, hopefully, the local governments won’t let them do something this stupid. And I think I’ve typed enough here for you guys to know that I’m not much of a fan of government solutions, in general.
I was referring to MLB ownership, who will make more money with games in any populated stadium than in an empty big-league one.
In the short-term. If that causes an influx of Seattlites to fly in and infect the locals, what have you gained?
The Mariners probably own or have a lease on their Spring training/AZL league facility so the stadium operator might be the Mariners themselves.
That can be fixed the same way that the Seattle/Washington government made sure they couldn’t play at home.
As you are fond of saying, their behavior is driven by the basic laws of economics. 😉
I realize you are mostly joking, but I don’t see what law of economics would have the operators of a baseball stadium in Phoenix wanting to accelerate the spread of disease in their own area. That would have the opposite effect of making more money or being good for the overall economy. In fact, it would increase the likelihood of a local economic disaster.
Short-term greed at the expense of long-term devastation goes against good economics and capitalism.
I had the same thought, Mud, but I think Americans are pretty defiant. I think there will be renewed interest in going to baseball games (and other sports) after being told to stay away for a month or two.
Could go either way, though.
Haha. So MLB’s solution to a viral pandemic is to take a bunch of people from a heavily infected area on the road to a lesser-infected area.
What could possibly go wrong?
The fans can, and I think will, make that decision for themselves. All the people who are dismissing this as nothing don’t understand how viruses spread. We are in the early stages now, and this is going to get serious by the end of this month, most likely. I’m not saying panic, but be smart like Minuteman3 is saying.
We will see baseball games being played in front of empty stadiums this year, whether it be by requirement or fans choosing on their own to stay away.
This isn’t Armageddon, but it isn’t the seasonal flu, either.
But her argument is silly. The players can avoid close contact with fans. If media is in the clubhouse, they could get contaminated a lot easier that way.
And MLB is a business. Of course money matters. Media actually helps them financially, otherwise, media wouldn’t have ever had access.
It is just a dumb argument. I get that it seems like an over-reaction, but if someone doesn’t understand that there is a cost-benefit analysis to every precaution taken, then they just don’t have the intellectual capacity to be listened to.
I read the whole dumb article waiting for her argument on how banning media would make teams more money, but, alas, that was not in there. She’s just whining.
Any player who “sees the writing on the wall” that he’s not going to make the team and decides to just pack his stuff up and go home is a quitter and a loser. Good riddance.
The Cardinals are paying Flaherty what the players association negotiated for Flaherty. If he has a problem, he should work to get that changed. I’m not sure what his $10,000 protest is accomplishing.
Veterans are in charge of MLBPA. They will always negotiate a deal that rewards seniority, at the expense of the young players. That’s how unions work.
I heard on one of the broadcasts the other day that this season there is only one live feed in the video room. All the rest are on delays.
I think that’s right, and I think that’s new (but I’m not sure).
Guys, be aware that the trash can banging was only one of several ways to communicate the info to the batter. They changed these frequently.
As an aside, I don’t think that their CF camera was the only way to get catcher’s signals. There are live feeds (i.e. no broadcast delay) in the replay rooms. In other words, this, during the regular season, may not have been a home-game-only thing (and it certainly wasn’t a trash can banging thing only). In the playoffs, there are far more MLB personnel crawling around, possibly permanently in both replay rooms, so that’s when the CF camera and home games were key.
Omertà! Very heartwarming when virtuous cheats and criminals espouse ethics such as loyalty.
Brilliant line.
Funny how everyone finds a way to hate on whistle blowers. When they are anonymous, they are cowards for not owning it and hiding. When they own their words and don’t hide, they are still cowards.
Funny how Fiers is coward for telling the truth, but the guys who cheated (and lied to their friends about them tipping pitches) are not. Weird world we live in.
Here is an example of waiver. Also a good example of a contract of adhesion.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-northern-illinois-nil-waiver-20150326-htmlstory.html
These documents don’t come out at trial because the schools (and other entities that make you sign things like this) know that it won’t hold up. The purpose of these documents aren’t to win at trial.
The real problem that the minor leaguers have is that if they choose to make a stink of it, the video game will just take them out – and most of them like the fact they are in the game. Again, we are making them victims of our imagination.
Here is an article from right after the lawsuit they won.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-ncaa-waivers-met-20150326-story.html
And here is the relevant passage. I don’t have time to find actual documents, but I’m sure they are somewhere in the ether.
Before the start of every season, college athletes must sign an NCAA “student-athlete statement” to affirm their eligibility. It covers things such as educational records and drug testing, and for years it included a passage in which athletes gave permission for the NCAA and related parties “to use (the athlete’s) name or picture to generally promote NCAA championships or other NCAA events, activities or programs.”
They signed contracts for how much they got paid, too, but yet the class action lawsuit(s?) live on.
For that specific term, it can be declared a contract of adhesion, and throw it out.
NCAA players signed similar things, and yet they won their lawsuit for the exact same thing. The difference is that NCAA players names and numbers were a much bigger part of the game than are minor leaguers in an MLB game. They can go back to putting random names and numbers, and game rev would hardly change.
The bottom line is the same. Minor leaguers have no representation so they get taken advantage of. In this example, the video game makers profit.
I don’t think they need a union to win this lawsuit. NCAA players didn’t have one. Their bigger issue is that they weren’t allowed to be paid. MiLBers don’t have that issue.
Now, those guys need to cough up some of their $300 a week and get themselves a high-powered attorney!
I always laugh when fans start railing on the commissioner for being an incompetent boob. Their job is to be the bad guy. In theory, they are supposed to be a neutral middle between the players and the owners to run the league. In reality, owners hire and fire them, so they generally do the bidding of the owners and act a shield for unpopular decisions.
Manfred is being blamed from every angle, but I doubt that the people hating on him could get together and come to a consensus about what he should have done. He’s no idiot. He’s just in a job that requires him to be the fall guy.
