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I seem to recall Bloom working somewhere else before Boston where he was really successful at for nearly a decade.
Boston also reached the ALCS under Bloom. As the Cardinals have proven, lowering payroll and remaining competitive is rather difficult.
63yearCardinalFan
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Bw52, we must be of the same vintage… As an old guy, it’s hard for me to accept that a 29 year old’s best years will be behind him two years from now.Even if they are not behind him, he will be a free agent then.
If you aren’t planning to compete in 26 or 27, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to keep guys with 2 years remaining.
I don’t mind them trading Donovan. He is at his peak and it’s not about shedding salary. I think they may even get more value back than he’s worth too.
I also don’t think he has a defensive home here since Wetherholt doesn’t seem like a 3Bman to me.
These are some pretty decent prospects here:
In talks with Seattle, Woo reports that the Cardinals have discussed top pitching prospect Jurrangelo Cijntje and outfielder Lazaro Montes. The pair are Seattle’s #7 and #3 prospects, respectively, according to MLB Pipeline. In talks with the Giants, Woo writes that the names of infielder Gavin Kilen and southpaw Carson Whisenhunt have come up. Kilen is San Francisco’s #2 prospect per Pipeline, while Whisenhunt ranks #7.Cijntje was the #15 pick in the 2024 draft. Montes hit 32 HRs last year in A+/AA ball.
Whisenhunt could make our rotation. Kilen was the 13th pick from this past draft. Other than Kilen, the other 3 are all top 100 prospects. Kilen was teammates with Doyle and Franklin.
blingboy
Tommy John surgery in 2021 and flexor tendon surgery in 2023. He also had the esophagus surgery.
This past season was his first back on the mound. He seems to have held up physically, but went through two teams and was looking for a job this winter. It could work out well though, or not.
Not exactly. He had right elbow neuritis end his season early this past year.
CardsFanInChiTown
Where on gods green earth did you get those numbers Pads? I have a political fake numbers comment that I won’t say… These are last years BB9. (Hjerpe is 2024 since he was out)
Davis – 6.1
Doyle – 4.9
Hjerpe – 4.8
Mathews – 6.7This being a draft-thread, those were their numbers during their final season before the draft – in college.
I’m not gonna lie, I really can’t stand what we are doing right now.
I hate ‘rebuilding’ and getting excited about saving a billionaires money even worse. We tank and don’t even get a good pick?!?! Frustrating to say the least.
CardsFanInChiTown
I’ll take that over another LHSP prospect who strikes out 10/Nine but walks 9/Nine.Who are you referring to here?
Doyle with his 15.2 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9?
B Davis with his 11.4 K/9 and 4.0 BB/9? (5th rounder)
Q Matthews with his 11.4 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9? (4th rounder)
Hjerpe with his 14.0 K/9 and 2.0 BB/9?
Mautz with his 12.8 K/9 and 2.2 BB/9? (2nd rounder)
Zack Thompson with his 13.0 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9 – This gets us back to 2016 draft-wise.CardsFanInChiTown
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Quick add on:If the Cards win a top 6 pick they will not be eligible for the lottery for the 2027 draft. Since they “won” number five last year that eliminates the possibility.
so really #7 would be a good sweet spot if we can’t get #1-4 imo. 5 or 6 kind of hurts us.
I can’t see us being competitive next year at all now so we will surely have the top 5 odds.
Although it may be better to get a 5 pick locked in rather than wait a year.
gscottar
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The Cardinals are essentially buying two prospects for $20M unless the other “savings” are invested back into the team. I will believe that when I see it.You’re spot on.
I’ll add that we traded for another Tekoah Roby and a McGreevy. Not a bad trade. I don’t know that it will amount to much, but at least it’s something.
Pugs will enjoy this Fitts guys name I bet. 😉
CardsFanInChiTown
Refusing to vote for guys who won’t end up in the 8th or 9th inning at least. Such as MolinaFor me, relief pitchers are more important than ever and it seems like it’s going further that way so I’ve been voting that way as well.
Helsley, for instance, had more of an impact than his starter contemporaries, Alex Reyes and Dakota Hudson.
#23 – Chase Davis
#24 – Andre GranilloI like Davis a lot at this point. It’s kind of wild how his BB:K ratio has gotten worse since college though.
I think Granillo definitely gets a spot in the STL bullpen this season.
It doesn’t hurt the ‘rebuild’ to field an 80-85 win team in the interim.
But you have to actually commit to a rebuild by getting as many prospects and young players as possible.
For instance, trade Noot and/or Donovan, but then sign Bader to replace them. We get prospects and still remain relevant. Could flip Bader at the deadline too.
Likewise, guys like Buehler and Mahle can be good and flipped at the deadline, but keep our pitching staff in tact through the first half.
