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It also makes sense for the Mariners to acquire Arenado. They’re not at all strong at 3B. Arenado could very well be the piece that puts the Mariners over the top. Maybe the Mariners can’t afford to take on as much of Arenado’s salary as the Cardinals are demanding. Or, maybe the Cardinals have a better offer from another team. It’s hard to believe that Dipoto is not jumping all over the prospect of acquiring both Donovan and Arenado. And even though the Mariners have already acquired a left-handed reliever, they could very possibly get Romero in the right deal. If ever there was a deal that was worth the cost for the Mariners, this would have to be it.
CIF- if Donovan gets traded and the return gets injured you still would likely have several seasons of said player to be productive.What happens if BD stays and gets a devastating knee or shoulder injury? All value is gone and team is still on the hook for 5 million or so are money?In my view I would rather take the chance on getting a solid return for a player coming off heel injuries,nearing 30 and close to free agency .I would rather gamble with young players with upside instead of treading water with players who are starting to age,Free agency on the horizon.
Greyghost, I’d argue that they almost have to trade him this offseason.
– No one on this side of Pluto thinks they have a shot until 2028.
– I don’t want them to suck and lose 100 games, but don’t see a 2026 playoff run either.
– Contention window opens in 2028
– An extension from the Cards is not coming
– He’s a FA and 31 in 2028 and the way he hustles makes a potential play altering injury even more likely
– 2027 could be a lost season for all of MLB
– cashing out now would be very foolish NOT to doMy thoughts but all true unfortunately.
It also makes sense for the Mariners to acquire Arenado. They’re not at all strong at 3B. Arenado could very well be the piece that puts the Mariners over the top. Maybe the Mariners can’t afford to take on as much of Arenado’s salary as the Cardinals are demanding. Or, maybe the Cardinals have a better offer from another team. It’s hard to believe that Dipoto is not jumping all over the prospect of acquiring both Donovan and Arenado. And even though the Mariners have already acquired a left-handed reliever, they could very possibly get Romero in the right deal. If ever there was a deal that was worth the cost for the Mariners, this would have to be it.
1) The Mariners have a total of about $15.5 million left in their budget to acquire a 2B & 3B.
2) Arenado offers zero upside
3) They have Cole Young, who was a Top 100 prospect before graduating and have Colt Emerson, who is a Top 100 prospect now
3) Romero would be a luxury, not a must have, as they just got a relieverIf I were DiPoto, I would bet on the upside of Young and Emerson over the possible rebound of Arenado.
LA, (assume you live there) you gonna go support Arenado in his new Angels uniform?
I saw Trout once at whatever name the White Sox stadium had at the time. Worth the price of admission just to say I saw him play, but Pujols was on the DL unfortunately.
As for not contending till 2028 that could be true, but I don’t think ticket paying fans are going to tolerate them not putting any money in the team for 3 years in a row (2025/2026/2027) As bad as they were this last year they were in Wild Card contention for quite some time 3-5 games out.
I just don’t see this ultra urgency to do a deal unless they get a great package. They could always sign him to a new contract, but they have time and need not rush it for some mid level prospects in my opinion.
I may be totally wrong on this but I am kind of sick of DeWitt acting so broke that he has to eat 3 meals a day at the homeless shelter
Agree Grey,
If you watched most games, there were not many butts in the seats or paying fans. They lied their backside off very often.They would announce 30,000, but zero chance even 20,000 showed up on a lot of nights. Baseball is entertainment and disposable income for folks, put a winning and entertaining product out there and we will show up again.
Proposal:
Donovan and Burleson for OF Robles (SEA) and prospect pitching.What young controllable pitching from SEA should come back in return?
Sea spends 3mil-ish to trade for 5fwar in 2025. A Sea win now trade that only requires prospects in return.
You mean Victor Robles with his career 89 OPS+? The Nats released him mid-season in 2024 for good reason. May as well keep playing Walker and his career 88 OPS+.
Robles to sweetheart the deal for SEA.
Fedde him when necessary. Stl would be sending 12.5 war of control for keys to their pipeline.Doyle could use a buddy who may be better than him, and his new buddy is bringing friends as the outcome. Prospect guys would know the ask, I don’t.
If we were trading Contreras and Arenado, possibly Nootbaar, and then packaging Donovan and Burleson, we would have only Herrera left as a potential above average hitter. In that case, if we target pitching, I would hope for Sloan at a minimum, maybe even Kade Anderson. That would be a time when I wouldn’t dislike Michael Arroyo because we’d need any potential for a good hitter back. But the Ms would likely balk at that and their fans would complain that no one should ever trade a “potential” great prospect or two for two “average” starting MLB players.
If we were trading Contreras and Arenado, possibly Nootbaar, and then packaging Donovan and Burleson,
I think it is an either or with Contreras & Burleson, not both.
Right now, the Cardinals have three 1B/DH. They need to trade one.
That Dos Equis guy might be the most interesting man in the world but the Mets front office is the most “confusing group” in the world. I would have bet a $2 bill Contreras was going to be traded there when Alonso signed with the O’s.
Boston seems the likeliest now, but I’d gotten excited about Tong potentially becoming a Redbird.
20 HRs surrounded by popguns isn’t going to carry an offense, as we have seen. 80 RBIs from your bopper is what you get. But if you drop Willson into a good lineup its all different. Bloom needs to come with that, and he needs to be talking to the right teem.
Burleson could very well be our opening day 1B, which is not a bad thing.
And I agree that the most likely window of contention will begin in 2028. I don’t expect the Cards to do much spending until then. Most likely just cheapish 1 year deals like we just did with May.
I see Church’s name often mentioned in the forum and elsewhere as a trade add in guy in various scenarios. I don’t understand why. Yes, he is a LH batter, but so what. He hit LHP and RHP at a .300+ clip in the minors last year. He’s an MLB readyish corner outfielder who can potentially hit decently. 6 years of control. He is exactly what we should hold on to and seek more of. If he flatlines, so what. Try the next guy. Its not like its going to cost us the pennant. I can see him making the opening day roster, at least as 4th OF. Who else is it going to be? Even if we acquire an outfielder he still makes the team. We need guys who have current utility and runway.
I like Church as well, bling. I see more upside to us keeping him than trading him. If Koperniak DFA him. He is valuable depth, at least.
If Seattle wants to win now rather than be runner up forever, I think acquiring a future HOFer to fill their need at 3B, and a GG winner to fill their need at 2B, and possibly acquire a lock down closer on top of it all would give them a better chance to win now than waiting to see what a couple of their prospects might do. To each his own.
Currently I have Burly as our best bat. He stacks up high .800 ops months like it’s a habit, and his availability is top shelf. He’s a keeper for a contending club on affordable arb salaries.
Bw52, we must be of the same vintage… As an old guy, it’s hard for me to accept that a 29 year old’s best years will be behind him two years from now.
To me, Donovan is a young, proven player we should include in our rebuild. What would it cost to find a similar performer to replace him? Fix our redundancies by shedding guys who’ve had their chance and continue to struggle… addition by subtraction. If he continues to play well and grow with the team, pay him what the market bears when the time comes… 4-5 years max term.
I don’t understand the math that says replace a “90+” player with a “60”, hoping the “60” develops into the “90” (you already had) three or four years from now… and then move to trade that guy “while his market is hot”. Feels like perpetually just spinning our wheels.
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Bw52, we must be of the same vintage… As an old guy, it’s hard for me to accept that a 29 year old’s best years will be behind him two years from now.Even if they are not behind him, he will be a free agent then.
If you aren’t planning to compete in 26 or 27, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to keep guys with 2 years remaining.
I was a huge fan of Anderson around the draft, but here are the reasons Sloan is a better option:
Libby
Doyle
Mathews
Hjerpe
Mautz
Henderson
Clarke
DavisRoby is really the only RHSP prospect, because after all this time, Tink has to be considered a late inning RHRP.
Sloan and Montes for Donnie and Jojo is getting close to fair. Cards would probably need to throw in a sweetener….
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