- This topic has 206 replies, 28 voices, and was last updated 58 seconds ago by
.
-
Posts
-
Well dropping to 13 is not great to see. The quality difference of dropping 5 spots is actually fairly decent most years. There should still be talent. I absolutely do not want to draft another pitcher. Focus on impact bats the 1st couple of picks and move to pitcher afterwards.
For batters, I do like Gracia in the like ChiTown. I don’t think he makes it to 13 though if he has a good year. Even as a Mississippi State fan, I wouldn’t want to take Reese. He doesn’t look like he will stick at 3B and may not even be a good defensive 1B. I don’t want to take a 1B that high.
Plenty will change in the next 8 months and hopefully this class will establish a good baker’s dozen of picks so the Cards can get a top guy or a top guy like Gracia or Tyler Spangler will fall to the Cards
With 13 and 32 (32 is highly likely to change) I just hope they take college bats that are at least 50-H and 60-P guys. Then take chances in perhaps the 2nd and 3rd round on HS or high upside guys.
I’ve said this 100 times, but if in a trade(s) they can get a comp pick and international $ that gives them not only the pick itself, but more flexibility to try and sign better picks all over the draft. If WC and NA are paid down there is no reason they can’t….
CardsFanInChiTown, the Cards 32 pick will most likely end up being the 33 pick because Zac Gallen will most definitely sign for more than $50M. That pick cannot drop lower than 33 though because there aren’t any other players who would demand comp picks after the 1st round. So, we’re probably looking at the Cards getting the 13, 33, 51, and 89 picks.
Last year, there was about $2.6 million in difference for draft money between pick 5 (where the Cards ended up) and pick 13. That’s just a touch (about $200k) under the value for pick 33, so while they get an extra player, the overall value of this year vs last year will be about the same.
ST25, that was what I was getting at with my previous comment. If they could make a trade to get another comp round pick or heck, multiple comp round picks, it could give them extra flexibility to sign upside guys over floor guys the following 19 rounds. I’ll take that over another LHSP prospect who strikes out 10/Nine but walks 9/Nine.
K/BB ratio is something I look a lot more at in my old age!
The Indians, Royals and Dbacks all have picks in the low 30’s and the Cards have been linked to each in various levels. The money needs to work to get it done.
Example: Contreras to Dbacks and Cards kick in to make his salary at $18m in 26 and $13.5 in 27 and Cards get the Dbacks comp pick and a prospect. That is simply a non thought out idea fyi
K/BB ratio is something I look a lot more at in my old age!
Me too. Especially important when you always have guys on the field that play poor defense. The ball finds those guys.
KeepComingBack, curious on your # you base it on. For me, 2.5 or higher is kind of the level I base my thoughts on? Like a 3, aka 9Ks and 3BB is acceptable. 12 Ks and 5 BB is way worse in college or Milb.
That’s all just my opinion of course.How in the world did the Cardinals end up picking 13th? For some reason I thought they were on the top 6 – was that not true?
ZTR, they were not but I don’t think anyone imagined them dropping to 13. Last year moving up to 5 for Doyle was “good luck”, Only getting 13 yesterday was beyond “bad luck”.
Hopefully De-lost-his-wallet finds his desire to win before the start of ST and buys more comp picks in trades..… I might just copy and paste that statement and get a copyright for it?….
13th pick?? sigh…. so much for tanking and rebuilding through the draft. Bloom is going to have to put his “quantity over quality” hat on.
CardsFanInChiTown
I’ll take that over another LHSP prospect who strikes out 10/Nine but walks 9/Nine.Who are you referring to here?
Doyle with his 15.2 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9?
B Davis with his 11.4 K/9 and 4.0 BB/9? (5th rounder)
Q Matthews with his 11.4 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9? (4th rounder)
Hjerpe with his 14.0 K/9 and 2.0 BB/9?
Mautz with his 12.8 K/9 and 2.2 BB/9? (2nd rounder)
Zack Thompson with his 13.0 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9 – This gets us back to 2016 draft-wise.So, the signings of Alonso, Diaz, and Cease mean that the Orioles, Blue Jays, and Dodgers lose a top draft pick? I thought I read that the Nets gain a post 4th round pick.
Where on gods green earth did you get those numbers Pads? I have a political fake numbers comment that I won’t say… These are last years BB9. (Hjerpe is 2024 since he was out)
Davis – 6.1
Doyle – 4.9
Hjerpe – 4.8
Mathews – 6.7BA has posted its first 2026 mock with the Cards projected to take a Stanford commit.
13. Cardinals — Tyler Spangler, SS, De La Salle HS, Concord, Calif.
I would be thrilled with Spangler as I love his power projection and he has a good hit tool. A big bodied guy, but like Witt and Gunnar Henderson he could stick at SS. I don’t think the Cards will have Spangler as a choice at #13 most likely though. Athletic, power projectable HS SS are the type that go in the first few picks
Im not a big fan of drafting high school kids unless you can prove to me they are next coming of stan the man or something close. I know being from california hes probably been tested but i still prefer college kids especially with your first pick. I know there are nuances to the draft that i dont understand and perhaps itsxa strategic option with the draft money but im just not sure.
I took a look at spangler. Its crazy how much information they have on high school kids nowadays. He does have a great swing. Hes rated 5th high schooler in tbe country based on what i saw. Now the top rated ss is actually the number 1 ranked player grady emerson. I dont know why they wouldnt look at him unless they dont figure he falls that far. He is a five tool player. Now a high school player, you typically are looking out 5- 6 years before they reach the big leagues at least if they do. Might be good to figure what we might need then. Will brick is a catcher that is starting for the 18u usa team. Seems solid. I could argue we might need that position more. He is ranked 5th so around spangler. Another player that in ways intrigues me more is cole koeninger. Hes a two way player that hits 95 on the mound. Hes ranked 8th which seems to fit that he might be there. I believe hes a shortstop as well, weird i didnt write that down. Theres some others but all these players are solid and pretty close talent wise. Bad thing is you dont know if they would even entertain the idea of playing in the minors when they all are going to college though in college as freshmen, no guarantee to play. In the minors they will get their shot. Spanglers set to go to stanford.
Well apparently emerson is the second ranked player in the draft including college so i can see why he wasnt a target. I havent paid too much attention to the draft over the years but i am a little intrigued now particularly these high school kids. It will be interesting to see how many decide to go to the mlb vs going to college. Its possible they could drop further by deciding to go to college which im assuming means less money though obviously they would in theory be better prepared. Intersting stuff regardless. Im going to look more into it far as past drafts. Ive always assumed that only the top standout players from high school would get drafted but maybe im wrong.
Well apparently the majority of high school picks go to the minors rather than go to college. I guess money is a big draw though i would think they would stand a better chance of advancing if they stayed in college and got better. 50 percent of players in minors are released within 1 to 2 years. Personally i would rather have 4 years of college ball and the experience and then 1 to 2 years of minors at the minimum.
Well apparently the majority of high school picks go to the minors rather than go to college.
If you are drafted in the first round, take the money.
Seems like it doesnt matter if its the first round, most tend to do it from what i read. If i waa a first rounder i would agree, they tend to get more chances and patience. Later though,im going to school and hope to improve and play the game longer. Plus the college baseball experience would be pretty cool.
Teams spend a lot of time in advance assessing player signability. Since slot values are known to everyone, there are few unknowns. If a player says he isn’t going to sign for what the team wants, they don’t draft him.
First round matters because it is $6 million compared to one or two mil.
I don’t really have a problem with taking HS position players in the 1st round. The risk is a little higher than college hitters for the top few guys, but not significantly higher. There is more upside with these guys typically as the incredibly athletic, project-able guys aren’t making it to college as they are 1st round picks who aren’t going to turn down $4+ million.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.