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November 11, 2025 at 12:24 pm #295694
#21 – Mason Molina
#22 – Kenly HunterThis is about where I start considering relief pitchers, but I am choosing an upside position player over more established relievers.
November 11, 2025 at 12:30 pm #29569521. Gastelum
22. KoperniakNovember 11, 2025 at 12:42 pm #295697I am beyond shocked Franklin made the top 40 let alone top 20, do results not matter now days? I could be a brilliant mathematician but if I add 2+2 and end up with 37, am I good at my job?!?
November 11, 2025 at 12:45 pm #29569821-Granillo
22-Gastelum157-Franklin
November 11, 2025 at 12:59 pm #295699
stlcard25ParticipantSo I did a little spreadsheet for myself the last couple of days. I went back through the top 50 list for the years 2017 (when the site went to 50 prospects from 40) until now. I assigned each prospect a tab, and whether they made their MLB debut, became a regular, or turned out to be a star. It was a little subjective, of course, but I defined a regular as a guy who held a starting position or bullpen role for a couple of years, and a star as a guy who made multiple All Star teams, won awards or at least got significant votes for awards in a couple of years. The buckets became a bit broad by necessity and parsing out every detail is sort of impossible. So, for example, Sam Tuivalala and Alex Reyes were both MLB debut guys but no more. Brendan Donovan and Randy Arozarena, both regulars. Sandy Alcantara and Zack Gallen, stars.
I cut out the most recent prospect classes (’22-’25) as there was a big dropoff in overall numbers in 2022. Most every prospect who will make an impact from the 2021 list, already has either made the big leagues or become what they will. A couple of stragglers are out there (looking at you, Hence), but for the most part, I feel that prospect class is complete.
I put overall numbers, and then every 10 ranks to see how likely guys are that we vote for in each round to be an MLB player, regular and star. That helps me, at least, parse out my thinking of how big a deal it really is at this point in the voting whether Tanner Franklin is #20 or #29, for example.
Here it is, by year:
2017-29 MLB players, 17 regulars, 3 stars
2018-34 MLB players, 16 regulars, 3 stars
2019-28 MLB players, 15 regulars, 1 star
2020-27 MLB players, 11 regulars, 0 stars
2021-22 MLB players, 10 regulars, 0 starsThe system really seems to have lagged, which of course jives with the idea that the Cards’ development pipeline really has fallen off. Considering that a prospect class is often 4-5 years, having 10 or so “regulars” in a year’s class sets you up for some lean times unless you’ve got deep pockets.
Now by rank, as a % time that any given prospect has made the big leagues, become a regular, become a star:
Overall: 56% MLB, 27.6% regular, 2.8% star
#1-10: 96% MLB, 62% regular, 8% star
#11-20: 68% MLB, 32% regular, 4% star
#21-30: 42% MLB, 22% regular, 0% star
#31-40: 40% MLB, 12% regular, 2% star
#41-50: 34% MLB, 10% regular, 0% starSo it seems that the rankings have generally reflected the reality pretty decently. At this point in the voting, the guys we are selecting have probably a little less than 50% chance of even making the big leagues, and only a quarter of them will be regulars at the big league level. Stardom is a little random and so I don’t think it’s really too predictable over such a sample, but I know that parsing out Chase Davis and Won-Bin Cho probably won’t really end up making much difference in the long run. There’s a solid chance that only one makes an MLB debut, and a solid chance that neither will be on the Cardinals as a regular player, and almost no chance that either will be a cornerstone.
November 11, 2025 at 1:04 pm #295700
stlcard25ParticipantThat said, my votes:
21. Won-Bin Cho
22. Zach Levenson. I like the way he finished the year off…and how he competed at the tough Peoria level as well. Being right handed will help open doors for him, which is an odd thing to say. But the system is so lefty-heavy that a right handed outfielder just needs to be competent to get a shot at the big league level. I think he’ll do well at Springfield next year and be at Memphis with a chance to be called up in 2027.
November 11, 2025 at 1:16 pm #295701#21 Leonel Sequera
#22 Andre GranilloAndre is a bit like Nathan Church in a way. The righty reliever dominated AA and AAA, but was mediocre in MLB, and kinda sorta longish in the tooth. I think Granillo should (or at least could) be a solid 7th/8th inning guy by mid 2026. If nothing else, the man has been healthy: 65 IP this year, 68 innings last season, and 52-55 innings in the two years before that.
I really like the Kenly Hunter mention above, but for me it’s still just a wee bit early for DSL guys. Not much, just a little.
November 11, 2025 at 1:22 pm #29570221 Luis Gastelum
22 Blaze JordanI cannot think of a reason not to get excited about Bryan Torres. He has some pull-side power. He can steal a base. He plays passable defense all over with CF maybe his best position. He is an emergency catcher. His 40-man spot signals those who decide seem to believe in him.
November 11, 2025 at 1:46 pm #295704Nigel, are you voting for Torres or just randomly mentioning him?
November 11, 2025 at 1:48 pm #295705I am beyond shocked Franklin made the top 40 let alone top 20, do results not matter now days? I could be a brilliant mathematician but if I add 2+2 and end up with 37, am I good at my job?!?
Yeah I had Franklin at 32 but this group seems to have a wide variety of opinions. It is interesting at least.
November 11, 2025 at 1:49 pm #29570621- Pete Hansen
22- Andre GranilloNovember 11, 2025 at 3:11 pm #295708I am beyond shocked Franklin made the top 40 let alone top 20, do results not matter now
To me it does not seem shocking for a young second round pick to be ranked based on projection before there are results to look at. How highly ranked depends on who he is up against. That said, i do not see what made Franklin a second rounder to begin with.
November 11, 2025 at 3:16 pm #295709
cardsfan64Participant#21 – Luis Gastelum
#22 – Chase DavisNovember 11, 2025 at 3:41 pm #29571121 Rincon
22 SequeraBoth have reliever risks, but I could see both as backend starters. I am concerned about the risk of Rincon being taken in the Rule 5 draft. But his late season unspoken injury might scare teams away.
November 11, 2025 at 4:09 pm #295712I’ve always been the high person on Rincon and Granillo but you folks beat me too them this year! I don’t actually have Rincon until number 30 on my list this year though. He did just re-sign a minor league deal to stick with the Cardinals as he would have been a free agent otherwise. Part of that I’m sure is his injury (whatever it is).
21. Gurevitch (my 17)
22. Granillo (my 19)November 11, 2025 at 5:33 pm #29571821 – Luis Gastelum Reliever of the year. Nice looking pitching line.
22 – Darlin Saladin Mostly because he has at least shown something, that is to say, he’s been killin’ it in the AFL this year with a .82 ERA, a 1.182 WHIP, and no HR’s allowed, even though his BB9 is sitting at 5.7. Also, Brian and Kyle raved about him in the last Wednesday with Walton and Reis discussion. For me, that countsI’ve cooled on Blaze Jordan. To me, he’s looking like a ‘1B only guy’ that doesn’t hit for enough power.
I’ve been pulling for Matt Koperniak and Bryan Torres since the Cardinals acquired them. Torres was added to the 40 man roster recently which indicates, for now at least, that they think he might be helpful. The trouble is that he’s 28 years old and turns 29 next July 2 which suggests that they’re looking at him as an ‘if needed’ guy. He could be very helpful in that role. I’d like to see Koperniak get some MLB AB’s. But he just doesn’t line up well with his competition to project a spot for him long term. Both players bat left-handed.
November 11, 2025 at 5:40 pm #295719LouisEu
Participant21 M Molina
22 A GranilloNovember 11, 2025 at 6:37 pm #29572221. Jordan
22. GastellumNovember 11, 2025 at 7:45 pm #295723#21. Zach Levenson
#22. Jack GurevitchGurevitch did not perform well in A ball, but the underlying tools are there for a great hitter and I hope to see him really step up next year in performance. The upside is there for potential starting position player which puts him over lower ceiling guys for me.
I do like seeing Granillo and Gastelum in the discussion despite not having them until my next picks. Gastelum has closer potential and despite a not great ERA, he had a fantastic year peripheral wise and I expect him to be contributing to the big league bullpen late next year.
November 11, 2025 at 7:57 pm #29572421 Levenson
22 DutkanychNovember 11, 2025 at 8:34 pm #295727I don’t know if I want to rank him yet. But if Gurevitch can be in the discusion based on his college stats. then why shouldn’t Dutkanych be in the discussion based on his college stats?
November 11, 2025 at 9:14 pm #295728I think Dutkanych is in the discussion here. I have him a handful of places further back but only a handful. He’s got both big upside and downside. Gurevich is a bit higher for me only because his floor is a lot higher given the injury risk on Dutkanych.
November 11, 2025 at 10:06 pm #29573121 Gastelum
22 GranilloNovember 12, 2025 at 1:03 am #295732Bling, respect you 2000000%, but an awful draft pick at that spot and he gets zero credit after beyond horrible college numbers… Franklin is behind a few posters on here as of now. Hope I’m proven wrong though.
November 12, 2025 at 8:14 am #295743PadsFS
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