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I think they will go with the kids for pithcing just like the outfield. I don’t see them adding Odirizzi or anyone else. If Martinez or Mikolas can’t cut it because of health or poor performance they have DeLeon, Gant, Helsey, Reyes, Cabrarra, etc. They’ll us those and I’d be surprised if they make any humdinger move at the deadline. The rotation and the bullpen are somewhere on the current roster.
I wonder if Schildt is setting things up for a Carpenter rebound. If Carpenter were to have the spring training of all spring trainings and come out looking like Lou Gehrig then he’d be the 2nd basesman and Edman would go back to being the super sub.
Simple g:
I want Tatis the superstar. As for DeJong I’m not a big fan. He’s pedestrian at best. And Yes, after we get Tatis we need to go after another big star for the outfield. We have two big stars…we need four, then fill in with minimum wage guys.
You’re right, Brian, and I hope it didn’t put any pressure on the kid. I think Mo was just trying to show Carlson that the Cardinals have great hope for him and great confidence in him. Sometimes Mo is too liberal with his praise for individuals and the team. He means well but should think before he speaks sometimes.
I’m going to throw in Helsey and I think they’ll be ready for the plucking. Mo, has no doubt read my proposal and he’s on the phone to San Diego making a pitch for my deal. Junior will have to offer a twelve year deal at 38 million a year and if he does then we’ll be ready to play with the big boys.
Okay, the Arenado trade was a very good move. But you can’t stop there. We need more offense and here’s how to get it.
Flaherty, Cabrarra and De Jong for Tatis Jr. Make the deal junior and if either Carlson, O’Neill or Thomas come out big then we’ll have an offense.
That’s what the Front office said they’d do…check out the youngsters. And we’ll find out which ones are keepers and kick the rest. Dumping Fowler was iron clad confirmation that they will go with what they have. I’m not much for prospects but I think this season will be interesting watching these kids play themselves on or off the team…could be a couple of stars. My money’s Carlson and Thomas.
Play Gorman at 2nd all spring. If he is tearing the cover off the ball and Edman is not then Goman is your starting 2nd baseman. Edman is the perfect utility guy.
Brian:
Clever as always. My point was actually, very simple. Wait until the season is played before claiming exceptionality. We need more than just Arenado.
Brian:
Touche…you got me. Glad I was wrong about 06 and 11. But yes winning the WS is the only definition of success for me. When I see a team have a parade in their town for losing the WS then I’ll consider my definition for success to be extreme.
jj:
You’re right for the salary. Some would want the Front Office to spend 20 million on a starter, not likely to happen. For me, I would’ve passed on Wainwright and put Ponce in the rotation. But IF he stays healthy and he can still pitch then it’s a bargain.
90 wins? Because of one acquisition? A good acquisition to be sure…an all-star but there are still many holes in the Cardinals roster. Win the division? Probably but we need to play the season first.
Carlson is an easy choice and I’ll take him.
A more daring choice for me is Thomas. If they don’t waste his potential starts with Bader he could break out.No, Brian I don’t think it aged badly. Now, Arenado was a pleasant surprise and he will certainly help but they need much more than just him. Mo said the heavy lifting is over. That’s the problem every year. They make one move and quit. That won’t get the WS. You can’t take your foot off the accelerator if you expect to get anywhere. So, no, I have never been proven wrong. I’ve predicted failure ever year since the early teens and they haven’t won the WS. I was right all along. Show me a WS trophy then I will be wrong.
No Shaikin, Kershaw doesn’t get it. He works for a billion dollar team that can throw money away and still make a profit. There is only so much good talent in baseball and the players go for the team with the most money. The Pirates and Reds and ohters can’t spend like the Dodgers. If the players are going to whine about a floor figure then give us a ceiling. If they want a 100 million dollar floor then there has to be a 150 million dollar ceiling. The players can’t have it there way only.
Pugs:
Take a breath…Arenado was a great addition. This kid may flop like most prospects, Fowler was paid to just go away, no one else wanted Molina or Wainwright so they came crawling back here. Mo is hardly a front office legend for a couple of moves and I don’t see Branch Rickey soiling himself in amazement. Everyone should probably scale back the euphoria a little and play out the season.
The Arenado trade was the best news this off season but getting Fowler off the team is Heaven sent. What great news! Now, trade Bader next.
If they get a starter…okay but I hope they left enough money for another quality bat. They have exactly TWO proven hitters on this roster right now. Fingers crossed.
Stlcard
I was being ludicrous ( short trip for me) but now it could turn out to be my greatest call ever. I sure hope it happens. The opt out doesn’t bother me. I can’t see any team giving him more than 35 million. We’ll see. Now, I have to say this because it;ls true. They can’t stop now. Arenado and Goldschmidt are not enoogh to win the WS. They need to add more offense. This is a good start but you can’t put on the brakes. Those on here who work for the Cardinal’s intelligence division need to convey this to Junior.
