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I see little or no action this winter.
The infield is set with Carpenter, DeJong, Wong, Goildschmidt and Molina
That leaves the outfield…with Ozuna gone we have O’neil, Bader, Fowler, Arozorena and Martinez. I suppose Edman will be in the outfield, which leaves two guys out of that bag of crap will be starting on opening day. If Fowler is in the opening day lineup then I give up.
Trade him while he has any value at all.
Congratulations to the Nationals. They played well.
Congratulations to junior for drawing 3.4 million. I know he’s happy.
Pugsley:
Two things:
1. It IS over.
2. The Red Sox came back from a 3-0 deficit. The difference being the Red Sox were actually a good team. The Cardinals are not.gscottar:
You are right about the front office and payroll. Sadly, incremental will not win the World Series.
Unless they win the World Series then the playoff run is worthless. You’re right, 858, Junior had his 3.4 million and that’s all he wanted. They’ll do nothing and they can justify it.
Discouraging to be sure. If we can’t beat Sanchez then how can we beat Sherzer, Strasburg or Corbin? I hope it’s not a sweep.
Against Sherzer or Strasburg? Hmmmmm.
Look, there will never be a blow things up and rebuild. Junior is a weak baseball man but a brilliant businessman. He bought the team for a song and now it is a billion dollar business. He doesn’t care about metrics advanced or otherwise. He doesn’t care who the manager is and he doesn’t care what the fans think. He cares about ONE thing…3.4. If they sell 3.4 every year there will be a LARGE profit.
Rebuilding will see 3.4 drop to 2.7 or who knows how low. If they keep nearly everyone and tweak every year, they’ll always be around in September and who knows if a miracle might happen sometime. It’s like throwing a life preserver to someone in the ocean but there’s no rope attached to it. They can hang on and not drown but they’ll never get anywhere. That’s the Cardinals..they’ll usually make a move in the off-season but only one. They put on the brakes and that guarantees perpetual mediocrity. But…no rebuild.Instead of slightly changing the logo let’s drastically change the team from the front office down.
stlCard:
I hope you’re right but unfortunately, I think there is a good chance that the offense HAS already hit its stride.
Two things:
1. Bumgarner, supposedly, and the emphasis is on supposedly, does not want to play for St. Louis.
2. He will likley get a substantial salary for a lengthy contract. Junior is not interested in that. ( Hint: don’t confuse the Goldschmidt deal with a trend for the future.). They’ll fill any rotation opening next year with a minimum wage guy from Memphis. End of anticipation for a big deal for a starter this winter. You’re welcome.Kids:
I could have told you they weren’t going to do anything. All you had to do was to listen Mo when he spoke a few weeks ago and said they had made some trades in the past that didn’t work out and they had made trades just for the sake of making trades. You have to understand Mo speak. Junior sent him out to get the fans ready for no significant action at the deadline. He said it plainly…you should have seen that. Now, any other team in baseball that wants to make an impact deal can but for some reason the Cardinals are unable to do that. Many Cardinal fans are just stupid enough to believe Mo when he puts out his BS. When Mo says they were unable to match up with another team it means they never tried because they never intended to try because Junior said I’m not spending any of my money so forget it. As it happens they are right there in the thick of things and the Cubs and Brewers are as bad as the Cardinals so, we might sneak in the playoffs. Good luck to them.
gscottar:
That is sobering and depressing. There is really nothing to look forward to with this organization except perpetual mediocrity.
This may be in the wrong place but I couldn’t find a thread for Ozuna’s. How long does it take for fractured fingers to heal?
I can watch the Cardinals but what I can’t watch withot vomiting is Mozeliak and his line of BS about how he is excited about the team every year.
Schildt, Maddux and company are going nowhere. You’ll need to learn to live with it.
Interesting.
Stpcard:
What do you mean by gutless?
My son was over for my birthday and when he saw Ozuna’s throw on Yellich’s ball he said,”why is he even on the team?” I explained the details but for me when I saw the throw all I could do was laugh uncontrollably. I’m old and in my youth we would have said he throws like a girl. He’s hurt and he’s doing the best he can but it is bad. He could cost us many games before the season is over and will. What do you do? Bench him for O’Neill? That will never happen. Unless he goes on the DL for sixty days he will be playing left field and unleashing those comical throws all year. No error was charged but he should not be playing in left field or anywhere until he is healthy and he is clearly not healthy. The Cardinals have some things to talk about but the Fowler and Ozuna deals have put them in a bind and there is no easy way out short of eating about 64 million dollars. I hope things get better…soon. Maybe they’ll sweep the Pirates and come home and contiue on a long winning streak. Hope springs eternal for me because I am nervous about the 25 man roster.
1982willie:
Makes sense.
Unless I’m mistaken, there are 159 games left in the regular season. You guys need to wait. I don’t reach a determination on the season until my wedding anniversary…June 14. Give it some time. A guy like Goldschmidt can win games by himself and keep you close. Don’t panic…there’s plenty of time for that later.
Bicyclemike:
Gee, thanks. That is about the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.
I wish they’d leave baseball alone. It used to be a great game. Eventually they will have multi-ball as the final death of the sport.
Nigel T:
Clever foray into philosophy/therapy…funny.
The fact that Bader, Wong, Fowler and Ozuna suck at hitting is a virtual metaphysical certainty.
And, I wouldbn’t call anything said on this forum as “intellectual.”
No Wong can not hit and never will.
Ozuna will repeat last year’s performance
Fowler is a slug and will flop like last year.
Now, Goldschmidt will have a good year and we’ll need it.
