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Steve60:
DeJong will play all year. Contracts play…they have for decades.
Carpenter, well, that’s different. He’ll sit against left handers but he’ll play much of the time unless as Blingboy said…there is some fantastic kid who is hall-of-fame material. 18 million dollars will play.This a .500 franchise. Not bad but not great. It won’t be a turkey like the Pirates but it’ll never be a juggernaut.This ownerhship group will always put a competitive team out there but never a powerhouse. Obviously 3.4 million people every year are happy with mediocrity and that’s all Junior needs to hear. There’s no pressure on Junior to do anything. I wouldn’t if I were him. He’s raking in millions every year. He’s not much of a baseball man but he is the shrewdest businessman in Baseball. If you’re a Cardinal fan and I have been for 57 years, this is the type of team you will always see with this ownership group. Get used to it and be happy.
There could be some posturing but most of all it is Mo saying what I said before the season started. It’s a throw away year. No moves at the deadline, see what we have in the minors and start again in 22. 2021 is not likely to be a year to remember…get over it and move forward.
I’ll never be done rooting for the Cardinals. I am done having any confidence in the front office’s desire or ability to do what is necessary to win a World Series.
Interesting points and not without merit. Thanks for answering my questions. Have a good day one and all.
Brian:
I hope you will forgive me but you answered your own question. Yes, the last 18 games mean more than a decade of success. He was a great hitter once…one of the best in baseball but that was then and this is now. Can he turn things around and start producing? Yes, certainly and I think he may pick it up but not because he has silver slugger awards and all-star appearances. It will be because he still has something left in the tank. Now, I have to say that if he IS fading and he doesn’t come around and produce…it will be a long year of frustration and failure. Fingers crossed that its not yet another bad contract.
I agree with Uncle Denny. I don’t think they’ll want Carlson to feel too much pressure early and O’Neill had a better spring. The guy who is out of place is DeJong. He should be in the 7th spot.
I have a different view of Bader’s misfortune. I never thought he was very good anyway so for me it’s not a big loss. It will not be a big drop off in defense. It will be a huge, huge upgrade to the offense. If they had started Bader on opening day I was prepared to vomit. Now, I don’t have to so, that’s good.
Pads
Haven’t you heard? The Cardinals said that Carpenter will be a semi-night contributor and an impact bat off the bench.
The perfect lineup as long as Bader and Carpenter never get a start and both are gone very soon. Platoon Thomas and Williams with Dean and Nogowski on the bench.
Carpenter has been a good player for several years but not anymore. The sad thing is, he’ll be on the opening day roster. A player will be at Memphis who could help the Cardinals but instead the big team will be stuck with someone who can’t do much of anything at all.
There have been plenty of throw away seasons for BDWJr. 2021 is just the latest. If they were intent on winning the WS they would’ve acquired two top flight outfielders who were major offensive producers. But, no they did the logical thing and will spend the year looking at 6 or 7 possibilities and deciding which ones are keepers. Then if they are serious about winning the WS in off season, they will get another player the caliber of Arenado…another all-star…another superstar. Otherwise they’re just content to compete for the division, slip into the playoffs on the last day of the season and have the team watch the WS on televison.
It was a risk they had to take and it was a good risk. They can’t/won’t go out this coming off-season and get three outfielders. 2021 is a throw away season and when it’s over they’ll know which of the kids can be starters. Then they can go get one or two slugger outfielders to be ready for 2022. It’s all part of the plan.
I think they will go with the kids for pithcing just like the outfield. I don’t see them adding Odirizzi or anyone else. If Martinez or Mikolas can’t cut it because of health or poor performance they have DeLeon, Gant, Helsey, Reyes, Cabrarra, etc. They’ll us those and I’d be surprised if they make any humdinger move at the deadline. The rotation and the bullpen are somewhere on the current roster.
I wonder if Schildt is setting things up for a Carpenter rebound. If Carpenter were to have the spring training of all spring trainings and come out looking like Lou Gehrig then he’d be the 2nd basesman and Edman would go back to being the super sub.
Simple g:
I want Tatis the superstar. As for DeJong I’m not a big fan. He’s pedestrian at best. And Yes, after we get Tatis we need to go after another big star for the outfield. We have two big stars…we need four, then fill in with minimum wage guys.
You’re right, Brian, and I hope it didn’t put any pressure on the kid. I think Mo was just trying to show Carlson that the Cardinals have great hope for him and great confidence in him. Sometimes Mo is too liberal with his praise for individuals and the team. He means well but should think before he speaks sometimes.
I’m going to throw in Helsey and I think they’ll be ready for the plucking. Mo, has no doubt read my proposal and he’s on the phone to San Diego making a pitch for my deal. Junior will have to offer a twelve year deal at 38 million a year and if he does then we’ll be ready to play with the big boys.
