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Harmony,
Arroyo and Cijinte and you get Donnie, Jojo AND Obrien back!Deal? I backed off on Sloan, but Arroyo has to be in it.
I don’t get to make major decisions in my household much less major decisions for the Seattle front office.
Regardless, that offer would be tempting.
That might create 40-man roster issues for the Mariners.
Yeah but there also was a 1.7 WAR improvement from Gscottar as well over Walker
ATM, I am not sure I understand that sentence.
I think he’s referring to gscottar being worth 0 WAR sitting in his chair watching the games, and Walker was worth -1.7 actually playing.
I don’t want a switch pitcher. I just don’t feel like a prospect should not developed like that. Concentrating on one arm would make me feel more comfortable. History shows his chances of continuing switch pitch are unlikely.
Seattle reportedly is developing Jurrangelo Cijntje as a right-handed starting pitcher.
Cijntje might be a higher-ranked prospect if he had never been labeled a switch-pitcher.
Some swith-hitters abandon one side if the results demand the change. Some players are developed for one role before being moved to different role.
Cijntje was drafted only 18 months ago and probably is not a finished product despite a possible MLB debut this season.
Waiting til the deadline may pay dividends for both teams. Seattle could see how their prospects are doing, how Donovan is doing and how the team is faring in the standings. The Cards could see how Cijntje, Sloan or others are doing and how Donovan might be valued at the time. It’s very possible that the Mariners could get adequate production from their youngsters, or that Cijntje or Sloan scuffle and no longer have the prospect shine they do now. It’s also very possible that Donovan is an All Star again, or that he has an injury plagued year, which will impact the return. I don’t think either team has a huge downside. The Mariners upside could be a World Series, and the Cards’ upside could be as well. The Mariners have an open window now and possible into the near and mid term future, while the Cardinals don’t have an open window for at least a couple of years.
Waiting until the deadline is extremely risky on the Cards part for Donnie as well as Jojo and Obrien.
Injuries and declines happen…. Sell high while they can.
See: Helsley, Ryan
There’s something that has me puzzled. The Cardinals have said they want to look at their prospects in 26 to see what they have. But, if they do nothing else, i.e. they do not trade anyone else the opening day lineup will be Burleson at first, Donovan at second, Wynn at short, Gorman at third, Nootbar in left, Scott in center, Walker in right and Pages behind plate. Where will the prospects play?
Nathan my thinking about their thinking is we don’t have any prospects who will be ready for MLB on opening day. They hope some will play their way to MLB, and the idea is they don’t want contract guys in their way. The current players you mention can be traded or sat down when and if the need arises.
I think what the Cardinals have said is that they want to play younger players. They may not be defined as a prospect.
Shouldn’t that mean they should lock up some of the younger guys that are pieces of the long-term future? Winn, Herrera, JJW, maybe even Libby. Instead of ramping up contracts, start high and have it even out over the term so they have extra “dry powder” in 28-32 for example.
You can’t take it with ya Dewallet!
Donny, JoJo and Pages
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Payton Tolle and Jhonstyxnox GarciaBTV has the BOS pair at 44.4 and us sending 44.8
Shouldn’t that mean they should lock up some of the younger guys that are pieces of the long-term future? Winn, Herrera, JJW, maybe even Libby. Instead of ramping up contracts, start high and have it even out over the term so they have extra “dry powder” in 28-32 for example.
Yes they should. Even the Moneyball A’s are doing that in anticipation of ermerging from their latest rebuild.
The Athletics have now spent $281.5 million on contract extensions just in the last 11 months: Jacob Wilson ($70M), Lawrence Butler ($65.5M), Brent Rooker ($60M) and Tyler Soderstrom ($86M).
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) January 30, 2026
Our budget is so low, front loading would be the way to go on extensions, for futures reasoning you mentioned.
But, “NEXT” has been built on trading arb guys before free agency, so extensions will need to develop a recent history.
What would those extensions look like?
If a guy was projected for X over 6, then divide by 6 aka equal amounts all 6, then 2 options with a buyout, that seems fair I just don’t know how one would project arb years 1-3.
Donny, JoJo and Pages
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Payton Tolle and Jhonstyxnox GarciaBTV has the BOS pair at 44.4 and us sending 44.8
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The Boston Red Sox traded Jhostynxon García to the Pittsburgh Pirates on December 4:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/47205963/pirates-send-johan-oviedo-red-sox-five-player-trade
Figures, thanks. I had 2 surgeries in Dec, I guess I missed that trade! Lol. When they knock you out, you’re a goner!
Now what can we get for Romero? Hopefully a young lefty reliever? Nootbaars trade I think may have to wait. He is not supposed to be ready for Spring Training,right?
“Short-term sacrifices” turned out to be more than a slogan this winter. By early February it already looks like an executed game plan. Nice change from last winter. Next.
Who is next out the door?
1yr control: 2026
Romero- full value
May & Stanek- 2027 options and can’t be traded until mid-June2yrs control: 2026-2027
Nootbaar- half value until proven healthy and productive3yrs control: 2026-2028
Pallante- innings eater, limited value
Gorman- limited bench value
Burly- full valueJoJo, Pallante and Gorman currently could be NEXT. All three have arb salaries.
Noot, D May and Stanek as deadline decisions.
Burly could be an extension candidate, but for now, HOLD, plug and play.With just 6 players due to be free agents (excluding Burly for now) the next three seasons, we have “traded back” the majority of “short-term sacrifices” that have better than reliever, bench, and back of the rotation value.
If Gorman and Pallante step forward in 26′ it changes their story line. If not, their arb tender decisions are questionable for 2027.
That is a good summary, JJ. Gorman and Pallante are on the clock now. Walker will be next year. It’s time to perform or get cut.
Great summarization!
Noot definitely needs to prove his health before getting anything even close to fair value.
If a team views Pallante as a #5-8 SP and will give up a lottery ticket, take it all day and twice on Sundays. SP ain’t cheap…. So it’s possible.
Jojo has had crickets it seems, I just hope a contender has LHRP/RP/Late Innings needs in ST or early in the season and willing to meet the asking price.Hopeful May stays healthy and needs to be traded to make room for Mathews.
In my opinion the only two potentially to be traded before the season are Jo Jo and Noot. Crooks is a slight possibility if only to thin out the bloated catcher ranks.
Gorman, Walker, and Pallante are apparently going to get another prove it year but the plank they are walking is getting shorter.
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