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December 15, 2025 at 8:24 am #297598
Not that he is a fit, but ouch anyway!
Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals— Underdog MLB (@UnderdogMLB) December 15, 2025
December 15, 2025 at 9:47 am #297605
stlcard25ParticipantWe finished 2nd to the Yankees once again on the no trade list, looks like.
December 15, 2025 at 10:56 am #297613
jj-cf-stlParticipantHow well do you prospect guys like LAA 2B/OF RHB Christian Moore? The Angels have one lefty bat (1B).
Should we like Moore in the Gorman, Scott or Church range? How would Moore vs Saggese value look?December 15, 2025 at 11:33 am #297620Lets be clear about Moore. He’s not an outfielder. Right side arm, has played LF on occasion. Strikes out a lot, in MLB and AAA. Looks like he can’t hit RHP at all. Not sure what his 2B defense looks like.
December 15, 2025 at 11:34 am #297621What about Angel’s prospect Caden Dana RHP?
December 15, 2025 at 11:41 am #297622Christian Moore was spectacular in the College World Series in 2024 – by far the best player of the tournament (offensively, defensively it was Cam Smith). But the Angels did what the Angels do, which is rushed him to MLB in one year. Can’t understand why they think that is a viable strategy.
December 15, 2025 at 11:44 am #297623I am pretty certain I don’t care as much about defense on a pretty bad team.
A big part of the reason the Cardinals have been bad the last few years is that they have fielded two of the worst defensive outfielders in the game (Burleson and Walker) on a consistent basis.
December 15, 2025 at 12:48 pm #297629LA, they were also 2nd to last in HR’s…. Hard to mount a comeback if you can’t score a couple quickly.
Especially for 2026, I could care less than zero about “defense”. You can not win a baseball game if you don’t score a single run. Undeniable fact.
December 15, 2025 at 12:57 pm #297631And 6th worse in OPS, none that were close made the playoffs FYI. You can miss a fly ball, but if you hit a 3R HR the next inning, you win typically.
A crap team doesn’t need “good defense”…. Hit and then worry about defense
December 15, 2025 at 2:38 pm #297641
jj-cf-stlParticipantThanks Bling and LA. I agree the Angels rushed Moore, But didn’t know if he would be redundent with Sagesse or much better.
I know the world has Nado going to the LAA as a best case, but I was considering Gorman from our lefties depth.December 15, 2025 at 3:08 pm #297645Well Adolis Garcia has signed with the Phillies for 1yr/$10M so we can scratch him off of the list.
December 15, 2025 at 4:10 pm #297653Can Andujar play the outfield ? His bat is good.
December 15, 2025 at 5:10 pm #297657Yes, left field and 3B is what he listed as playing but not sure about his defense.
December 15, 2025 at 5:36 pm #297659C27, he can actually hit so he will be fine in LF. If Noot gets back he can play RF.
2/10 with several incentives seems fair.
December 16, 2025 at 10:57 am #297690I like Andujar a lot. He would be a good fit.
I also like Refsnyder. He mashes LH pitching.
https://www.justbaseball.com/mlb/rob-refsnyder-projections-2026-free-agent/
December 16, 2025 at 12:45 pm #297697I never realized how much Romero, Nootbaar, and Donovan make in salary. But with the exception of Donovan, the salaries seem higher than their value. You could make an argument for Romero too, but a lefty reliever I’d say no, but if he is a closer he’s underpaid. Just thoughts off the top of my head.
December 16, 2025 at 3:06 pm #297700I also like Refsnyder. He mashes LH pitching.
The Cardinals would actually have a decent team if they acquired Refsnyder for LF, brought back Abreu as part of a Donovan + Contreras trade to Boston, and then signed a pitcher like Littell in free agency.
December 16, 2025 at 3:42 pm #297701I agree LA. Refsnyder and Abreu would be an upgrade over Noot and Walker.
December 17, 2025 at 2:59 pm #297735Jeff Passan @JeffPassan36m
Beat Writer / Columnist
Dustin May’s deal with the St. Louis Cardinals is official, sources tell ESPN. He will make $12.5 million this year, and the mutual option for the 2027 season is for $20 million.December 18, 2025 at 8:29 am #29778314NyquisT
ParticipantDoes the FO think that this is the final answer to fix up the rotation???
December 18, 2025 at 9:54 am #297792Until they are done trading, no one knows.
December 18, 2025 at 3:29 pm #297821Bullpen projections anyone?
Mine are:
Svanson
Graceffo
Fernandez
Pushard
O’Brien
Granillo
Lefty
LeftySvanson
Graceffo
Fernandez
Pushard
O’Brien
Pallante
Lefty
LeftySvanson
Graceffo
Granillo
Pushard
O’Brien
Leahy
Lefty
LeftyDecember 18, 2025 at 3:44 pm #297823Does the FO think that this is the final answer to fix up the rotation???
Cardinals Still Looking for Rotation Help
According to MLBTR, the Cardinals are still looking for a starter
December 18, 2025 at 4:49 pm #297829LA, I didn’t look for it, but I did do a run down with May and others inning projections(before any news).
What that determined was they need two more SP(after the May signing) simply to cover innings and 2-3 LHRP. It might be ground hogs day before we have actual answers unfortunately.
December 18, 2025 at 5:05 pm #297832I thought they were going to rebuild or refit, whatever you wish to call it. Why sign outside players that will take away chances to look at youngsters. To top it off they signed a mediocre to bad pitcher in May. If you’re going to add a pitcher then at least sign someone who is actually “good.” I read and heard how they were going to hit the ground running. I guess one could interpret what they have done so far as hitting the ground running if one is running in place or on a treadmill. For me it should mean accomplishing something. Maybe there are deals just waiting to be announced and I hope there are but the new POBO is looking like Mo junior.
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