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    Contreras, as a 30 year old catcher, isn’t going to cost a team a king’s ransom, Bling. He would be a beautiful two year solution for us until Herrera was ready to take over the reigns. Without looking, I’m thinking a team could get Contreras signed for about 3 @ 40MM

    I’ll pass on Contreras. He can hit, but there’s a reason he is DH a lot. He’s not much defending. And as I’ve said in other posts, the extra playoff teams could make this trade deadline prices much higher. There could be 16-20 buyers, with 2-4 of them maybe being more standing pat, leaving only 10 sellers. The teams that are bottom 5 in their league obviously aren’t real good teams and for a reason. So quality players are going to have many teams calling for them and the trade returns this year could be much much higher than anything we’ve seen previously.
    I also think Contreras as a free agent will probably get 4 years and $70-80 million. Pitching is MUCH more of an issue than catcher right now.

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    Contreras is not good defensively though.
    Carlson is 23 and I’ll take him any day over O’Neill, and especially in 3 years when Carlson will be 26 and O’Neill 30. People turning on Carlson quickly reminds me how fast everyone turned on Drew and then he turned into the player a lot of people wanted, but I won’t complain about the trade that brought Wainwright.
    Edman needs to stay in the IF.
    2023
    1. Edman SS
    2. Donovan LF/UT
    3. Goldschmidt 1B
    4. Arenado 3B
    5. Gorman 2B
    6. Carlson RF
    7. Burleson/Yepez DH/LF
    8. Knizner/Herrera C
    9. Bader CF
    ? IF, ? Utility, Burleson/Yepez, Knizner/Herrera
    Gone: Pujols (retire), Molina (retire), Sosa (trade), O’Neill (trade), Dickerson (FA), DeJong (trade), Nootbaar (trade)
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    ???- how soon does Walker start entering the question of when he’s ready and when does he start play LF/RF to find him a position?

    2024
    1. Edman SS
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    3. Goldschmidt 1B – last year on deal
    4. Arenado 3B
    5. Gorman 2B
    6. Carlson RF
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    8. Knizner/Herrera C
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    ? – decision will have to be made on Bader
    ? – is Winn ready? Has he moved to CF? Leave him at SS, Edman position??
    ? – Where’s Walker? What position is he able to play?
    ? – How are Burleson, Yepez, Donovan still playing and factors in to the future?

    Things have a way of working themselves out and I’m happy with a lot of the youth they have right now, and hope they don’t sacrifice to much of it to add pitching.

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    Don’t get to far ahead of yourself. Things have a way of working themselves out, and way more prospects flame out than make it. Players age, get hurt and aren’t the same. The offense now is pretty darn good, just hope the pitching is helped. And you’ve got 2 guys in positions they’ve yet to play an inning at.

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    When they are conditioned for years that they are 1 inning, 20-25 pitch guys. Then yes 40 pitches is a lot and you could see him tiring and then hangs a slider.
    If Cabrera is healthy you know it’s 1 inning each for the 3 of them. But they ask for more out of the other 2 because they have nobody else that is trusted. They’ve got to put trust in someone or find someone else they can trust.

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    Hopefully if they do trade Yepez it is in a package for a starter (Montas or Castillo

    I wouldn’t move Yepez. He and Burleson would be my LF or DH options next season. Obviously a sweet enough deal changes my mind, but realistically I’m holding on to him.
    Also, I’d have no interest in Castillo. I don’t know much about him, but he’s always crossed me as “me first” type guy and not a guy who would embrace the Cardinal way. I could be wrong, but there’s a reason a guy like Tommy Pham was traded when he was having the seasons he was in STL and the return was as light as it was for that type player. He’s a clubhouse cancer and they wanted him gone, and it’s come to light much more since leaving STL. I could be wrong with Castillo, but just the way he seems to me, like Cueto.

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    Why the hell is Sosa pinch running too. He’s proven many times he’s not a good base runner and just about cost them a base runner there dancing around.

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    Not Gio’s fault they are asking him to throw 40 pitches and go 2 innings instead of having more than 3, now 2 with Cabrera out, pitchers that can get outs. The Cubs are terrible and I’d take Wick or Martin or definitely Effross or Robertson over most of the Cardinal relievers.

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    He wasn’t drafted as a Catcher. At Illinois State as a Freshman he played 8 C, 30 2B, 2 SS. As a Sophomore he played 6 C, 34 2B, 19 3B, 2 SS. Then summer league was primarily a 3B, getting some time in RF and 2B. As a Junior he played 15 C, 27 2B, 20 3B, 4 RF. After his Jr. year is when he was drafted by the cardinals and has NEVER caught again and was primarily a 3B (some 2B and SS) until 2017 when he was moved to SS and also the year he made his MLB debut and has been almost solely a SS except for that 2017 year when he saw some time at 2B.
    Don’t listen to Dan’s stories about how he was a Catcher in college and moved to SS. Yes he did some catching in college, but has always been an IF, and if he’s back in a St. Louis Cardinals uniform this season it’s probably as a utility IF because they trade Sosa to get help in this terrible and thin bullpen.

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    Donovan on 3-2 strikes out looking and the Cards rookie doesn’t like the call at all….and for good reason.

    That was no joke. That ball was at least 4 inches outside. Hendricks had gotten a lot of called strikes well out of the zone on both sides, up, and down. There was a called strike 1 on a curveball to Knizner earlier in the game the was well high.

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    The thing that’s going to be interesting as the deadline nears is what the extra playoff teams do to the trade market.
    There are going to be way more buyers than sellers, so it’s probably going to be like the used car market right now. Not a lot available, and what’s nice is going to cost a heck of a lot. Realistically there are probably going to be 5 sellers from each league, and obviously those teams are losing for a reason and valuable players aren’t going to be readily available and I think the selling teams are going to be able to ask for higher returns than they have previously.

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    Jeez! I thought Dan annoyed me. This game is going to be watched on mute!! Luckily the wife is an apple phone user and was able to use her ID to log in to watch, but definitely not listen. Dan, I’ll never speak ill of you again.

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    I don’t know how he grades out defensively. To me there is quite a bit of work to do. He’s not real smooth back there, and that’s not comparing him to Molinaz, that’s comparing him to Knizner. His D doesn’t look bad, but he’s clearly going to have to hit and isn’t a defensive first catcher.

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    I know there has been lots of talk about getting rid of DeJong, but I really think his contract is going to prohibit that. He has the ability to play 2B and 3B, and play by far mostly 3B in the minors. I wondered if they would include Sosa in a trade to beef up the pen, and bring DeJong back up as a utility IF.

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    Sosa hasn’t done anything to deserve to play more, not like he’s hitting. Sosa is no more than Aledmys Diaz to me. Nothing wrong with that, there is a role for that and a chance to make a good living and decent MLB career of it. Sosa isn’t going to be a consistent MLB starter. And Edman doesn’t need to be in the OF. He’s the SS and shouldn’t be moving elsewhere.

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    Keith only knows Jason is a chucker

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    Yepez is playing LF again???

    If you can hit they will find a place for you to play. His bat has to be in the lineup. Is he better off at 1B or DH? Clearly. But Oli must want to DH Arenado today, meaning Yepez has to play LF. A lot like Allen Craig was. He wasn’t much of an OF at all, but he wasn’t playing 1B with Pujols and his bat was too good not to have in the lineup. Start him, give him 3 AB’s, defensive sub late.

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    I would rather flip flop Gorman and Donovan in the batting order but oh well.

    Couldn’t agree more!

    As for Nootbaar. He’s definitely got some talent, but struggling this year. He was rushed up last year out of necessity. He was drafted in 2018 made it to AA in 2019, missed 2020, even spending time in AAA this year he only has 52 games and 180 PA in AAA. But I also believe his time with St. Louis could be numbered as the need for pitching is there and Burleson is waiting in AAA. But then again Nootbaar plays much better defense than Burleson and Yepez and they may not move him.

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    Walker hasn’t seen any time in the OF yet, but I agree they probably need to start exploring the idea sooner rather than later, unless they just don’t think he can do it, then he’s going to be limited to DH for awhile.

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    KC wouldn’t do that. Staumont’s value is high. That trade simulator often referenced on here has his value at 20. And while I think that’s high it’s going to take quite a bit to get KC to part, with his last 3 seasons and hasn’t reached arbitration yet. But I agree Nootbaar is a fit, but way more than Fernandez, more like Woodford and Oviedo/Rondon….And that simulator still says I’m WAY light. Fernandez probably paired with a low level guy could bring a David Robertson, which I wouldn’t mind if the Cubs want to help us out. I do worry what the BB% could be though with Staumont and Robertson, but at least they miss barrels our current middle relievers can’t do at all.
    But I agree, they need to find takers or cut ties with McFarland, Wittgren, VerHagen and have something like

    Mikolas, Wainwright, Flaherty, Hudson, Pallante
    Thompson(L), Hicks, Robertson, Chafin(L), Staumont, Cabrera(L), Gallegos, Helsley

    ? – Matz(L)

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    Still say DeJong and a prospect to Detroit for Andrew Chafin. Detroit has absolutely no production in their IF and could possibly be willing to take a chance on DeJong. He could move to 2B or 3b for them or play SS and move Baez off SS. Just a matter of what kind of prospect it would take for them to take that chance. Could then cut ties with McFarland or maybe Detroit would take him on too.

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    Kinda figured something was up when he was moved from 1B to DH shortly before last night’s game started.
    Been on the road for work all day and just got home. Going to grab dinner with my dad while he’s in town and should be home just in time to catch the game.

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    Somebody tell Dan Ashby was put on the IL today and won’t be starting tomorrow night.

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    Thanks, I think. It might mean I spend too much time watching and reading and looking at stats. In middle school I started playing a game with myself where every morning I’d look at the pitching match up and try to guess LaRussa’s lineup. Every day was worth “18 points”, a point for each correct player in the correct spot on the lineup and 1 point for each correct player in the defensive position. I did this for years, even into adulthood, and was just a fun little game I played. It was harder there for awhile when Tony would randomly hit the pitcher 8th. So maybe it’s just years of repetition.

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    For the 1000th time – THE MANAGER DOES NOT SET THE ROSTER.

    So, is this a criticize the front office thread or a criticize the manager thread?

    Hire Joe Maddon! Hire Joe Girardi! Hire anyone fired by another team! Sheesh!

    I have no desire for Maddon or Girardi now. Would have been on board with either in 2012 when Tony retired. Which brings me to the roster. You can’t tell me Tony didn’t have serious input on his roster. The new guys? Probably not much at all. Which in my opinion is why there are a lot more younger, “analytical” managers because they are just pawns of the front office playing a video game of names with numbers. I agree stats can tell a whole lot, but there’s something to chemistry, baseball knowledge, leadership that give a team an extra edge that can’t be measured in stats, and Tony always had his boys and his players. And I’ll always be way more critical of the front office, the manager is only playing with the pieces he’s given (see Torre in STL vs Torre in NY), and this team needs pen help the front office didn’t address except with Japanese cast-off and their likes.

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    I don’t think he gets the call either. Just there seems to be a chance to possibly get a look, especially with the unknown of Dickerson right now. But I’d guess Nootbaar comes back or maybe they just activate Dickerson if he’s healthy. And probably see a combination of Yepez and Donovan in LF. I think Donovan in LF, Gorman at 2B, Yepez at DH is probably what we see most.

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