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Bob, just curious… what present prospects do you think are undervalued? How about a few to prove that they are better than let’s say 20th. Maybe you are something that other Card fans aren’t recognizing.
Here I’ll help you get started…. Carlson.
It looked like Flaherty was stumbling between third and home and it still took a great throw to get him. I would have sent him, especially with Goldschmid coming up.Tough loss but a very entertaining game. Good aggressive base running and a solid offense. I can’t wait to watch today’s game. Hudson is becoming a sneaky good pitcher.
As I see it there may be a good explanation why the Card’s four full-season teams are struggling of late. Memphis has 12 players on the injured list. That is roughly a half of a 25-man roster.
(There are also 11 other full-season players on the injury list.)
This results in players coming up from Springfield that may not be ready to or able to perform at the AAA level. As the domino effect kicks in there are some players throughout the organization that are facing the same consequences. They may have needed more time at a lesser level instead of being rushed up just to be fill-ins for other players that are replacing other players. (Kruczynski-Shew-YGonzalez-Robinson) There are a lot of these situations in this category.
Palm Beach is in it’s All-Star break and their roster is at 17. By tomorrow their schedule resumes and there will need to be 8 players added to their roster… nearly a third of that team. Peoria is having its own problems and there will be more players pushed up perhaps prematurely from a (low-A) roster that offers very little as far as prospects playing well enough for promotions but may be forced upward anyway.
There will be a couple pitching draftees to supplement the full-season teams but is that something that will benefit them? The best of those at EST have already been assigned, 19 already have been moved up to the full-season teams and most of the rest to State College. Of the Spikes’ 6 INFs on their roster, none appear to be solid prospects.
The draft produced only five INFs (in the later rounds) and only three DSL INFs were brought state-side for EST. The system may need to seek out DFAs to supplement at INF spots. The organization is in a touchy area… pushing players, especially infielders, to perhaps inappropriate levels for the youngest of their prospects.
Derrick Goold – PD
“the Cardinals have traded a sensation and potential All-Star to the Yankees. They’ve moved a 5.0-WAR player to the Tampa Bay Rays, two starters for the Mariners’ rotation, and an ascending center fielder to Cleveland. In exchange, the Cardinals received a handful of players they’ve turned to for help, but most of whom were in the minors as recently as this past week, with the exception of righthanded reliever Giovanny Gallegos.”
Not being a Monday morning QB you can still look at what we have received in trades and free agency signings and see a trend towards negative results. Not by looking at one acquisition or two but by looking at a series of poor moves. The direction and culture of this team needs to be changed and the sooner the better.
This from VEB’s FAN PULSE thingy:
With just two wins in their last six games, concerns continue to mount among Cardinals fans. In the latest FanPulse survey, Cardinals fans gave a 23% confidence rating in the club. That is the lowest it has been this season and currently the second-lowest in the league.
Is this on the players or the front office?
I have no idea what the criteria is but things are changing for our farm system and there shouldn’t be too many who would place them higher than 20… at best.
I don’t follow other teams prospects other than where they have an abundance or lack of players at one position when looking at trade possibilities.
Of the top-10 TCN 5/19 ranking, other than Carlson, Woodford and Edman, the others aren’t exactly performing as elite prospects. I could see some others among the top-30 drawing merit for advancing Torner IHerrera, JuRodriguez, Sosa, Rondon and JFernandez. And a couple of moving into the top-30., Fagalde, Parsons, Seijas, Whalen and even DPerez may return.
Forgot the OF…. Selmo-Cedeno-Lott-Vinsky and Jew when/if he signs. The there might be one or two from my guesses for JC…. AnWarner Jimenez and Torres.
JCruz is a huge mystery man with two different arms. What to do?
Mm- I agree with your opinion of the umpire and that inept ground crew. The tarp was rolled up wrong and the cover wouldn’t fit over it. They’re a bunch of clowns. Its a nice day in metro NYC so the games should be played in better conditions.
It was great to see the Cards somehow score two to get us at least to the bottom of the ninth. Bader is becoming more and more valuable both ways. Fowler or Gonzalez to the bench… both are having some woes right now. Gotta go with Bader at Citibank.
Shildt is hoping that the game will be decided without going into several X-innings and won’t have to burn any more relief arms with the second game of the series following.
So far the Spike’s roster is at 17. It appears that Ps Gingery, Holba and Coward are still mending along with INF Sabino and OF Machado. There should be a number of draftees added, those of appropriate age college guys: Green-Pearce-Dulle-Sommers-Marreno-Guay-Peck and with question marks (not signed) YaSenka-Ralston-Randolph-Lex.
The catching situation will feature 6th rounder Pages,Duce and Knight as of now. No mention of Jackson. Skeels should be in that mix also.
INF looks something like Woodall-IDiaz-Castillo-and 23 rounder Ward. DGomez- Figuera-Figueroa-Redmond(not signed) Also Trosclair (if not on the IR).
They should be by now in Williamsport or State College by now or in transit.
What TCN has been saying for some time now is coming to fruition. There has been a misconception that the FO in the last several seasons has produced a farm system that is well-stocked with top prospects and elite arms when needed at the top.
The reality is that the organization is trending downward evidenced by the general lack of success at each level of the full season team. Its not just the poor W-L #s and standings but many prospects have not shown solid progression.
I get annoyed when I hear what a great minor league system that Mozeliak has put together. It would appear now that if he is not be with the team in ’20-’21-’22, his replacement will have to be someone who can revitalize the whole system. Mo will be leaving a mess to be cleaned up.
Those that follow the affiliates all love our top-10 prospects but when compared to other MLB teams they are not as great as we make them out to be.
And while I’m here… I am sick and tired of statements praising Mozeliak for what he did during the playoff streak. Well and good, but not pertinent to what the Cardinals and the affiliates look like now.
Bleacher Report has done a ranking of post-draft MLB farm systems, and the top-10 ranking for each team.
ST. Louis’ top-10 prospects
1. Gorman (TCN #1)
2. Carlson (#3)
3. Knizner (#4)
4. Helsley (#5)
5. Montero (#2)
6. Arozarena (#12)
7. Thompson (draft)
8. IHerrera (#11)
9. JTorres (#17)
10. Nunez (#7)
Reading all the comments here one would get a sense that there is increasing concerns about the general trend the organization is currently taking. The Cardinal team is becoming more and more seen as pretenders and not the contenders that management said the ’19 squad would be.
Underachievement abounds. There is complaints about players up and down the roster. And now some of these complaints are coming from several of the regs here who firmly believed that the Cards would be in the play-off mix.
Something has gone awry. Where is the desire seen on the field, where is the emotion and most importantly where is the positive leadership? Why the apathy, why the disappointment and why does this team generally seem so passive about their approach to what has happened to this team that at one point was 20-10.
Just an observation but things appeared to unravel after the May 2nd game at WAS. We won the first three of a four game set. Our manager decided to rest four starters in one game. The result was a 2-1 loss in the finale. Since then we are 12-22.
Pecota: Adj playoff probability = 27.9%. Playoff prob. difference in the last 7 days = -18.4%.
I think that the Card’s draft crew did their homework with the 3rd round pick of Tony Locey (6′-3″ at 20 years old). He just may outproduce Thompson. I’m thinking that Docey’s name will be coming up often enough in the years to come, hopefully staying in our organization.
Casadilla pitched his heart out to gain the Chiefs a split. 6.0 inn. 1 ER. It would be great to see him continue to get his confidence back and make it back onto the top prospects list soon.
Quote of the Day:
This team lacks intensity, it lacks fierceness, it lacks the killer instinct. There is no one to anchor this team. Lights are on, nobody is home. They can’t motivate themselves, and Shildt can’t motivate them. This is a talented roster. I just hope MO doesn’t panic and give away the farm for Bumgarner or Stroman. Neither of them is the answer that this team needs. This team needs a player that will start playing like he means it.
Dave… from page 1
Here are my 3 bold predictions for tonight.
1 Waino will walk under 5
2. Schildt will have an emotion
3. Cardinals will win
One out of three ain’t bad. 1 walk, no emotion no win.
I believe that this start for Wacha may be the most important for him career-wise. Here’s hoping that he can get it done. A turnaround for MW would be huge for this team. I can’t see Carlos returning to the rotation but stranger things have been happening.
Well I like the word “passive” because it defines the ’19 Cards accurately and this has been going on for the past few seasons. Graves is entitled to give his opinion regarding the Cardinals and the passivity seems to have spread to the fan base. Those that disagree with his statements have that right also but I think what he is saying rings true. Next…
Matt Graves – FanSided:
In a situation like this, something just has to change. As much as Mike Shildt can claim that everyone is good friends in the clubhouse, that hasn’t translated to on-field success where it really matters. Something has to change. That being said, if the Cardinals fired Mo tomorrow, I would get it. He built this mess, he could easily be the one who is held responsible.
Recently, Dexter Fowler was on MLB Network doing an interview and he talked about how great Mike Shildt is and how he is so good for all the players which is a great change from how it seemingly was last year. I believe Shildt is a great leader and has made the dynamic in the clubhouse extremely friendly, but is it too friendly? After losing their 5th game (out of five chances) at Wrigley yesterday when the Cardinals had a four-run first inning, the mood just seemed to be passive.
All that love that was given to Shildt when he replaced Matheny has quickly evaporated. He may be a nice person but seemingly the players and the FO walk all over him. His incapability has been exposed.
Its very evident and been picked up by the sharp folks here. Another FO blunder.
I have to go back to the time of Matheny’s firing and count all those who were elated that we had a new manager. And there was the extension, and some partisans were thrilled to the max. Happy now?
I did a preliminary of what the SS team rosters would look like…. very tentative. I just wanted to get an idea of how the rosters would be filled by numbers. I mostly used age appropriate.
State College = 23 Ps… 5 Cs… 9 INFs… 8 OFs = 45
Johnson City=== 16 Ps… 6 Cs… 7 INFs…11 OFs = 40
GCL Cardinals== 16 Ps… 2 Cs…11 INFs….4 OFs = 33
This includes a few players on IL and assumes all 40 draftees sign.
Please no kibbetzing.
No doubt Sosa is currently on a tear and hitting for power too. He has been a streaky hitter most of his career. Yay… 2 in a row for the Redbirds and 3 out of four. But they should be way better than 26-36. Ravelo continues to bash.