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ParticipantSpringfield has reeled of 6 in a row…. allowing just 7 runs (3 last night). Gallen-Hudson-Gomber-Alcantara-Ellis provide them with solid early on innings. (Pearce just moved up to Memphis.)
When Sierra returns, he’ll join Mercado and Arozarena in the OF… nice trio.
Knizner has been raking lately and the INF of Seferina-Edman-Nagowski-Wilson are all performing well.
This is a team with Alvarez and Sosa on the DL.State College is starting to get some decent pitching now, but the bottom 2 rookie team’s pitching are disasters. Much different than last season.
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ParticipantYou can close out the Martinez thread…. and I hope we can do the same with Stanton soon.
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ParticipantMets announcers kept complaining about the time spent on the Gyorko replay. MLB wants to speed up the game and institutes the one thing that causes 10-15 minutes of nothingness. Two grown men standing around with wires and etc. up their a$$e$ looking like fools. I HATE REPLAY!!!! Play the game.
Teams get 1/2 the calls in favor and 1/2 against…. in the long run it all works out it’s the nature of the game. The umpires would make sure of that. Maybe only use it in the post-season.
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ParticipantRE: YOUNG. Yeah, well let’s remember it is Palm Beach and he finished ’16 at State College and it took him some time to get going at Peoria earlier this season.
Of those drafted earlier than Young that he has surpassed level-wise 22 were college draftees (as he was), 5 were HS draftees (6 were unsigned). There are only 4 draftees from ’16 at a higher level than Young…..:Hudson 1st rd.- Gallen 3rd- Edman 6th- Knizner 7th. Two are teammates at PB Jones 2nd- Billings 13th. Young was drafted in the 37th rd!
Sometimes folks are turned off by lower round draft picks despite them actually finding success. It’s that all important perceived potential that clouds their viewpoint.
Sorry for the dup. I tried to delete the previous posting of this comment.
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ParticipantRE: YOUNG. Yeah, well let’s remember it is Palm Beach and he finished ’16 at State College and it took him some time to get going at Peoria earlier this season.
Of those drafted earlier than Young (6 were unsigned) that he has surpassed level-wise 22 were college draftees (as he was), 5 were HS draftees. There are only 4 draftees from ’16 at a higher level:Hudson 1st rd.- Gallen 3rd- Edman 6th- Knizner 7th. Two are teammates at PB Jones 2nd- Billings 13th. Young came on board in the 37th rd!
Sometimes folks are turned off by lower round draft picks despite them actually finding success. It’s that all important perceived potential that clouds their viewpoint.
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Participant(hand raised) BW, would Andy Young have made your top-60 list? Wait…. what? I double checked your top-50…… no Young. I know that there will be some explanation.
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ParticipantI think that he doesn’t have his head 100% in baseball mode. Some of it is back home with his Mom. I guess it can’t be helped. Maybe it’s hard to play the game you love when there’s misery back at the homestead. Just guessing.
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ParticipantMatt Pearce to Memphis from Springfield.
Starters:
Flaherty
MGonzales
Weaver
Gant
Mayers
Zeid
Pearce
ArReyes (rehab) back soon
and Gallen a call away at Springfield.Seems like there might be something in the wind.
Memphis is 14-2 in last 16 games. The pitching has been superior and Memphis is the class of the Pacific Coast League. Our AAA team hasn’t been so good since the Louisville Cards. It’s not outlandish to say that three or four of those arms could be pitching in the majors.
This may be a good time to switch ArReyes over to the bullpen. He’s a good AAA pitcher but when he was on the DL a few guys whizzed right by him. There’s little chance of him ever seeing St Louis except some very good innings in the Redbird pen.Hudson has been the steadiest of the starters at Springfield.
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ParticipantI find it surprising that not more is said of the success of DeJong.
Another thing…. If someone told you last season that the STL of would consist of Fowler, Pham, Sierra and Martinez, you would of called him a loony.
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ParticipantMLB’s list is dated… they haven’t been able to catch-up with Gallen’s progress. That list has…. I counted 5 or 6 that presently don’t belong there anymore. And there’s probably 9 or 10 that do belong.
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ParticipantCard25…. I agree with most of what you’ve said but I think the Cards have had their share of prospects becoming better than their projections. Lynn, the early years of Wacha, Martinez even Molina are some examples . I am very high on DeJong…. more than most. I’ll admit that I overrate some prospects just because I’m a Cards fan, but I try to stay realistic. I think that the organizations feels that if you stockpile a lot of solid arms chances are that a few will become MLBers… and really that’s all you need.
Right now I’m very impressed with the rotations at the full-season teams. I just went through the yearly draft picks to see who actually made the big-league team and who has progressed quickly through the farm system. It’s interesting…. we got some goodin’s coming up. There’s some star power there.
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ParticipantGomber had the organization’s best pitched game last night. He must have been snooping around these comments, and didn’t want to drop down to #30.
ps.I’ve been quite busy the last few days… I have BW’s new list and will make some comments probably Monday.
pps. Meracdo has shown up again on MLB’s top-30. He had fallen out of it for some time.14NyquisT
ParticipantCards ’19 OF = Bader-Arozarena-Sierra-Mercado-JAGarcia & bccran.
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ParticipantThis is bad news to me. I’m a big Grichuk fan and hope he gets back soon with a more focused approach at the plate. It could happen. As far as Martinez being the one sent up as apposed to JAGarcia or Bader says something about going forward. He’s the fourth outfielder at Memphis.
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ParticipantThej…. one of your best comments. The Cards have some problems going forward. A lot of the anxiety is being caused by us STILL being in this thing. My way of looking at this is that we should be looking at someone for the next 3 or 4 years but someone good enough to step in now.
Giving up a bunch potential stars for someone that could help us for this season doesn’t make sense. With a less than 50% chance of winning this division and most of the starters having “off” years is a recipe for “wait til next year”. That was something some were thinking about right after the Cubs won the WS. They’ve fallen back to the pack because their players are having off years also. I’d rather have a decent farm system going into ’18 than to lose playing into October this season AND having a weakened system going forward. Long term contracts still frighten me.14NyquisT
ParticipantChris Ellis is in line for his regular start…. is there a reason why he is in doubt?
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ParticipantOn that Delvin Perez demotion. He’s gotten tons of bad ink over the whole situation. Most have the same bottom line for him…. you better do a 180* and start using some of the wonderful potential that you have. A great career awaits you, straighten out your priorities.
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ParticipantI like the aggressive move the organization made sending Hicks up to Palm Beach. Jordan has been successful for most of his 20 years (21 in Sept). Less aggressive and more necessary was getting Anthony Shew up to Peoria to take Hicks’ spot. Shew will be 24 in Nov. and needs to make a climb sooner than later.
I watched most of the AAA All Star game last nite (ps. I couldn’t care less about the MLB ASG). I just wanted to see some of the top rookies with my own eyes. Carson Kelly squeezed through a single to RF and Sherriff pitched 1/3 of an inning…. two highlites.
I’d like to see Wilberto Rivera (8th rd.) (GCL) and Evan Guillory (23th rd.) (JC) get a shot to start. Both are 6′-3″ and fit the role.
Super night for 5′-10″ Peoria ss Kramer Robertson (4th rd.). I hope we’ll see more of this from the leadoff hitter.
One reason Memphis has been so successful in ’17 is the back end of their bullpen. Josh Lucas, Mark Montgomery and Ryan Sherriff have all been putting up terrific #s. Of course, the rotation ain’t too shabby either.
This is the best AAA team we’ve had in a long time. There are many Redbirds ready for MLB now or being very close to ready…. solid prospects with top-notch credentials IMO.
DeJong was fortunate to get a chance to prove himself due to several circumstances. The most important one being the sophomore jinx that has bitten Aledmys Diaz. I love Diaz but I had my concerns about him repeating his ’16 break-out. I think that advanced scouting caught up with him. He’ll be back…. but maybe not this season. DeJong’s ’17 breakout might make that extremely difficult and AD continues to struggle at AAA. His absence is a good-sized reason the Cards are where they are.14NyquisT
ParticipantThanks BW for the kick back. I guess the factors you mentioned and the MLBer’s rehab trumps everything else.
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ParticipantThere is definitely a power shortage in this organization with very little hope of any of our prospects being that big bat. The FO was counting on Adams, Piscotty, Grichuk, Peralta, Fowler and Carpenter to provide x amount of HRs this season…. you know how that plan is working out. Time for plan B…. find a power bat. Mo, ya got no other choice.
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ParticipantWTH….. Kelly, Weaver and Sherriff have to play in the PCL AS game tonite in Tacoma. The Redbirds have a night game at home vs. Round Rock on Thursday. That’s some turnaround and I’ll bet none of them play in that one. Tacoma>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis.
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ParticipantThe longer-term contracts are a necessary evil in baseball. There should be a combination of both long and short term control. Control = very important to F.O.s. Most premier players will demand the multi-year deals. They have to put food on the table too.
There’s a pretty good article that may interest some:
https://redbirddaily.com/market-control-cardinals-trade-assets-4695/14NyquisT
ParticipantI had today as an off day for the GCL-Cards.
Hudson’s last poorly pitched game was on April 21st. A 4.0+inn outing in a loss 5-3 at Arkansas. GS=25
Woodford’s last poorly pitched game was on May 27th. A 4.2inn start in a 7-4 loss to Florida (FSL). GS=31
Ramirez needs a strong showing after two disasters for Johnson City.
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ParticipantOn this topic, I’m curious if certain rehabbers are sent to certain minor league teams to fill a void? And how about them avoiding certain minor league teams because they don’t particularly need a player at the position of the rehabber, thus taking playing time away from prospects that need it? I was told that the rehabber has a certain say on where he goes. This whole rehab assignment issue is still puzzles me.
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ParticipantI’m not a fan of locking up players into their older years. Those contracts seem to not turn out as expected. Molina’s contract included… I think that he would’ve enjoyed playing with a different team. His tenure with the Puerto Rican team is a good example and even playing with different teammates in the AS Game seems to invigorate him.
I’ve always have been a fan of the home-grown guys because I follow them through the system for a number of years. That’s me, I know others feel differently and have less loyalty for our farmhands. -
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