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For whatever reason, the Mariners and Cards just seem to value guys differently,
This comes up every once in a while. Cardinal fans, especially here, over-value our players and prospects….. I think to a sizeable degree. That’s probably because they are the one’s that we read about…. check data on, check scouting reports etc etc. They are our guys our prizes….. and at times that blurs reality.
There is serious concern about Herrera’s play behind the plate…… will he get a chance to change some minds…. I mean the ones that count. If that concern is real that leaves us with Pages starting and Pozo back-up, with a grand succession of prospects following close behind. It will certainly become a logjam at some point, if not, already. I think it prudent for the younger guys to grab a bunch of different gloves and try them out. A little success might be the difference between MLB vs. AAA as the competition will likely become fierce.
As for Herrera…. “if he can hit they’ll find a spot for him.” and Herrera can hit.
Keith, It’s good to know that you are so optimistic about our pitching prospects. You have six of them ahead of Crooks….. Brian only two. The Jimmy Crooks fan club will be asking for your membership card back. :).
I read a comment elsewhere promoting trading our shiniest trade chip, Winn. He put it this way…. yeah we’d be losing the present starter with the highest ceiling, but hey, our #1 prospect is a SS. Getting a more elite pitcher would be the result and the spot that opens up by dealing Winn is covered, plus Wetherholt won’t have to learn a different position. To bring back a premier #1 starter like the dealing of Winn could bring, instead of moving a number of players would be a Winn Winn Winn. Hmmmm, it kind of had me thinking. But I think that Bloom doesn’t have the guts to get that done.
Back off… I’m just the messenger here.
(See Reyes, Alex)
CFIC…. boy, that’s opening a can of worms. But Reyes didn’t make it easy on himself.
I read a comment elsewhere promoting trading our shiniest trade chip, Winn. He put it this way…. yeah we’d be losing the present starter with the highest ceiling, but hey, our #1 prospect is a SS. Getting a more elite pitcher would be the result and the spot that opens up by dealing Winn is covered, plus Wetherholt won’t have to learn a different position. To bring back a premier #1 starter like the dealing of Winn could bring, instead of moving a number of players would be a Winn Winn Winn. Hmmmm, it kind of had me thinking. But I think that Bloom doesn’t have the guts to get that done.
Back off… I’m just the messenger here.
Bill is done buying the MOTO and top of rotation. We will produce it, or we won’t have it. And if we don’t have it, we won’t contend.
They have slashed payroll in the last 2 years nearly $80 million plus, it really depends are they just going to hover at or below $100 million or are they going to spend some money at some point on some key players.
Only two references to the main reason we are where we are today. BDW needs to show some interest in spending some money on his team for it to improve. There are 29 other teams looking to improve. What might make someone believe that STL will be competitive in the FA signings list. Sure the team could turn around quickly but there has to be a commitment from the owner. Do you think that we have that sort of owner? My belief is that solid improvement rests on his shoulders. And while we are here…. why do I have the feeling that, in general, players are now avoiding STL?
ps…. IMO Mozeliak got a free skate from the reason the team has been a state of malaise for the last …….(fill in the blank) years. I’m going back to the day he signed Dexter Fowler….. the blunder of the century and the day I stopped respecting him. Merry Christmas Bowtie. More coal for you this year.
May as well do them as they come aboard.
Also Brian posted that Aita was going to be #28th in the Red Sox rankings so we need to slot them in.
I think I would put Fajardo at #10, ahead of the Roby, Hence, Hjerpe trio.
The funny thing is that Donovan is the guy that the Cards are trying to add to the team. Their looking for someone who can play the OF as well as several INF positions. They are looking for a RH hitter but his value trumps that. Don’t trade Donovan! Get a RH hitter with some power to play CF.
He is a great player for the younger guys to emulate. You can’t run a bunch of 21/22 year olds out there without some stability in the order. They need leaders. He has more value in St. Louis than anywhere else.
It seems thatba lot of fans have jumped off the Hence-express. The Community has five pitchers ahead of him on their top-50. Keep is flat-out correct…. if we get anything out of him its a plus for us. His star is fading. Too bad…. once a valued commodity.
I’m just now looking this topic up. Does Mathews-Doyle-Mautz-Henderson-Hansen sound about right for Memphis?
Brian…. did you have a tie (#24) between Gastelum and Church. They are both shown as being your #24 selection.
Thanks 25 and Jnev. We carried 16 regs throughout the selections and those 16 were always punctual and I got the feeling that the guys were really into it this year. It was my pleasure to help out….. I have everyone’s votes from day1 and tallying them up is easy-peasy. stl25 carried most of the load and I thought everything went smoothly every week. Anyhow…. It made the off-season a lot shorter for me. I’m glad for the enthusiasm this year….a lot of great comments and opinions … you guys were great. Happy Holiday Season to All you wonderful fellow fans. Good health and hoping that you will like the Bloom moves…. they’re coming. Be well. 14.
If Bloom does trade the very popular, very versatile, very talented All-Star, he knows that he’s on the spot. If the return he gets fizzles, his reputation will be seen as Mozeliak II. His solution should be to not trade Donovan…. one of our guys.
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DO NOT TRADE DONNIE!!!DO NOT TRADE DONNIE!!!
Donovan is one of our guys….. came through the system. We already signed a starter and Donovan can play the outfield. (wiping hands) Both problems solved. I jest but DON’T TRADE DONOVAN.
IF May works out, his signing will take some pressure of our younger guys. There will be little pressure on May as he plays for another team. IMO the upside to bringing in a 28 y.o. pitcher this winter is sadly low. Not very low but indeed low.
