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Hicks has been so mishandled that I am not counting on anything from him.
I think that Jordan is on the “CMart list”…. out of sight…. out of mind.
bcc…. Ponce called…. he said that you left him off of your list and that he is a possibility.
First McGreevy and now Hudson for Palm Beach. Too bad the beachbirds are 31-66 and probably demoralized. 499 at yesterday’s game.August 27, 2021 at 12:30 pm in reply to: MLB Trade Rumors latest free agent rankings. Who ya got? #170881
Agreed. The Mo train went off a cliff at some point. My personal opinion is it started down hill when Luhnow and smart computers left.
It really revved up into the spiral when Mozeliak signed Fowler. Something he won’t be able to shake for the rest of his career. And that wasted a lot of the DeWitt $$.
With Rondon shelved on the IL, Thomas will get a shot at a regular starter spot. He has been solid in his 6 starts since mid-June. Sometimes guys will grab an opportunity like this and run with it.
I doubt very much that Yadi is going spend any time on the bench in any season. He has his way with how much he plays. I can’t imagine how his retirement plays out but it won’t be at the end of this season. It will take an injury to get him out of the lineup.
All part of the maturation process. They might be working on their secondary pitches.
That’s what I’ve been thinking all season.August 17, 2021 at 9:21 am in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 115 thread – Tuesday, August 17 vs. Brewers #169976
Realistically, it will take an awful lot for the Cards to make the play-offs. Most fans here sense that. It would take a serious increase offensively from all corners of the lineup and then the Phils and the Pads would have to go poof. And of course the Cards will have to catch and pass the Reds.
Remarkably the said lineup is the one the FO pictured, over the off-season, to be the one that would win us the division. Not quite so with the rotation…. not even close. Nagging injuries did us in. The bright side is that Flaherty and Kim got some rest time while on the IL. Wainwright has kept us from going under completely. He’s taken the ball every time his spot came up. Conversely, that might be a bad omen for him going forward. The thing is that he is a super-duper 40 y.o. competitor. So that’s a TBD. I expect him back in ’22.
I also believe Kim will be back…. he said that he’ll only play for STL or go back to where he came from. In my mind, Hudson is the biggest question mark. Will he come back as the same guy he was before his injury? Mikolas is another ?. I don’t see him in our ’22 plans at all. Then there’s the young guys that have mostly been disappointments…. you know the suspects…. and that includes Liberatore at Memphis… so he’s a TBD.
And then the inning eating vets… LeBlanc-Happ-Lester. Who knows? TBD. Maybe one will show something at ST, if they make it that far. CMart= out of sight, out of mind. I would like to see the back-end of the BP to stay intact. Hicks is like Popeye…. small stature-big arm. I’m not holding out much optimism for him and his time in St. Louis, just too many injuries to that arm of his.
Those are my thoughts…. and by the way, I know bccran will be reading this…. thanks for your post yesterday (#169811) on your thoughts. They pretty much mirror mine…. its good to know that I’m not alone as a Cards fan during this season and especially with the farm system which has been grueling. Bewildered this season but hope for the next one…. should I make it that far.
Whoever thought that our rotation would be these five on Aug. 10th?….. or anything even close to it. Right now LeBlanc is our #2 starter.August 9, 2021 at 1:54 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 111 thread – Sunday, August 8 vs. Royals #169424
If we’re not gonna make the playoffs this year, I’d rather they fall apart completely so they can get a decent draft pick for a change.
Right now we would be getting draft pick #12.August 9, 2021 at 1:46 pm in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 84 thread – Saturday, July 3 at Colorado #169421
I’m using this thread because its the day we acquired Justin Miller. Hardly a whisper about him. Miller pitched in five games for WAS…. they won 4 of them. Now with the Cards he has pitched in 13 games and the Cards only won 2 of those games. The Nats gave up on their good-luck charm….. is he now a bad-luck guy….? if you believe in that sort of thing. I just find it strange.
We are having some of the ’21 draftees starting out in Palm Beach which is probably demoralizing. Palm Beach may be the worst Cardinal affiliate ever. They had their heads handed to them in yesterday’s twin-bill(both games). Its getting to be a very sad state of affairs, actually embarrassing.
By VB’s John LaRue. This is how some fans see the trade deadline acquisitions.
The FO have been praying the “Hail Mary” game enough times to fill out an entire set of rosary beads. They should be saying an “act of contrition” aloud for all to hear…. and throw in some “mea culpas” also.
[in a Bronx accent] “we’re tanking ova here”.August 7, 2021 at 8:32 am in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 108 thread – Thursday, August 5 vs. Braves #169158
Our season is basically over so we might as well let the old crusty veterans finish this dumpster fire season and let the kids DEVELOP AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL. I think the front office finally admitted this is what they should do with the moves they made at the deadline.
You nailed it in two sentences.
Waino has made almost $150,000,000.00 playing professional baseball. He has a wife, 4 daughters, and an adopted son
living at St. Simons Island in Georgia. What’s his motivation for coming back for another year? And being away from his family at least another 7 1/2 months in 2022.
For many many ballplayers its called love of the game….. (see Yadier Molina.)
There is no doubt the pitching pipeline is broken. My issue is with second-guessing the trades that brought badly needed offense.
There is a clear pattern of poor trades and contract extensions that have plagued this team for the last few seasons. The big money handed out to disappointing players could have been spent more wisely. There should be some accountability and there should be a fan vibe that DeWitt and Mozeliak can pick up on. Is that asking too much for?
Mo and DeWitt own them all. They need to do better. Much better. Fans who are still interested should critique them on this mess.
Spoken like a true Cardinal fan.
Its not like Memphis is the only affiliate that can’t provide any pitchers to move up. Its a problem with the entire system. The only starters showing any consistency are Pike at Springfield (AA) Lunn and Pereira at Peoria (adv A). If you’re looking for help down the road you may have to wait for the draft class of ’21 to fine their way to St. Louis. Liberatore-Thompson-Rondon and Oviedo all have some good projections for ’22/’23 but are not slam-dunks.
How much longer are Flaherty-Wainwright-Kim-Mikolas LeBlanc-Lester-Happ-CMartinez-going to be pitching for the Cards? Having fingers crossed hasn’t been working out for the FO.
I really don’t like playing the “WHAT IF” game…. but where is the starting pitching depth? Outside of Woodford (who isn’t MLB ready) and perhaps Rondon-Oviedo (two big question marks) there is no other pitchers in the organization even close to being MLB-ready. One has to be prepared for injuries to starting pitchers. We shouldn’t have to pick up “past their prime” fill-ins. One…. maybe…. two… means that someone isn’t doing his job.
Memphis should have pitchers ready for the big team.
14 – I believe it was injuries that precipitated the Lester and Happ trades.
bc…. that’s because the starting pitching depth chart is so weak. The guys we traded would have been more than adequate in the rotation. Mo left the cupboard barren as it turns out. So what happens to Happ and Lester when Flaherty and Mikolas come back?
Plenty of prospects fall short. Some make it, too.
Its too bad that the FO decides to keep the ones that fall short (hence having to get the 2 “inning eaters” aboard). And then there’s the one’s that make it too…. yeah for other teams. You all know that cast.
Maybe we should change the St L on the uniforms to AARP…or not, or it’s a sign that Flaherty and Mikolas are not as healthy as some would hope…
Two excellent points. This has to be the oldest rotation in MLB history.
Perhaps the push to get Flaherty and Mikolas back from the IL has gone on the back burner. I doubt the FO got Happ and Lester to put them in the bullpen.
VEB’s J.P. Hill makes some interesting points how these two trades make some sense.July 30, 2021 at 10:05 am in reply to: 2021 Cardinals MLB Game 103 thread – Friday, July 30 vs. Twins #168217
Yep… LeBlanc would be a good guy to have around next season. Going into ’22 the rotation again has question marks everywhere….. Flaherty-Hudson-Mikolas(injuries?) Wainwright-Kim (subject to re-upping?) AReyes (PB or rotation?) and then there’s Woodford-Ponce-Oviedo (who can find some balance?) ARondon-Thomas (just big?s). LeBlanc has more value staying with us… but he will be 37 next week. Sign him just for some depth. He’s less of a question mark then most of the fore-mentioned group.
gscott…. I read the article and one sentence was revealing although I always include draft round and year in every list I make of the prospects. Not only do the Cards give a longer rope to high draft picks but I’ve noticed when acquiring players on minor league contracts most are first or second round selections though it may be several years ago.
Draft stock carries over in discussions far, far longer than it should, and a guy drafted in the seventh round who then hits like crazy up through Double A is still a seventh-rounder when trade talks start up, even if he’s also a potentially really good hitter.
My edit timer ran out….. grrrr. Juan Yepez = 5 HRs in his last six games. He seems to be more comfortable having 1B to himself since Nogowski is gone.
The reemergence of DPerez and Plummer comes at a time when the farm system needs them most.
For those who don’t follow the farm system closely the Memphis Redbirds AAA are on a roll. Consider that on July on July 9th they were 21-36…. today they are 35 up and 36 down. Yep that’s 14 in a row. I really didn’t want to jinx the Redbirds…. but they lost their next game 1-0. Their back on track with a win last night. Geez…. Liberatore got crunched last night.
It seems that the Memphis outfield is made up of all AAAA players. Maybe one of them will break loose in the next two months.
Juan Yepez = 5 HRs in his last six games. He seems to be more comfortable having 1B to himself since Nogowski is gone.
The reemergence of DPerez and Plummer comes at a time when the farm system needs them most.For those who don’t follow the farm system closely the Memphis Redbirds AAA are on a roll. Consider that on July on July 9th they were 21-36…. today they are 35 up and 36 down. Yep that’s 14 in a row.