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  • #298129
    jj-cf-stl
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    Their outfield has much better depth than us 25, but who knows their how and where of what they are building. Is Rafaela going to 2B? Do they want him in CF? Is Donny going to 2B or 3B if acquired? Does that mean they are out on Bergman at 3B? Do they want to add 2B Donny and 3B Bergman? If they have OF pieces available….. Lets listen on that too.

    #298132
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    Their outfield has much better depth than us 25, but who knows their how and where of what they are building. Is Rafaela going to 2B? Do they want him in CF? Is Donny going to 2B or 3B if acquired? Does that mean they are out on Bergman at 3B? Do they want to add 2B Donny and 3B Bergman? If they have OF pieces available….. Lets listen on that too.

    The issue with their OF depth is that at least 3 of their 4 outfielders are more valuable than Donovan is on his own (Abreu, Duran, and Anthony, in increasing order). Maybe Rafaela is pluckable, but his Gold Glove CF defense isn’t necessarily what we are looking for. I’d rather not add Donovan+ to get back an MLB player in this environment.

    #298133
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    Because the odds of Donavan playing this well over the next 1-2 years is low.

    #298134
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    I like the Mariners and was rooting for them this year. Wanted to see them get their first pennant – came so close. Good luck in ‘26!

    bicyclemike, thanks for the positive thoughts.

    I have fond memories of Wyoming having lived for five years in Laramie in the 1980s.

    #298135
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    I’d be will to add a pre-arb outfielder for Donovan +. Our long term OF depth needs addressed too.

    #298136
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    Welcome, TylerReb99.

    #298137
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    Brian is correct that The Athletic is a really good investment of your time and money. They have outstanding coverage of all of the major sports. Hopefully they will name the successor to Katie Woo soon.

    As for trading partners, it doesn’t matter to me who we trade with as long as we get a good return. I do like Kyson Witherspoon in Boston’s system. I think he projects to be a number 3 starter and possibly number 2.

    Another organizaion the Cardinals know well is Cleveland, due to Cerfolio being from there. They could use someone like Donovan.

    #298138
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    Because the odds of Donavan playing this well over the next 1-2 years is low.

    Why is it low? Donovan has been pretty consistent in how he’s played so far in his career. I would say there is a great chance that he’ll play as well the next two years, which is one of the strongest points he has in terms of his trade value. You know that you’re going to get a 3ish WAR player.

    #298139
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    The funny thing is that Donovan is the guy that the Cards are trying to add to the team. Their looking for someone who can play the OF as well as several INF positions. They are looking for a RH hitter but his value trumps that. Don’t trade Donovan! Get a RH hitter with some power to play CF.

    He is a great player for the younger guys to emulate. You can’t run a bunch of 21/22 year olds out there without some stability in the order. They need leaders. He has more value in St. Louis than anywhere else.

    #298141
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    Thank you! Glad to be here.

    #298142
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    Thank you. Glad to be here

    #298143
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    Why is it low? Donovan has been pretty consistent in how he’s played so far in his career. I would say there is a great chance that he’ll play as well the next two years, which is one of the strongest points he has in terms of his trade value. You know that you’re going to get a 3ish WAR player.

    he had a great season last year. I just can’t see him doing that year over year. What’s the point of keeping him? This team is 2 years at least away from being competitive. Might as well sell while he’s hot. Instead of waiting.

    #298147
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    Refreshing! NyQuist is exactly correct. It’s silly. Do not believe these sports writers…..or even any rumblings trickling out from our front office. Donovan is going nowhere. He is exactly the kind of player the Cardinals want and need to help mold these young pups coming up. It would take an extremely lopsided offering to send Donovan packing.

    #298148
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    Do NOT trade Donny!

    #298155
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    Just Baseball podcasters discuss a hypothetical trade of Brendan Donovan to the Dodgers for prospects Eduardo Quintero and Zachary Root:

    #298156
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    Reportedly, half o the teams in MLB have inquired about Donovan. The Dodgers have shown time and time again, that when they want something, they are almost unstoppable. If the Red Sox don’t resign Bregman, then third base is a problem for them. They could probably get Donovan relatively cheap, if they take Arenado in a trade that doesn’t require the Cardinals to eat an excessive amount of his salary. The Red Sox are serious about winning now. The Dodgers are always serious about winning now. The Mariners can’t be ruled out yet although no new rumors regarding Donovan to the Mariners have been reported. The Mariners, apparently, are prepared to go with the runner up roster that they had in 2025 since they haven’t done much to improve their roster this offseason. Then, there is the possibility of a ‘mystery team’ emerging.

    #298157
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    Arenado is going to be a salary dump. Donovan isn’t that. Look for separate deals I think.

    #298159
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    14NyquisT
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    The funny thing is that Donovan is the guy that the Cards are trying to add to the team. Their looking for someone who can play the OF as well as several INF positions. They are looking for a RH hitter but his value trumps that. Don’t trade Donovan! Get a RH hitter with some power to play CF.

    He is a great player for the younger guys to emulate. You can’t run a bunch of 21/22 year olds out there without some stability in the order. They need leaders. He has more value in St. Louis than anywhere else.

    NyquisT over here advocating for signing Harrison Bader!

    #298160
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    They’ve obviously punted on 2026. I’m all for trading Donovan after the other two trades.

    We don’t need infield help and he’s worth more in a trade to someone that needs a second baseman.

    #298164
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    Arenado is going to be a salary dump.

    Agreed. They also need a place for Wetherholt to play, IMO. I know that there are those who are dead set on Wetherholt playing second base. But if that happens, we have at least four very good second baseman that are going to get little to no play at second base. If Bregman doesn’t sign with the Red Sox, they have a void to fill at third base. If the Cardinals can package Donovan and Arenado in a trade to the Red Sox, they would get the salary dump that they want. And the Red Sox might very well be getting a third baseman that could push them over the top. It makes all kinds of sense, IMO. What would prevent this trade from happening would be the Red Sox demanding that the Cardinals eat too much of Arenado’s salary, or the Cardinals demanding too much return in terms of players.

    #298180
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    I know that there are those who are dead set on Wetherholt playing second base. But if that happens, we have at least four very good second baseman that are going to get little to no play at second base.

    Donovan will be gone.
    Gorman will be at 3B.
    Saggese, Fermin, and Torres are utility players.
    2B should belong to Wetherholt in my opinion.

    #298181
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    If the Cardinals can package Donovan and Arenado in a trade to the Red Sox, they would get the salary dump that they want.

    I think that would be a mistake. Donovan has the most trade value of any player they will trade. I wouldn’t want to waste it by attaching him to Arenado. The prospect return the Cardinals could get for Donovan is more important than Nado’s salary in my opinion.

    #298185
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    gscottar -Thanks for posting. Now I understand why you, and others, want to see Wetherholt at 2B. You’re thinking that all of our potential second baseman are utility players and because of that, Gorman will have to play third base and Wetherholt will have to play second place in order to get enough offense into the lineup to win. I get it. But I would say that it greatly complicates things if one of those second baseman impresses at spring training. I’m thinking Saggese, in particular, because he’a put up some very good minor league stats.

    Regarding Donovan and Arenado together in a trade package, I completely agree that adding Arenado, because of his huge contract, to a package with Donovan will lower Donovan’s return. But I’m thinking that the Cardinals are going to have add an incentive in order for another team to be willing to take on Arenado’s contract.

    #298187
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    Do NOT trade Brendan Donovan.

    #298188
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    How about if we don’t trade Romero for now?He could be worth a fortune in prospects at the trade deadline.

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