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Just my opinion, but I think this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. No one really knows how many pitches were tipped, and surely not all pitches were tipped for each batter. That would have been too much pounding on trash cans, or too much to keep track of with a camera. No one knows how many games were effected by sigh stealing using the Astros system compared to the usual methods of sign stealing used by all teams. All in all, I think everybody would have been better off if the Astros were privately reprimanded to the extent that they stopped doing it. Then, let it go at that. It’s a shame that this has been turned into such a scandal.
All the same could be said for steroids (except there is far less proof of who did it and how much it helps), and yet we are keeping all time greats out of the Hall of Fame for that.
Maybe he was better in the minors, I guess.
I’d question the sanity of the team that called him up to MLB if he wasn’t better than those OPS numbers in the minors.
Dean is a RH outfielder who was recently DFA’d by the Marlins. He has a career WAR of -1.2.
Well, he’s not a switch hitter, but he otherwise looks like a cheap replacement for Fowler.
As for factoring in the salary, I’d rather spend that money on Arenado now instead of leaving Mo to his own devices to give it to the next Fowler and Carpenter.
I believe teams tend to have better records when they have eight 2 WAR guys than one 8 WAR guy, a couple of 2 WAR guys and a couple of people with zero to negative WAR. Just compare the Angels to the Cardinals…
When you go after a 6-8 WAR guy is when you have a team filled with 2 WAR players and you are looking for an upgrade. And when you trade tha 6-8 WAR guy is when you have numerous holes to fill and you are budget constrained.
We’d have the same lineup, just subbing Arenado for Carpenter. Losing Hudson would sting, but you have to give up something to get something, and you’d have a hard time making a case that Hudson is more valuable than Arenado.
I agree with Carioca, except for the speculation about being able to spend $34 million and make ourselves just as good. One elite player is better than two than add up to the same WAR. And while we could have been bigger players for a guy like Rendon, there is no guarantee that our equal monetary offer would have been accepted. But, honestly, that is just quibbling. He makes a good point, but that is the past. If we can get Arenado for something similar to what the Yankees gave up, then I am fairly certain that makes our team a good bit better. I like Bob’s proposals.
All that said, I still think a trade is unlikely. But I’m not rooting against it, for sure. I like building up a really good defensive team that can also hit (I also agree with Bob that Bader needs to be put in CF and left there).
We are never as loaded as we think we are in the minors. Not all prospects pan out, even the top ones. Arenado is an elite defender who brings a bat with him that would vastly upgrade our offense.
The Cardinals have won a lot of games in the last 15 or so years by grabbing a few top players to play in with their youth. Grabbing Arenado would be a really good move if the price is right.
The question of intellectual property and what is owned by the business vs. what the employees have gained personally is a murky area.
It’s not murky at all at any company that is competent. This is a basic thing covered in a standard employment contract. That said, I have no idea what the Cardinals employment contract says.
But, generally speaking, if a company is paying you to do something, the company owns the product of your work.
Lunhow is a worm who had this coming. I have no idea if he stole anything from the Cardinals. But I will always remember him announcing his “Zero Tolerance Policy” on domestic abuse right after he traded for a woman-beater coming off suspension. And his assistant GM showed how they feel about anyone who dare question their morality on the matter.
I think this is funny since Luhnow basically stole the Cardinals system for scouting and rating players. Now Luhnow is finally getting some punishment for trying to play at the edge of right and wrong.
This right here.
I really like Jose Martinez as a bench bat. He’s a guy who accepts his role and gives his best all the time with a good attitude. You prefer not being in a position where he starts a lot of games in the field, but that’s always true of your bench guys.
You really think that a member of labor union would have a fine held up for not reporting the abuses of his fellow union members and bosses?
I don’t see it holding up.The MLBPA are the only ones who can get this done. And look at what they already do to players with less than 6 years of Major League experience. I’d like to see them look out for minor leaguers, but I’m not holding my breath.
Saber rattling at its finest. It seems to have already worked.
Let me know when they get a bill through both houses of Congress that tells MLB teams that Congress is in control of what they can do with their minor league teams.
So you’re suggesting that Congress use the same trick to fool themselves into switching sides? I suppose it is worth a try.
Time will tell who is correct here, but I’d be willing to bet a sizable sum that I am. The first trick was pulled by the side holding the bully pulpit. It’s a lot harder to wield against them. Minor leaguers don’t have someone reading every piece of legislation before committees, and, even if they did, they don’t have the power to do anything but scream out to an audience that doesn’t listen to them. MLB doesn’t have those same issues.
It came into my mind that high schoolers with the most athleticism that play multi sports say football and baseball will see more opportunity with going on with football or basketball. Interest in college baseball is so far behind those two sports as it is so what premier athletes will choose baseball?.Would this drain the talent pool? Is this a factor?
Not sure what you mean by the first sentence, but I’m not sure it would drain the talent pool at all. It would certainly drive a lot more players to play college baseball. Honestly, I think MLB’s plan is to do what the NFL and NBA have been doing for a long time – use college more as a developmental league. Perhaps a model closer to hockey. The NHL has one affiliated developmental league (and a few decent independent feeder leagues). I don’t think MLB would ever go less than two teams deep into their minors, but college, could provide a free alternative for them – at least moreso than they have.
I think you will see the number of high school kids drafted go way down, and, the number of kids total drafter go way down. And you will see more of the latin players playing in latin leagues for longer.
Major League Baseball can look at all the ‘sabermetrics’ it wants, but what they don’t understand is the serious impact that losing these baseball teams will have on our communities,” said Congressman Rose. “You won’t see it in any formula, but my colleagues and I have all seen the impact teams like the Staten Island Yankees can have on the faces of the children who show up at the ballpark every year. I’m proud to join this effort to urge the MLB to reconsider.
The Staten Island Yankees, in one of the most densely populated areas in the U.S., drew 1848 fans per game last season (note: this is not paid attendance). The economic fallout from them closing shop would be devastating, assuming that you have an alternative definition to devastating that Miriam-Webster does not share.
The legislators are just covering their rear ends (see, we tried!). The idea that sports teams provide some economic boon to local economies has been disproven over and over, and relies on paid studies that start with a conclusion and work backward.
Baseball is America’s pastime and that pastime should not be exclusive to a select number of cities.
This is possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, and only a politician could say it with a straight face. Self-defeating logic is an amazing tool over the mentally handicapped, I suppose.
Certainly the 42 members who have potentially contracted teams will put up a fight. But then they need 176 more members to vote with them. And even if they cross that hurdle, they’d need to get it through the Senate, which is unlikely.
Like I said, saber-rattling.
And the MLB lobby isn’t much of one. However, the bully pulpit which these leagues have to tell a ready-made audience that Washington is trying to harm the game – that’s a powerful tool.
There will no doubt be fallout, but I do think that the political fallout is just saber-rattling. There is only one major politician who is (pick your adjective: dumb, nutty, ballsy, crazy) enough to put up a full frontal attack on a major sports league. The people who control MLB’s needed policies are too concerned with reelection to take them on.
