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MM3, I think other than Edman starting at 3B, I agree with your lineup. I get the sense that Carpenter’s time as a starter is coming to an end for the year.
I must confess that while I attempted to sleep, my curiosity grew and I watched a little more of the game after signing off here. Nice work by the offense and the bullpen, for the most part. Great to see the team taking care of business at Busch. Now let’s hope they finish the sweep off tonight and that the Cubs find a way to stub their toe a few times at Wrigley this week.
Another two out hit. An early morning for me with a busy work day so that’s all for me for this game. Hoping to wake up to a win but not expecting to.
The Brewers are highly annoying with all these two out hits. Even more so since the Cards can’t seem to get any of them.
The shift cost the Cards that run there. Thames hits it where they ain’t and it’s a tie ball game.
Wow, what a catch by Bader. I don’t think anyone else on the team could make that catch. Making a difference in his first game back.
Betts would cost a lot in a trade I’d think, but he’d likely be an All Star in his year with the Cards. Kluber might help but buying his age 33 and 34 seasons would be a risk.
I can’t read the article of course, but the guy I’d like to target if we have to give up a Carlson, Gorman, Flaherty level young player would be Francisco Lindor. The Indians and Cards seem to like to trade I guess so maybe they talk about Kluber too at some point.
MM3 was pretty close to right…just had Molina and Wong flipped. Looks like a solid lineup.
BTW, Gio has a career 3.21 ERA vs the Cards, but since 2016 that balloons to 5.40.
I think we can all agree that the Cubs are stupid but can’t we find a better way to disagree?
The Edman in RF Club: Mike Shildt, Gamecard
The Edman Doesn’t Belong in RF Club: The Stats, The Entire Rest of the Fan Base
We know who will win out. I’ll just leave it at that and we can agree to disagree. The standings will prove who was right, I guess.
No, it is not stupid…it is the correct thing to do. If we had more than one LH bat available in the OF he likely would not be playing there but we don’t.
Mike Matheny, is that you??
Just because a player is left handed, it doesn’t mean that they’re automatically a better hitter against RHP. Edman has always been better from the right side in the minors. He’s not exactly lighting it up right now.
Minors OPS vs RHP this year (where all these guys have played the majority of their year):
Arozarena .926
Thomas .826
Edman .744
O’Neill .691 (.973 in 2018)Is it just magic that makes him a better option? Again, I like Edman and think he is a solid player and could be an average starter at 2B going forward. But it’s very questionable if he’s the best option in RF unless you just ignore his entire career and the careers of these other players.
It appears that Oscar Mercado is turning into a real factor for the Indians. Who did the Cards get for him in trade or was he a Rule 5 claim?
Conner Capel, a LH OF who’s currently 22 and had a below average .222/.279/.365 line at Springfield with a solid cup of tea at Memphis this year.
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Jhon Torres, a RH OF who tore up the GCL last year and is currently a 19 year old at Johnson City and has a .259/.358/.519 line. He’s thought of as the better get for the Cards and is a top 10 team prospect on many ranking sites. He didn’t fare so well in his first taste of full season baseball earlier this year though.
Wacha actually looked decent in the last game against Cincy. His fastball had a little more zip and his off speed stuff was solid. I wouldn’t mess around much with him tonight…if it’s clear he doesn’t have it, then a quick hook is needed. I’d be happy enough with 5 innings and 1-2 runs. It feels like the Cards have hit Gio well in recent years but I don’t have data to back that up. I think they can score some runs off him tonight though.
He is an adequate outfielder and when he plays there it is obviously for his left-handed bat. Why is that so hard for some to comprehend.
Edman’s LH stats: .252/.289/.385 for a 75 wRC+, or 25% below league average. So yeah, it’s hard to comprehend why it’s so obvious that it’s for his left handed bat.
The time is coming close for Carpenter to sit, IMO. I don’t like to say it because I think the team cannot win in October without a healthy and functioning Carp. If he’s still “close” but not performing next week I give him a start or two a week against RHP he’s hit well before and pinch hit late. Edman takes most of the time at 3B.
I still think he’s a rebound candidate for 2020. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s a >120 wRC+ hitter again next year.
To add on, the fact that some believe that Munoz is a better outfielder than infielder tells me he should not be on the roster next year. To me, there are better infielders and better outfielders and better hitters, too. So what is his advantage?
He has none. At this point, is there any player on the entire roster that you’d feel confident in saying he’s an upgrade over? Even Carpenter in his worst state is a better player. Every OF in Memphis is a better player. I hate to rag on the kid cause he’s had some clutch hits but I just cannot see the value he adds to this team and when you’ve got Mike Matheny, err, Shilt setting the lineups, you have to purge veterans in order to get the young guys time. Munoz is the kind of AAAA filler that you probably need to have, but I don’t trust the coaching staff to utilize properly.
We really need to thin the ranks before next year. I love having depth but we don’t need guys rotting at Memphis. There could be some good trade opportunities over the winter unless we trade for even more OF’s like last time.
Yep. I believe that Mo will have to pull an Allen Craig and trade Jmart before Shildt will ever take him out of the lineup. So he’s first to go, IMO. At this point I’d be fine with the type of return the Cards got for Voit…two minor league relievers.
Fowler will last as long as Carlson isn’t on the MLB roster. With the unknowns regarding Ozuna and no returning proven starters (unless Bader can prove he can hit again), I’m ok with keeping him into next year. If he plays well, he’s a trade chip. If he flails he’s a trade/DFA candidate.
I think you have to go with Bader in center until you know he can’t hit.
Of the minor league guys, I trade Garcia for a lotto ticket, Thomas or Arozarena for an update to the rotation or bullpen and hold onto the rest.
MLB-O’Neill-Bader-Fowler/Arozarena or Thomas
AAA-Williams and Carlson
Oh, and I’d also trade Munoz. He’s a sub replacement player and Edman makes him redundant. Even if not, a guy like Sosa would probably be a better long term bet on an MLB roster as a reserve IF and there is 0 reason to play him in the OF.
Precisely why Randy and Lane Thomas needed to play over the prior weeks. Shildt made it clear he is protecting his veterans, but that shouldn’t apply to Edman and Munoz. Big missed opportunity to start to sort out the various OF options.
I agree with you, Brian. We had two guys come up in the midst of incredible hot streaks, only to fizzle on the bench. Thomas has gotten a little more run of late, but Arozarena’s callup was wasted.
He’ll be back soon, I’d guess. But in September I doubt he will get any at bats at all with O’Neill and Jmart possibly coming back. Randy will be behind at least six players in the OF pecking order.
Miller just misses two off the plate and can’t get Gamel to bite. Now it’s 2-2 and I sense a big breaker coming. Almost a HBP there and the count is full. Gamel flies out, and the Cards win 3-0!!
Miller Ks Piña…one to go!!
One down…nice throw by Hours to get him.
Whew…Miller gets the groundout. It’s still 3-0 and I’d feel better with a few insurance runs.
There’s the first hit. Miller in to try to get Yelich. We getting good Miller or not?
doesnt do a darn thing for you
Well, in this case I feel like it would at least get the Cards the win. That’s what I care about right now!
Dakota leaves with a no no and four walks. Good work, kid. Gallegos in.
