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Will be interested to see how Quinn adjusts to the big leagues. I would be happy to see him get an extended run (along with Dobbins) and give Libby some time in the bullpen to reset. He could still eat some innings if needed, but limit him to 70ish pitches. I think he could be a decent lefty pen option in the longer term, but he would need work to regain any sort of starter form.
Always interesting when the guy who gives up a multi run meatball gets the win.
Good to see May have a solid last start in St Louis. Basically that’s what you hope for him at his best…a decent #3/4 type guy. Hopefully one of the contenders is willing to give us something solid for him, would be nice to add at least a FV 50 guy in a trade as that would be a top 10ish guy in our system.
This may be the last time we see .500 for the year. I’m not hopeful when our lineup is dependent on about 4 guys and the bullpen is atrocious.
Based on reported numbers ($3,200,000 for Maniscalco and $501,300 for Randall), the Cards will either spend under the pool amount again (by $36,900) or could sign Horn for $186,900 or less to stay under. They would have up to $867,515 to spend, so either Freshcorn or Ritchie could get about $1.02M if all parties were so inclined.
Packy was a decent fill in back there in the last run of 2022. I’m thankful that he got to play in the big leagues for a bit. Hopefully he’ll be successful in whatever else he decides to do in life.
Just a game that you cannot lose. Bloom is likely thrilled as it means one step closer to a fire sale.
As soon as Pugs leaves, Pallante can’t get anyone out! It’s 7-1 with the bases jammed with Dbacks in the 6th before he finally records an out.
Brandon Clarke hit 103 in his outing at Palm Beach last night. He is still not too effective, so it doesn’t matter much, but it’s one of those fun oddities.
I noticed Honeyman down near the bottom of the list posted above. He is holding his own (.283 BA, .800 OPS) with performance tilted upward. A good second half would attract notice, but we have acquired so many new shiney toys it is hard to bring a Honeyman future into focus.
The issue with Honeyman is health. He’s just been hurt so often that it’s hard to see him staying healthy enough to get an MLB shot. Still, I think the organizational depth is such that he doesn’t really move much in FV for me while moving down significantly in my rankings. We’ve just added a lot of talent above him since last year’s rankings. He was ranked 35th for me last season (35 FV/50 FV high end with extreme risk) and we added 14 guys that slotted above him since then. I’d have to sit down and think about it but I feel like that’s about what he would be for me now, with the risk maybe bumping to high after playing fairly well (and injury-free) at Springfield this year.
Good to hear about all the signings. Should be interesting to see how the money lines up. Sounds like all that’s left in the first 10 rounds is Maniscalco and Randall? Those are the two that seemed like they’d be requiring a little extra dough to bring in, so hopefully they can get the money lined up.
I am looking forward to your list. It’s one of the most well thought out lists of our posters. I’m curious how your list compares to my thinking.
I’m willing to be corrected if wrong, but we have always followed Brian’s rules for eligibility, which have been 130 PA for position players or 50 IP for pitchers. The 45 days is very difficult to track for me personally. For now since it’s informal it’s no big deal but in the fall it will be that way unless Brian does his differently.
If someone is willing to offer exceptional value for any of our guys, of course I’d listen. Is O’Brien irreplaceable? Probably not. So if someone offers a top 100 prospect and something else intriguing for him, why not? At least in the scenario where we are trading May, Romero and possibly even Nootbaar in the next month, it’s not like the team will lock down a whole lot of games down the stretch anyway.
I went to check for updates on Amazon music (which I only use for another podcast but it tells me when updates to WwWaR happen more quickly than my typical app) and it wouldn’t let me update because it said the content was explicit. My first thought…”what did Kyle do now?”
I’ve listened to the first half of the draft recap. Great stuff, and thanks to you guys (Brian, Kyle, Kareem) for sharing your thoughts.
Former Cardinal Michael Wacha on for the AL. K’s his first two opponents.
Isn’t it crazy that after all the twists and turns, Wacha turned out to have the best career of all that pitching we had in the pipeline circa 2013? It sure seemed like he wasn’t going to be able to keep off the injured list and be effective enough to be more than a back end starter while he was with us. Now he’s a two time All Star who’s had a pretty nice career as pretty much what we hoped when we drafted him…a mid rotation #2-3 sort of starter. Admittedly, we all got a little carried away after he dominated that first postseason, but he’s been very good.
As someone who spends most of my day in the car now, more is better! I’m excited to listen in and get even more pumped about the draft class. Hopefully we can look back at this one as a 2009-style impact on our future (would be nice if Condon turned out to be more Mike Trout than Shelby Miller, lol).
That’s interesting, because Odle and Rincon are two guys in specific that I had a hard time ranking. Odle is sort of the helium guy this year and Rincon I was high on last year but I felt he got a little rushed to Memphis. But both guys will have a shot to move up my list before the fall. Overall I like where the system is at as a good chunk of guys have had a good year this year and shown the ability to take a step forward. I’ll have to update my FV grades toward the fall, but it feels like we have quite a few more 45 and better guys in the system right now (I had 13 in the fall), including a bunch of draftees, trade acquisitions and guys who’ve just taken a step forward.
My overall feeling of why the Cardinals will sell is just listening to what Bloom says. He has been asked about this numerous times and every time his stock answer is something like “we aren’t going to make any moves for short term gain”. Every time he says this. At some point we should probably believe him.
I don’t love it, but Bloom’s take has basically been “we are tearing it down to the studs to save the Dewitts some long term cash, aiming to be a small market team like Cleveland or Milwaukee, and we aren’t going to let anyone stop us from doing it.” It’s a tough market, trying to time your window to compete every so often, but the Cards’ roster is set up to move anything not nailed down for more than a couple of years this summer. It’ll be a bummer if the team comes out of the break playing well and getting back into the playoff race, only to trade away several important pieces that will guarantee that they can’t make October.
My bulk post draft rankings. Crooks will graduate very soon. Some guys that dropped big time for me are Clarke, Hence and Chase Davis. Hard to project any of them to do much, for various reasons (mostly injury, but for Davis he’s just too passive). The injury arms are hard to rank but I tried to not penalize them super heavily. Some of them could easily jump back up before the season ends. I ranked 8 (!) new draftees in the top 50, which makes for quite the potential haul from this draft.
1 Rainiel Rodriguez
2 Liam Doyle
3 Joshua Baez
4 Quinn Mathews
5 Leonardo Bernal
6 Jimmy Crooks
7 Jurrangelo Cijntje
8 Tanner Franklin
9 Jhoiker Fajardo
10 Trevor Condon
11 Won-Bin Cho
12 Jesus Baez
13 Tegan Kuhns
14 Mason Molina
15 Tai Peete
16 Brycen Mautz
17 Chen-Wei Lin
18 Jack Gurevitch
19 Braden Davis
20 Blaze Jordan
21 Deniel Ortiz
22 Ixan Henderson
23 Cooper Hjerpe
24 Tekoah Roby
25 Ryan Mitchell
26 Yairo Padilla
27 Rocco Maniscalco
28 Dee Kennedy
29 Andrew Williamson
30 Jacob Odle
31 Brandon Clarke
32 Bryan Torres
33 Sebastian De Los Santos
34 Ty Van Dyke
35 Tink Hence
36 Pete Hansen
37 Caden Ferraro
38 Emmanuel Luna
39 Xavier Cruz
40 Luis Gastelum
41 Dawson Montesa
42 Hancel Rincon
43 Chase Davis
44 Payton Graham
45 Mason Burns
46 Travis Honeyman
47 Cade Winquest
48 Cade Crossland
49 Miguel Hernandez
50 Cal RandallI wonder about the explanation for Koperniaak’s precipitous dropoff from 24 to 25.
I do think that there’s something to the mental side for a guy who did everything he could but just couldn’t break through. For some, that realization can really sap their concentration. Still, over multiple years it seems slightly strange, so perhaps nagging injuries had some role. I would have thought he would have hit at the big league level if given a chance in ’24.
A little bit bummed for Koperniak as I was always pretty high on him. I think the Cardinals could have used him in 2024 in particular when the OF was pretty bad and he was very solid in AAA. Still, you could tell that he wasn’t going to be in the team’s future plans so he was going to have to make a go of it elsewhere. Hopefully for his sake, he can keep following his dream if that’s what he wants. Rivas showed some flashes at points as well, and Savacool was a good organizational soldier. Such is the nature of the game.