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stlcard25ParticipantSantana may not make the opening day roster, but he will be in the bullpen by mid season. Like I said, I expect him to be better than Romero was for us, at least by the metrics. That was 4 bWAR (1.8 fWAR, FG didn’t like him as much). Lest you put that number down, in the extremely deep 2018 class, where 39 of the 65 votees made the big leagues, 4 WAR would have ranked 14th, between Austin Gomber (who we voted 10th) and Dylan Carlson (who we voted 18th). Even for extremely stacked farm systems, it’s unusual to have all that many guys become multiple year average or above contributors. I think Santana has one of the highest probabilities to become just that of any prospect we have.
stlcard25ParticipantIf you want a good chuckle on this Saturday morning, check out the guy that ESPN says the Cardinals would be a “another possible fit” for signing…
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/50319156/offseason-best-fits-top-free-agents
It would be the understatement of the year that Skubal would upgrade the rotation but I’d expect to see pigs flying over Busch before the Dewitts shell out 8 years and $355M (the average of the execs polled).
stlcard25ParticipantFlores has done a good job, but I don’t consider him unexpendable. I thought the Cards may make a play to keep him around in the GM role if he was threatened, but perhaps that’s ticketed for Cerfolio if someone tries to nab him.
stlcard25Participant15. Sandro Santana
16. Mason Molina
Both will probably debut with St Louis next year and both have the opportunity to be contributors for the next several years. That’s a better value than an A ball guy who, while young, has a long gauntlet ahead to even make it to St Louis, let alone maintain results.
stlcard25ParticipantWe are going to close the vote a few minutes early for our #13 and 14 prospects. Bob Reed can rejoice, as he will finally get to vote for a new prospect! Sebastian Dos Santos, IF is your #13 prospect in the TCN Community Top Prospect Rankings. Your #14 prospect is Tekoah Roby, RHP. Way to go, gentlemen!
1. Rainiel Rodriguez, C
2. Quinn Mathews, LHP
3. Liam Doyle, LHP
4. Leo Bernal, C
5. Joshua Baez, OF
6. Tanner Franklin, RHP
7. Cooper Hjerpe, LHP
8. Jesus Baez, IF
9. Yhoiker Fajardo, RHP
10. Jurrangelo Cijntje, SHP
11. Trevor Condon, OF
12. Tai Peete, OF
13. Sebastian Dos Santos, IF
14. Tekoah Roby, RHPVoting is now open for the 15th and 16th ranked prospects. Voting will close at 12 PM CT/1 PM ET on Monday, November 2nd.
stlcard25ParticipantIt’s looking like I will have a full repeat vote for next round, so I’ll add my comments on a couple of guys that are very likely going to be the choices…
Sebastian Dos Santos (my #15), SS/2B 45/65, Risk High
Young Sebastian, just 18, makes for an interesting case. On one hand, I have him as a high risk prospect, as he’s so young and just made his stateside debut this year. On the other hand, he had tremendous success, looking way of out of place early on in the FCL before settling down a bit and playing good baseball, which earned him a promotion to the Florida State League for a nice stretch. While there, he seemed to take advantage of his approach as much as anything running a walk rate of 17.3%, leading to a .400 OBP despite a .246 batting average. He also had a good amount of over the wall power, which is tough to do in the FSL, popping 10 HRs in 255 plate appearances. While being young and making it to full season ball is maybe not as rare as it once was, Dos Santos still never got to step into the box against a pitcher younger than he was. His switch hitting swing is exciting to prospect evaluators, although he looked to be better from the left hand side this year. He played three different positions (2B, SS, 3B), with the most innings at shortstop. He committed 7 errors at Palm Beach in his 290ish innings there, which isn’t unusual for a young player. He stole 28 bases this year, which portends at least an average runner out there. The question is…how will he fare once he moves up a level? Is he a shortstop long term? It appears that the bat should play, but the position will tell what sort of value we can expect here. Still, along with Condon and upcoming picks Frias, Hernandez and Luna, the Cards have quite a number of 18 year olds who have the sort of potential that has already started to see results that fans and scouts will drool over. We will see who starts at Palm Beach vs Peoria next year.
Tekoah Roby (my #19), RHP, 45/50, Risk Medium
Tekoah, who came over in the Jordan Montgomery trade what feels like an eternity ago, is still plugging away in the minors. The arm talent has never been a question. When he’s healthy, he gets strikeouts, doesn’t walk a ton of batters, and looks like a future mid rotation talent. We saw that on display for the first half of the 2025 season, where he pitched great in Springfield and was just getting his footing at Memphis before succumbing to the dreaded Tommy John. He’s back now and crushing it in the Arizona Fall League, which is pretty much what an advanced prospect should do against A ball and fringy A+/AA sort of hitters at this point. Roby has a solid fastball and his slider and curve are both possible plus pitches. He has a change as well, so the repertoire is certainly that of a starter. But the cap on his ceiling and the drag on his ranking for me is the injury history. Shoulder injuries in 2023 and 2024 indicate an arm that may just not be able to handle 100 pitches every 5-6 days. The nice thing is that he could probably go the Trevor Rosenthal route, which is where I expect him to end up. His 97+ mph FB and other three pitches could make him an ideal late inning guy, with the mental side being the only real unknown. Still, this is about as high as I can go for a guy coming off a missed year and other arm troubles (see Clarke and Henderson coming up later).
stlcard25ParticipantSpeaking of that, I wish there was some indication that Odle was getting the walks under control, but there isn’t. As of now, its disqualifying IMO. 7.0 BB/9 over 15 starts at Peoria. Yikes. Scanning the game log, there wasn’t any improvement as he went along. I can’t even imagine what it would be like vs AA hitters. Next year is his 5th in the system, so if he is going to get it dialed in, he better git movin.
I’ve got Odle down as a reliever and a very good one. Occasionally I get a fancy that he’ll find the magic formula to stick as a starter, but then I remember that I feel more confident in about 7 or 8 guys to manage that gauntlet better and how I think he’ll crush it as a reliever. He could well be the closer in 2-3 years, with Santana as the elite setup guy.
stlcard25ParticipantMy thinking about Clarke is, best case, he has to stay on the mound all 2027 working up through AA and AAA, just to position himself to take a run at MLB sometime in 2028. That is way more staying healthy than what Roby has to do to get to the promised land. I have previously mentioned that there is no structure in a pitching arm that sheds loose bodies when healthy and undamaged, which is concerning, but in Clake’s case, it seems intuitive that maybe it is debris from a previous procedure, and maybe that is less concerning. We don’t know, of course.
Clarke is one of the most talented arms in the system, but his health is a massive question mark, to say the least. Chucking it 103 in rehab starts just puts an exclamation point on it for me. I have him around 30th, which is around replacement level as a projection from me, 0ish WAR over the six controllable years.
stlcard25ParticipantCongrats to the Brewers and especially to our friend AlbertTheMachine!
stlcard25Participant13. Sandro Santana. The guy ran a 60% K rate in his time with Springfield. That’s not a typo…he faced 30 batters and struck out 18 of them. And he wasn’t too shabby with Memphis either, punching out 36.1% of batters who stepped into the box. You may say that a reliever should never be this high, but a very good reliever will produce 1+ WAR per year, which is plenty enough to make most top 15s if you were to go back and audit prospect lists. I will make the case that the 21 year old has as good a shot as anyone outside the top 5 or 6 to produce at the big league level going forward.
14. Mason Molina, LHP 45/50 Risk Med
My #11 prospect, here’s a guy who has really raised his stock this year to the point where he should probably be getting some consideration for a chance to take the spot previously assumed to go to Matthew Liberatore for the 2027 season. Mason started the year in Springfield and generally breezed through his starts, compiling a 2.87 ERA and a 10.7/3.4 K/BB ratio. He was moved up to the International League and got rocked early on, before settling down a bit in August and then really turning on the afterburners down the stretch. His last six starts…30-⅔ IP, only 1 (!) earned run, 39 K, 8 BB, and only 17 hits (0.82 WHIP). The lefty had a really great finish to his year and set himself up to get a shot as early as the spring, which is pretty great from a guy who was middle of the pack in last year’s rankings at 30th. I have more faith that he will end up a big league starter in the long term than a couple of guys that I had ranked behind him in Hjerpe and Fajardo. He projects as a #4 or 5 for me, with a little bit of upside. Sort of a just a little bit lesser Quinn Mathews. The fastball is good but not elite. The change is very good. The breaking stuff is alright. He takes the Ixan Henderson spot for me, as the hope to grab a back end starter sort of out of the ether.
stlcard25ParticipantWe are going to close a much-closer-than-it-seemed vote. While Dos Santos was named on only 6 ballots compared to 9 for Peete, he did get 5 votes at 11, compared to only 3 for Peete. This *nearly* swayed the voting for #12. With that being said, your 2027 TCN Community number 11 prospect is Trevor Condon, OF. Your number 12 prospect is Tai Peete, OF. Congrats to both of our worthy candidates!
1. Rainiel Rodriguez, C
2. Quinn Mathews, LHP
3. Liam Doyle, LHP
4. Leo Bernal, C
5. Joshua Baez, OF
6. Tanner Franklin, RHP
7. Cooper Hjerpe, LHP
8. Jesus Baez, IF
9. Yhoiker Fajardo, RHP
10. Jurrangelo Cijntje, SHP
11. Trevor Condon, OF
12. Tai Peete, OFVoting is now open for the 13th and 14th ranked prospects. Voting will close at 12 PM CT/1 PM ET on Friday, October 30th.
stlcard25ParticipantOn the pitching front, I think Bling is the only one to mention him, but I have Mason Molina as the next pitcher and above many of the hitters actually. He is another guy I see pitching in the bigs and as a #4 type guy.
I have Molina higher than most of the guys who are getting votes now. I still think Santana is going to be such a dominant reliever that I have to vote him for every slot until he gets in, but Molina is a highly respectable choice.
I like Peete as well and have moved him up a bit due to his excellent AFL, although I got Victor Scott-ed before so I’m nervous about voting him too highly. But he’s a fine choice as well.
Ragsdale is the one I’m not as high on as others, it seems. I see he and Cho as 4th OF competition with very similar skill sets. They’ll be in my top 20, but at the tail end of it.
stlcard25ParticipantWith just under 3 hours until the polls close, we have a tight race for the #12 spot at least! Literally one vote could make all the difference, so get your votes in before the 12 PM CT/1 PM ET deadline!
stlcard25Participant#11 Sandro Santana, LHP 40+/50, Risk Low
Until Bob Reed chimed in, I thought that there was a good chance that I was going to be by far the high man on Mr Santana, but I’m becoming more and more of a believer in the upside. While he’s shorter in stature and a bit slight, the stuff is electric and he was dominant across three levels in two different organizations in 2026, and was rightly named the prospect reliever of the year for MLB Pipeline. I’ll throw a few stats out there…64 IP, 101 Ks, 1.97 ERA, 1.016 WHIP. After he came over in the Nootbaar trade, he was so dominant (18.7 K/9, 0.577 WHIP) that the organization had to move him up to Memphis to give him a challenge. While the walks increased with the major league baseball, he was still basically unhittable. In his 33-⅓ innings at AA and AAA this year he gave up a total of 9 hits and 1 HR. Oh, and 4 runs (1.08 ERA). His fastball is good and his slider is elite. He toys with a little bit of a changeup, which may be something the team works on for his long term success in 2027. Outside of his size, you’d be hard pressed to make a better lefty relief prospect, IMO.
The downside is that he’s 5-10 and listed at 165 lbs. Hopefully the staff can get him on the opposite nutrition program of Rodriguez and Doyle and maybe he’s already bulking up a bit as he’ll turn 22 in March. I think the Cards got a huge steal in the Nootbaar trade (not to mention the guys who will be coming up later) and I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s a better than 1-for-1 replacement for Jojo Romero by late summer, and especially in 2028. He’s a dynamite arm with explosive results, to say the least.
#12 Trevor Condon, OF 45+/60 Risk High
My highest ranked 2026 draftee, Trevor is a classic centerfielder and an old school sort of player. You can tell from his early interviews that he’s a baseball junkie and will probably maximize his potential. Kyle Reis mentioned that he would probably talk his way into a game at Palm Beach before the season was out…well, he got into 7 games, socked his first pro homer, hit .321/.387/.526, stole a couple of bases and was probably really good in CF. That’s what you’re getting with Condon. I think he’s a Nathan Church at a minimum, and probably average or better across the board for a CF when he matures. He’s an exciting prospect who could well be Top 5 next year, with several projected graduations and his own chance to make a mark in a full season of professional ball. But he is far away, so the risk is high, albeit muted by my opinion that he has a very high ceiling for a high school prospect with his speed and bat to ball skills.. But expect Trevor to work hard enough to make his future average CF potential happen, with the chance for even more. I have Trevor 10th, which speaks to the depth of the system as he would have been pushing the Top 5 in his draft year just a few years back.
stlcard25ParticipantWe are closing the voting now for the #10 prospect. Your 2027 TCN Community #10 prospect is Jurrangelo Cijntje, SHP. Way to go, Jurrangelo!!
1. Rainiel Rodriguez, C
2. Quinn Mathews, LHP
3. Liam Doyle, LHP
4. Leo Bernal, C
5. Joshua Baez, OF
6. Tanner Franklin, RHP
7. Cooper Hjerpe, LHP
8. Jesus Baez, IF
9. Yhoiker Fajardo, RHP
10. Jurrangelo Cijntje, SHPVoting is now open for the #11 & 12 prospects. This voting changes a little, in that we use a weighted voting system. The prospect voted by each voter at #11 will get 2 points and the prospect voted #12 will get 1 point. Total points will determine the #11, then #12 prospect. In case of a tie, the first tiebreaker is the most votes at the earliest position, in this case #11. The second tiebreaker is the first to get to their total points, which is an incentive to get your votes in early!!
Voting will close at 12 PM CT/1 PM ET on Wednesday, October 28th.
stlcard25ParticipantRe the medical folks, I have Roby ahead of Clarke
I’m there with you for sure. Roby has health issues, but Clarke is on a whole other level with the arm injuries. I think Roby will at least pitch in the big leagues, whereas I have my doubts about Clarke holding up long enough to even make it there.
The injury history for both has depressed their ranking in my book. Roby is within my top 20, with Clarke in the 30ish range. Roby has looked good in Arizona, but that just tells me that he’s able to pitch at this point. The competition was pretty overmatched, as it should have been.
stlcard25ParticipantReally good stuff this round, and yet another close vote! So get your votes in prior to the deadline at 12 PM CT/1 PM ET!!
stlcard25ParticipantMy vote for #10 is Jurrangelo Cijntje, RHP. He’s right there with a shot to make the majors this year. He just needs to pitch like he did the last month and a half at Memphis.
stlcard25ParticipantClosing out the voting here after our tiebreaking vote came in…your 2027 TCN Community #9 prospect is Yhoiker Fajardo, RHP. Congratulations to the 20 year old on a strong showing!
1. Rainiel Rodriguez, C
2. Quinn Mathews, LHP
3. Liam Doyle, LHP
4. Leo Bernal, C
5. Joshua Baez, OF
6. Tanner Franklin, RHP
7. Cooper Hjerpe, LHP
8. Jesus Baez, IF
9. Yhoiker Fajardo, RHPVoting is now open for the #10 prospect. This will be our last solo vote. Voting will close at 12 PM CT/1 PM ET on Monday, October 26th.
stlcard25ParticipantAdding some comments from my writeup about Fajardo…
Fajardo has been pushed aggressively since being acquired in the Willson Contreras trade, and his mature arsenal and results have held up very well. He started off in Peoria, where he had great results early before fading a little as the season got to its midway point (1.69 ERA in April, fading to 5.75 in July, although the peripherals were about the same). This suggests that maybe the staff had him working on something at the midway point and felt like he was handling it well, because he was promoted to Springfield and into that very crowded rotation in late July, where he proceeded to pitch pretty much like you would expect a 19 year old at a new advanced level to pitch. The Ks came down, but the walks also did. He acquitted himself well enough to start in both of Springfield’s playoff series.
Yhoiker features a fastball with solid velocity, but without ideal shape, that he controls really well, an excellent slider, and a very good changeup. He commands it all very well for a pitcher of his age and that has allowed his stuff to play up at lower levels. It will be interesting to see how he responds to a second visit to Springfield and the shot to pitch with the big league ball in later 2027, if that occurs. His fastball does limit his upside more than the two guys in front of him, but he has a pretty good floor considering his age and control. He feels like an under the radar #5 sort of pitcher who will probably give up some dingers, but also have a year where the wind and barrels fall in his favor and he puts up a 3.50 ERA and starts a playoff game.
stlcard25ParticipantToo bad Roby is being sent home.
I think they’ve shown what they need to with him, and he passed the test with flying colors. Hopefully he can stay healthy over the winter and contribute to the big league club in 2027.
stlcard25ParticipantWe have a few more hours left to vote, and once again, voting is tight, so get your votes in as soon as you can!
stlcard25ParticipantIt’s good to see Roby and Elissalt doing pretty much what they should do against lower level competition in Arizona. I look at these as rehab assignments. It doesn’t change their standing a whole lot for me from where I had them prior to the AFL, but it doesn’t hurt them at least.
stlcard25Participant#9 for me is once again, Jurrangelo Cijntje, RHP. I can’t wait until the #11/12 voting so I can vote for someone else finally.
stlcard25ParticipantClosing out the voting, in yet another hotly contested vote, your #8 prospect in the 2027 TCN Community Top Prospect Voting is Jesus Baez, IF. Nicely done, Mr Baez.
1. Rainiel Rodriguez, C
2. Quinn Mathews, LHP
3. Liam Doyle, LHP
4. Leo Bernal, C
5. Joshua Baez, OF
6. Tanner Franklin, RHP
7. Cooper Hjerpe, LHP
8. Jesus Baez, IFVoting is now open for the #9 prospect. Voting will close at 12 PM CT/1 PM ET on Thursday, October 23rd.
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