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Shady – still waiting for your statistical analyses of Saggese, Scott, and Prieto. Looking forward to seeing why you’re so high on them. Maybe some quotes from a few scouting reports too? Thanks very much.
IMHO, I’d rank last July’s pitching additions as follows –
1.) Roby
2.) Kloffenstein
3.) Robberse
4.) Showalter
5.) RomPugs – it stands for President of Baseball Operations. Mo’s title.
The final on Rom today – 9 hits and 4 runs in 2 1/3 innings. Not exactly a sterling performance.
Shady – You seem to be high on Prieto, too. What stats give you such a good opinion? Thanks very much.
He may not last the length of the contract. They may have to eat some of it if they let him go after another bad season or two.
I feel the Cardinals would do better with a more experienced manager. One who wasn’t handed the job with only a high A managing job on his resume. But I don’t make fun of the POBO by purposely calling him by the name of one of the three stooges.
That’s kids’ stuff.t8ball12 – Yes, all of the trolling by these new posters bothers us, because we have seen what it has done to other forums. Our sincere desire is that it is caught in the bud and stopped by the moderators.
The spelling “Moe” bothers some of us posters. If allowed, it will get worse. Attacking Mo starts the trend, then attacking other posters will follow.
Absolutely, JJ. The perfect strategy.
Maybe a pitcher who’s just entering his expensive first arbitration year on a low budget team.Comparing Molina with almost 2,000 major league plate appearances by the time he was 25 to Burleson who has around 400?
Sorry, UConn. Just don’t care for the obvious reference to one of the 3 stooges when Mo’s name is purposely spelled “Moe”. It’s a needless putdown. He’s had a long and distinguished career with the Cardinals organization and been deeply involved in many of the successes.
Shady – what’s the top speed on his 4 seam fastball? What’s its rating?
And what are the ratings on his other pitches? That will give us a much clearer picture. Thanks very much.In 972 minor league plate appearances, he only struck out 169 times (17%). Gotta like that contact rate for a guy who hit 42 home runs in those 972 plate appearances.
We just have different opinions. I think he’s a pretty good athlete and can improve now that it’s clear what he needs to do to stay at the major league level. And he has a decent arm. He also pitched at ECU.
Burleson’s slash line at AAA –
.306/.356/.482/.842
24 home runs and 109 RBI in 154 games. And that was really mostly in his second professional season. I wouldn’t hang my hat on his major league record after only 400 plate
appearances. Just my opinion. And I also think he will be able to handle LF and 1B. He may not look like it, but he’s an athlete.Rom has 532 strike outs in 450 2/3 innings in his minor league career. But he’s also given up 162 walks in those 450 2/3 innings. So with a career ERA of 3.71 he ends up with a WHIP of 1.314. Last season at Norfolk, he gave up 46 walks in 86 innings pitched. Ouch. He’s got some talent but needs better control. If he gains that, he could be a decent asset.
Too much for one player. Roby has 1-3 potential as a future starter. Saggese was anointed the top 2nd baseman in the entire minor leagues last season.
Burly’s bat could be exciting going forward.It seems like Burleson, with his emphasis on losing weight and increasing speed could be okay in left field. And he also might become a fairly decent first baseman.
Let’s take a little closer look at Burleson, instead of just having personal opinions about him.
He was drafted in the 2nd round by the Cardinals in 2020 out of East Carolina University. Although limited to only 17 games for the Pirates because of the pandemic that season, he slashed .375/.440/.547/.987. Hit 3 home runs.
His first professional season, 2021, was a whirlwind. After only 11 games at high A Peoria, he was promoted to AA Springfield. After 63 games there with a .822 OPS, he was promoted again to AAA Memphis where he played 45 games to finish the season. Three levels in his first season. Very few Cardinal prospects that I remember have ended up at the AAA level after only 74 professional games.
Then in 2022, he was allowed to stabilize and settle into Memphis for most of the season. He had a great season, slashing .331/.372/.502/.905, with 20 home runs and 87 RBI in only
109 games. He was so impressive that he was promoted to the Cardinals for
16 games in September.In 2023, he spot played for the major league team throughout the season as he adjusted to Major league pitching.
So he should now have his feet on the ground, and after just under 400 major league plate appearances under his belt, be pretty well set for a good 2024.
