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March 1, 2020 at 10:50 am #123842
Looks doubtful for Yairo Muñoz on opening day lineup. Felt a “pop” in hamstring. Going to take awhile to recover. “Hamstrings take awhile,” Shildt says. #cardinals #stlcards
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) March 1, 2020
March 1, 2020 at 11:43 am #123847It always amazes me how after 4 and 1/2 months off players come to Spring Training and are either hurt when they get here or get hurt during Spring Training.
I’d say its too much conditioning. Maybe our players should do like Herzog used to say, just eat hot dogs and drink beer during the off season and take it easy. It seemed to work for George Herman Ruth.
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March 2, 2020 at 12:01 pm #123904In fairness, Rat, the Babe ate hot dogs and drank beer during the games.
March 3, 2020 at 6:29 pm #1239691982 willie
Participantwell to be honest, I feel we have better options this year than munoz so while I don’t wish him bad. I think we are just fine in that regard anyway.
March 7, 2020 at 8:52 am #124163All I can say is WOW! Yairo Munoz being placed on unconditional release waivers opens up a 40-man roster spot. Gee, I wonder what the #stlcards might use that for?
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 7, 2020
March 7, 2020 at 8:55 am #124165Tomorrow is the deadline to release a player without having to pay his entire guaranteed salary. #stlcards will only have to pay Muñoz 1/6 of his deal, which had not yet been finalized.
— Jeff Jones (@jmjones) March 7, 2020
March 7, 2020 at 8:57 am #124166
stlcard25ParticipantWell, that is an interesting move, to be sure. I felt like Munoz was an odd man out in that he’s a mediocre defender and an ok hitter. The Cards have better options.
Also, is it known that there will be some addition to the 40 man? I feel like I’m missing something, from your tweet.
March 7, 2020 at 9:03 am #124168He left the team, flew home. Never contacted team. Agent tells #cardinals Munoz was frustrated with his role, “saw writing on the wall.” https://t.co/FxMQMRCxPH
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) March 7, 2020
March 7, 2020 at 9:05 am #124170
stlcard25ParticipantOuch. I get that all these guys are used to being the top dog, but that’s an expensive gig to quit out of frustration.
March 7, 2020 at 9:05 am #124171stlcard25 said:
Also, is it known that there will be some addition to the 40 man? I feel like I’m missing something, from your tweet.
Well, there is only one non-roster invitee in camp posing a serious bid to make the team. Some kid named Carlson…
March 7, 2020 at 9:07 am #124172Young people can make bad decisions. Munoz would have opened the season on the MLB injured list, making MLB salary until he would likely eventually go down to Memphis. One injury and he is right back.
Nothing has changed since the day Brad Miller was signed…
March 7, 2020 at 9:09 am #124174Well, he had an inside track to a spot on the IL, at least…
According to manager Mike Shildt, Muñoz had an inside track to a roster spot. He complained many times about playing time last season, Shildt added. https://t.co/UUmPqF86Ff
— Mark Saxon (@markasaxon) March 7, 2020
March 7, 2020 at 9:14 am #124176
stlcard25ParticipantWell, there is only one non-roster invitee in camp posing a serious bid to make the team. Some kid named Carlson…
D’oh!! Somehow I forgot that Dylan wasn’t already on the 40 man. Please don’t revoke my fan card…😬
March 7, 2020 at 9:15 am #124177
stlcard25ParticipantYoung people can make bad decisions. Munoz would have opened the season on the MLB injured list, making MLB salary until he would likely eventually go down to Memphis. One injury and he is right back.
Nothing has changed since the day Brad Miller was signed…
Yeah, you hope that this is something he will grow up and learn from. Definitely an expensive decision. From the Cards’ perspective, he’s basically a pure depth player so I don’t think it harms the team much.
March 7, 2020 at 9:19 am #124178As more reports come out, it seems clear this release is all about Munoz and nothing should be read into it about Carlson, other than it puts even more pressure on the front office to put him on the team.
March 7, 2020 at 10:10 am #124187Munoz going away is not a big loss…we will be fine without him.
March 7, 2020 at 10:54 am #124198Even if the Cards released Munoz for other reasons it certainly clears a path now for Carlson.
March 7, 2020 at 11:18 am #124200As long as everyone’s healthy, this likely makes Sosa the everyday Memphis shortstop, Schrock the second sacker, and resignee Ascanio moves up a notch in pecking order. I imagine the Cards would look at the waiver wire for minor league infield depth. Possibly a trade?
March 7, 2020 at 11:25 am #1242011982 willie
ParticipantSeems like he was unhappy with his playing time. As error proned as he was, he should have been thankful to have opportunities at all. He wont be missed and down the road, few will even remember his name. We already have people in the organization to take his place so no need to go looking for more ok players.
March 7, 2020 at 11:26 am #124202I don’t think this move has anything to do with Carlson. This was just a knee-jerk, boneheaded move by Munoz. Maybe the young man will get a chance with another organization but it is not a good look for him.
It does make the Piscotty trade look a little worse though.
March 7, 2020 at 12:46 pm #124213While no Rex Hudler he was better than the likes of Bo Hart and a few dozen others that have made this Team. He always played hard. Appeared to be a good teammate. Not a good decision on his part.
March 7, 2020 at 1:00 pm #124216But why realease waivers and not just simply waivers to remove him from the 40 man roster? Don’t like the precedent of complain and we will make you a FA.
March 7, 2020 at 1:39 pm #124217I would be more unhappy if they didnt want playing time.
March 7, 2020 at 1:49 pm #124219CC said:
But why realease waivers and not just simply waivers to remove him from the 40 man roster? Don’t like the precedent of complain and we will make you a FA.
Well… #1, he left the team a week ago, skipping a scheduled MRI and did not tell anyone. #2, as noted in my article, tomorrow is apparently a deadline for having to guarantee his salary. #3, in a general sense, if teams acted punitively, a grievance would be filed by the Players’ Association.
March 7, 2020 at 2:10 pm #124222#2, as noted in my article, tomorrow is apparently a deadline for having to guarantee his salary.
This is the one. When depth reaches a certain level, fungibility has little value.
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