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stlcard25ParticipantLeake with the reach tips two straight hits and turns one into an infield hit. Wong with a nice play on the other.
stlcard25ParticipantHe did pretty well last year though. I do agree that it’s certainly a red flag for him.
Btw he has a double and a triple in his last two games. Gotta have something to build on and hopefully he learns from this humbling experience and gets to work realizing his talent.
stlcard25ParticipantGrichuk is a guy who can be a boon, but to me is clearly too streaky for an every day job. He may be slightly better than Martinez but not much. I think a change of scenery would be good at this point.
stlcard25ParticipantAlcantara’s strikeouts are way down this year. Hudson isn’t striking many out either. We’ve seen Junior Fernandez and Jordan Hicks with low K rates as well. What gives? You would expect these guys to be overpowering hitters with their stuff…is it some sort of organizational philosophy for guys to work on pitching to contact?
stlcard25ParticipantCole has been a bit up and down this year but is always a threat. Hopefully Leake can toss a good game and the bats can get going.
stlcard25ParticipantA bit concerning, since they mentioned his velocity was down. Maybe giving him his shot until Duke returns. I don’t know that we need 4 lefties in the pen at that point though.
stlcard25ParticipantI’ve never felt Quintana was all that great. He is certainly better than what they have in their rotation but that’s a pretty high cost.
Hopefully he goes winless the rest of the year. ?
stlcard25ParticipantI agree with you on most of these points. A guy like Stanton helps fix a lot of holes. The main concern with him is of course the cost of that contract. I do think a lineup with him crushing homers at cleanup would make our 1-5 pretty formidable though.
stlcard25ParticipantNot to mention Benson who is off to a nice start at State College, with the homer tonight.
stlcard25ParticipantThat’s why I have no interest in viewing their site anymore. Watching videos for everything is a pain in the butt.
stlcard25ParticipantKind of like the WBC, I get the feeling that Yadi really thrives when he can play hard and have fun. The grind of the MLB regular season doesn’t seem to allow for much of that, so perhaps the breather is why he’s been so good in these types of formats.
stlcard25ParticipantI’d like to see Monty get a shot as well. Seems like as good a time as any.
July 10, 2017 at 4:45 pm in reply to: Joel Sherman Suggests the Cardinals Should Trade Carlos Martinez #27251
stlcard25ParticipantEven if offered 4 top 100 guys I don’t think I would pull the trigger. Martinez is becoming one of the better pitches in the bigs and he’s only 25. I wouldn’t feel comfortable trading him for anything less than at least one sure thing and two more high end guys. Even that Yankees group…Torres is the only one I would feel good about as I think Frazier won’t be that good and Mateo struggles to hit. Rutherford could be a keeper but he’s far away. Cmart is something between a 4-5 win pitcher in all likelihood and to give away 6 years of that would really require a monster haul. Even bigger than what Sale went for, IMO.
July 10, 2017 at 10:50 am in reply to: Joel Sherman Suggests the Cardinals Should Trade Carlos Martinez #27186
stlcard25ParticipantI would contend that the team isn’t going to wait 3 more years to contend again and will probably be back at it as soon as next year. To trade Martinez would be silly and guarantee at least a three year turnaround. I can’t see that happening.
stlcard25ParticipantHopefully just precaution with a decent lead and the All Star break coming up.
stlcard25ParticipantGood early start for the Cards. The Pham homer and another by scorching hot Dejong puts them up 4-0 in the 4th.
stlcard25ParticipantIt has changed…the Cards would get a pick only if Lynn would sign for >$50m, I believe.
stlcard25ParticipantI don’t think this roster is terribly far off from being quite good. That said, there’s no reason not to explore what you can get for your impending free agents. I would imagine Lynn and Oh would collect at least a couple top 100 type guys in return. Rosenthal is another guy who will be pretty pricey next year and the production can probably be approximated with the right moves this offseason. Gyorko and Wong are sell high candidates. Carpenter might even be expendable. I hope they wouldn’t trade all these guys but a shuffle probably won’t hurt.
On the other side, if there is some low hanging fruit, I think you have to explore that as well. A guy like Donaldson or Quintana or one of the A’s may be a fit if we are collecting prospects in other trades. A bit of a retool of the lineup (and maybe the coaching staff) and you could have a contender again in 2018.
stlcard25ParticipantCoupled with the Brewers almost certain win, they’re going to be 6.5 games back after tonight. It’s very very close to time to sell and I think the FO knows it. If things stay stagnant a week after the break, I suspect they’re going to be looking to move guys.
stlcard25ParticipantAnd thus concludes the chances that they’ll finish the first half at .500. It’s bitterly disappointing to lose game after game with your supposed ace on the mound.
stlcard25Participant4 homers by the Cards and it’s not enough to get Cmart in line for the win. Really not Carlos’ best work. He needs some rest badly.
stlcard25ParticipantCarlos not really sharp early and gives up a couple runs.
Grichuk and Dejong with back to back jacks though…2-2.
stlcard25ParticipantDefinitely could use a bounce back start from Cmart. deGrom has pitched well of late and it wouldn’t be surprising to see a low scoring game.
stlcard25ParticipantFlaherty with his bump in velocity and dominant performance at Springfield prob has the best case.
If someone will value Alcantara as a top 50 guy and let us keep Flaherty in w trade, I’m all in.
stlcard25ParticipantOh closes it out…4-3 Cards. Good overall job by the bullpen today. Need a sweep of the Mets to feel good going into the break.
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