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stlcard25ParticipantOh coming in to face the heart of the order. Nervous time…
stlcard25ParticipantIt proved crucial already. Lyons wasn’t sharp and Cecil couldn’t get Ozuna…4-3 Cards.
stlcard25ParticipantThat extra run could prove huge.
Carpenter seems to be most affected by the shift of anyone this year. He is torching the ball but it always seems to be right at someone. The final out of the 6th is a great example.
stlcard25ParticipantVoit looking good today. He’s a big man and maybe he becomes the guy we all hoped Adams would be.
July 6, 2017 at 12:25 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #26803
stlcard25ParticipantThe only way I really want to see a trade for Stanton is if they’re certain they won’t be players for anyone after 2018 or 2019. Would hate to see $30m a year plunked down on one guy (who really hasn’t been a superstar but for one season, some of it due to injuries) and then have zero payroll room to get a legit star in the next two loaded FA classes.
I suppose if you manage to trade away Fowler and Carpenter, that offsets the salary…I’m still of the opinion that Carp hitting in front of a true slugger is a very dangerous hitter (he was leading the league in OPS last year before his oblique injury) and would prefer not to trade him unless they can get a big return. VEB did an analysis not long ago on what value you might fairly get in a trade and Carpenter was not worth very much by that metric. Like, 1 back end top 100 guy-low value. I was a little shocked.
stlcard25ParticipantThen why can’t both be done at once? I agree it’s unacceptable to give away talent for nothing. Getting 1.5 years and possibly 8 WAR from Donaldson would be more than we would probably get from trading Gyorko on his own (not to mention he’s a regression candidate and has tailed off from his hot start). We could trade him separately and hope to get a star we can develop…or just use him to get the actual star.
So, just to get some clarity…your position is that we should sell off our players at the deadline, then…replace them with call ups, see how they pan out and then decide what other moves need to be made?
stlcard25ParticipantHow is acquiring an elite talent by cleaning out the extra parts not part of a good plan? Who says we couldn’t trade Gyorko plus 3 prospects for Donaldson and then turn around and trade Lynn, Oh, Rosie and maybe Grichuk or potentially Diaz or Wong to ease the log jam? This would remove some of the chaff while still giving the team a good floor and plenty of flexibility for the big 2018 and 2019 offseason.
All I’ve heard from you is “tank and hope for the best.” I’m sure you know this but throwing away proven performers for prospects doesn’t always work and unless you’re happy with the Cincinnati Reds approach, perhaps the FO should be given some leeway to continue to do what they have been doing.
stlcard25ParticipantGyorko and Wong alone outvalue two years of Donaldson. Also think the glut of pitching would mean the Cards would overpay pitching to avoid trading Perez (as would I). Regardless, it seems like a long shot.
stlcard25ParticipantNot to mention Sierra and Mercado looking good at Springfield and Garcia acclimating well in Memphis. Perhaps not this year but by next All Star break there could be quite the backlog of ML ready OFers.
stlcard25ParticipantYes please.
I’d start with whichever the Jays prefer of Gyorko or Wong, throw in Weaver, Bader and pick of Hicks or Alcantara. A pretty heavy price but one well worth paying. This lineup badly needs a consistent impact bat.
stlcard25ParticipantI suspect that Grichuk is in his last run as a potential starter in the OF now. I could easily see them making him the 4th OF or trading him to an OF-starved team (Royals?) this offseason.
As for Bader, he’s got a similar profile to Grichuk but the contact skills look a little better. I would be cool with giving him a shot before long, although with the return of Fowler and Pham’s play, I’m not sure where you put him (Piscotty hasn’t looked that good but I think he’ll perk up).
stlcard25ParticipantI like Carpenter-Pham in the first two spots. It sets the tone for the lineup as both guys have some on base skills and pop. Piscotty is sort of stuck at #3, although if he comes around he would be a great asset there with his (traditionally) strong RISP hitting.
stlcard25ParticipantInteresting. Are there any other guys that would be realistic options at that price tag??
stlcard25ParticipantLuke Voit with his first career MLB dinger. Where is bccran at to celebrate??
stlcard25ParticipantSheesh, time to pull Waino. Can’t let the Marlins back in the game.
stlcard25ParticipantWaino with a good start so far too…6 strikeouts and no runs through 3. Would be nice to have him be consistently decent.
stlcard25ParticipantGood start for the offense…4-0 after 1. Lots of hits off Locke…you’ve gotta figure the team can hit a lefty pretty well with this lineup.
stlcard25ParticipantThis is a very winnable game…and one we need to get if we want a shot at .500 by the AS break.
stlcard25ParticipantI like it. Put your best arms in the position to help you win. I’m sure he’s gonna be the first guy in tonight if Waino struggles (hopefully he won’t).
stlcard25ParticipantAs the song says…2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
.Cmart has faltered and given up two 2 run bombs to spoil the battle of the “aces.” Meanwhile, Scherzer has struck out 5 of the 6 batters he has faced.
stlcard25ParticipantPretty sure that strike 3 call was a ball and Yadi convinced the ump it was a strike. I’ll take it. Man, Rosenthal is nerve wracking.
stlcard25ParticipantWacha with his best start of the season.
Still, Mejia is the star of the game so far with both RBIs. Rosie in for the 9th.
stlcard25ParticipantSorry, I already used my first post elsewhere. Ha. I’m here though!
stlcard25ParticipantA nice mix of arms going tonight. It’s like the all-underrated team with Pearce, Woodford and O’Reilly all pitching.
Delvin Perez is really off to a slow start at Johnson City. Hopefully he’ll kick it into gear at the plate soon.
stlcard25ParticipantThanks for the answers, Brian. I appreciate the time you gave put into getting this new place ready to go.
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