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The Gastellum trade was made only because there are zero consequences for this trade turning out a bust, even though it defies logic.
I heard some grousing about Nolan Gorman being awarded the 3B job, but none about Jordan Walker being awarded the RF job.
For their careers:
Gorman – 4 seasons – positive 3.5 career WAR, one season with an OPS above .800, 0 seasons with and OPS below .600.
Walker – 3 seasons – (negative 2.7 career WAR), zero seasons with an OPS above .800, 1 season with an OPS below .600The Cardinals brought in Urias to back up / compete with Gorman. Who have they brought in to back up / compete with Walker?
Not to mention, the Cardinals infield is still overflowing…
Plus the fact that he really wasn’t a highly rated prospect coming through the system.
What does that have to do with it? He’s out-produced just about all of our first and second rounds over the past decade, all of whom were more highly rated than him.
I havent had a chance to read the article yet and will later, but $5 million is disappointing to me. I know in the past they like to leave some money for later signing and maybe that will be the case, but $3 million is a lot of left over space.
Yes, but the Cardinals are poor now. They have to live on a budget.
Rounds 11-20 are a different animal. 1-10 is a better comparison, IMO.
Okay. So, the Cardinals have $15.1 million for rounds 1-10.
Based on last year’s slot values:
Pick Value
13 $5,520,000
32 $2,970,000
50 $1,930,000
68 $1,220,000
72 $1,150,000
86 $920,800
115 $661,100
148 $479,800
178 $364,800
208 $285,200
238 $229,000
268 $203,500
298 $191,300
Rounds 11-20 $1,500,000$17,625,500
I think this is what the Cardinals hope to do with him. He apparently wants to keep pitching from both sides.
Did Bloom say that though? He seemed to acknowledge the Cardinals were interested in allowing Cijntje to continue pitching from both sides, but I don’t think he said their development plan is for him to throw 75% of his pitches from his strong side.
We know Seattle wanted him to throw nearly 100% from his weak side in 2026…
I was asked by a local StL TV guy Monday night if I think Cijntje will be the no. 1 or no. 2 starter. The conversation ended quickly when I replied, “neither”. My best hope is he can become a middle of the rotation guy.
This is what I don’t get about the “development” people in MLB.
Let’s say Cijntje could be a #3 starter with his weak side, because he spent two years in collage and one year in the minors throwing anywhere from 75-100% of his pitches with his weak side. Hs fastball with his weak side went from 92 to 99 during that timeframe.
Wouldn’t his upside be higher if he threw 75-100% of his pitches with his strong side?
What are you afraid of LA?
I hate stupidity. And it is stupid to guarantee the worst player on the team a starting postion.
The bills are already coming due. 95% of the deferred money has to be placed into an account within two years of being earned.
In other words, the Dodgers gain little competitive advantage by using deferrals, and people complaining about their $1 billion in deferred contracts are making much ado about nothing.
On deferrals, please provide some numbers for context. The article shared yesterday states the Dodgers have almost $1.1 BILLION in deferrals. My wild guess is that is more money than the other 29 teams in total.
$680 million of those deferrals are Ohtani, who was in a unique situation because of his endorsement deals.
I would agree, even the other $400 million in deferrals is probably larger than all other clubs combined, and Guggenheim can do that because of their financial backing.
But when those bills come due, the Dodgers are going to struggle to maintain their competitive advantage.
Am I the only one that doesn’t understand the need for renovations and particularly having tax payer money go to it?
Because billionaires cannot be expected to invest in their private businesses that they run for personal profit when they can get the working class to pay for their business.
DeWitt started floating the idea of public funding for renovations two years ago. Now that he is an MLB welfare recipient, he expects to be a taxpayer welfare recipient as well.
He made reference that the Cardinals might seek funds from the state legislature like the Chiefs and Royals did.
DeWitt is quickly becoming the welfare king of the midwest.
First, he joined the MLB welfare club. Now, he wants taxpayers to fund his private business, so he can make more money.
The billionaire way.
It’s really sad to be hoping for average.
Here is where the Cardinals lost their way. They used to field a team with average-ish players from top to bottom, and they could win the weak NL Central year-in, year-out.
Now, they chase guys like Jordan Walker with high upside but terrible fundamentals, and five out of the starting nine can’t even OPS .700. A few years ago, we were looking at the prospect of Edman and Bader being the worst hitters on the team (with OPS’ in the low .700’s).
Getting back to average is the first step of returning the club to winning.
I am all for giving Walker Spring training plus roughly a month and a half to see if he can at least hit and field at major league average (or some balance of the two that equals average). If he doesn’t, send him down with his final option for a last-ditch chance to attempt to fix his swing at Memphis. I am confident that he could be at least an average fielder in RF. But the hitting part is a mystery.
What’s the definition of insanity?
The Cardinals destroyed the franchise when they inserted Walker into RF. The sooner they wake up to that reality, the better.
but assuming Austin Hays isn’t horrible there, I would target him. I would much prefer him over Andujar who others have mentioned as he is basically Jordan Walker but 5 years from now. A ton of hype, power in the bat with bad contact skils and horrible in the field
Agreed.
I think three of the top options for RH OF are:
1. Miguel Andujar
2. Austin Hays
3. Harrison BaderAll three are platoon players offensively against LH pitching.
Bader has actually been better against right-handed pitching the last two years. This past season, he had an .845 OPS against right handers vs .689 against left-handers.
I also think a floor is necessary too though as the cheap owners are just as much of a problem.
I think the welfare queens are a bigger problem.
I think the Dodgers will cause the rest of the owners to demand a salary cap.
One third of the owners are now receiving welfare checks nearly as much as they spend on the field. Do you think they are going to vote against their own self-interest? DeWitt clearly prioritizes profit over winning, as do all the welfare recipients.
It is at the point that there is no way half of the league can compete regularly.
The perpetual welfare queens, like the A’s, Marlins, Rays & Pirates never try to compete, period. They try to maximize their welfare dollars and minimize their payroll spend.
Cardinals fans can rejoice! DeWitt will be saving another $11 million over the next two years!
Bill is going to be amazed at how much more money he makes by running a low-payroll club than a mid-tier payroll club.
To the welfare line we go!!!
For all the people saying Boston & Seattle should trade for Arenado, if you were the GM of those clubs, and you were making $1 million per year to be the GM, would you risk your job and trade for Arenado or would you run with your rookies and prospects?
He is more of a proven quantity.
Is everybody aware of how age affects a player’s ability on the field?
What does the Age 35 diagram tell us in this model? 2 WAR Seasons by Age Bracket
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So, everybody around here believes:
1) Arenado is bad, and his contract is underwater, but other teams should want to trade for him because he is good
2) The Cardinals have better options led by failed former Top 100 prospect Nolan Gorman entering his fifth season in the majors
3) Even though Arenado has already experienced age-related decline, and is already one of the worst major-league third basemen in the league, he will not further decline in his age-35 season
4) Arenado, despite being worse than Gorman, is better than the former Top 100’s in Boston and Seattle respectively, even though they have only had one season in the majors
5) Arenado is also better than the top prospects in AAA for each of those teamsI am just not seeing any logic in these arguments.
I could see Arenado going to Boston but if the Cardinals were smart they would not include Donovan.
Why do you see the Red Sox preferring Arenado over Marcelo Mayer, Kristian Campbell & Mikey Romero?
Boston has former top 100 prospect Marcelo Mayer on the roster, and has Mikey Romero at AAA (Boston’s #6). Simply no need for a declining Arenado, unless the Cardinals are including Donovan for a bucket of balls. Supposedly, the Cardinals trades for Contreras and Gray were about saving money, and the Cardinals trade of Donovan is about maximizing the prospect haul.
I saw a Bregman article suggesting that since Boston could use both a second baseman and third baseman, a package deal for Arenado and Donovan could be possible.
I don’t see any contending team trading for Arenado. I think it’s more likely Boston pursues Paredes for 3B and Donovan for 2B.
Some would be disappointed, using Donovan’s perceived value to buy down the cost of moving Arenado. But I think that if anybody was going to offer a compelling return for Donovan in a stand-alone deal, it would have happened already.
Donovan’s trade market has been held up by the Bregman decision. Now that Bregman has signed with Chicago, I would expect Donovan to be relatively quickly, unless Boston is seriously bidding on Bichette.
