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I wonder who else will have to be protected for the rule 5; I believe Junior Fernandez, Daniel Poncedeleon, Matt Pearce, Arturo Reyes, Kevin Herget, Trey Neilson, Anthony Garcia, Chris Ellis, Tyler Bray, Andrew Morales, Derian Gonzalez and Ian McKinney just to name a few.
I agree with CC that O’Neill, Mercado, Gomber and Seferina must be protected. San Diego is lurking a drooling over our farm system.
Don’t understand the love for Nick Plummer. He showed absolutely no signs of improvement. I know he missed the previous season but still. His second half was as bad as the first. He struck out 39% of the time and hit .198. He didn’t have eye surgery, but then he could become the next Oscar Mercado in 2018 and I’ll be eating my words.
CC. I’ll be the first to admit that I wouldn’t have voted for Brebbia, Patrick Wishom or Alex Mejia, had we gone to 100. I think I did vote for Sherriff and I was sure I had voted for Jose Martinez, but if Pads says no, then I didn’t, but he was on my list. I don’t believe Mejia will see the majors again, but I could totally be wrong. Our best relief pitcher in Memphis was Mark Montgomery, but because of his age and availability on the 40-man he didn’t get a shot. Whose to say he doesn’t make the Cardinal bullpen out of spring training next season! Wisdom had a career year in Memphis and could go in the rule 5 (along with Valera) if we don’t protect them…but will we? Mike Mayers, I expect will go in the first trade they can unload him in, so he’s not a guy I’ll vote for. Like I said, age bias for the most part. Brebbia was certainly a find for the scouting department and an eye opener for those of us who believe that if they signed out of an Independent league then they have 0% chance. Now I think they may have found another gem in Zach Prendergast.
Geez, I forgot to mention Ryan Sherriff too.
Lets go to 75! We went 70 last year and still missed Jose Martinez and John Brebbia. Apparently we are all showing ‘age’ bias in our voting.
41. Evan Kruczynski
42. Ryan Sherriff
43. Elehuris Montero – Showed some power potential this year and was voted by Baseball America as the 9th best prospect in the GCL; ahead of Machado, who was rated 18th.
44. Yuan Yepez – Okay, so I hated the trade, however, this kid has sneaky potential in all areas.
45. Breyvic Valera – Nothing more to prove in the minors, but my gut tells me he might be sacrificed off the 40-man roster for another prospect with higher potential.Gotta make sure my vote is counted;
36. Matt Pearce –
37. Scott Hurst –
38. Evan Kruczynski – The only pitcher to debut in Peoria from the 2017 draft and he more then held his own. His numbers were comparable to Oxnevad, except his 3.41era was much better.
39. Jeremy Martinez – I think the org was too aggressive in his promotion right from the start of the season. Let’s hope it didn’t stunt his development a la Pete Kozma.
40. Ryan Sherriff – He’s made the Show and proved he belonged. Lefty relievers are always in demand. Look what happened with Sam Freeman. No reason Sherriff can’t do the same.31. Matt Pearce
32. Evan Mendoza
33. Scott Hurst
34. Evan Kruczynski
35. Jeremy MartinezPads: I will be away until Tuesday, so if you would be so kind as to include these as my 36 – 40 picks, I’d appreciate that. Just cross off anyone in the 31/35 selections who get picked and add the remainder to the next list followed by these (in order)
Ryan Sherriff
Daniel Poncedeleon
Chase Pinder
Wadye Ynfante
Elehuris MonteroThanking you in advance.
This should get interesting now; divergent opinions.
26. Edman
27. Pearce
28. Seferina
29. Kramer Robertson – Right into A ball from the draft and never looked out of place.
30. Evan Mendoza – Was there a better player on State College; .370ba and .431obp. They had no choice but to send him up to Peoria, where he matched Robertson.Last year I pushed for Jose Martinez, but no one would go with me on that. Instead we ranked the other Jose Martinez (ss) who I’m sure won’t get a sniff this year. So I’m with you on your thinking. However, Sherriff (who I’ve voted for in other years) is down a little on my list as of yet.
My bad, I didn’t realize we were playing by a different set of rules. I need to pay more attention. My apologies to all.
How can Luke Voit be still considered a rookie? According to baseball rules; he loses rookie status when he has accumulated more then 45 days on the active roster, not including Sept. He way exceeded that total and was removed from MLB’s (Mayo’s) 30 top prospects list 2 months ago.
Before my time CC, however, I recall that there was criticism when Lance came up that he didn’t have a good enough pitch selection; he walked too many. Expectations, regardless of his draft selection, didn’t seem to be too high when he was called up. Fans didn’t seem to be too enamored with him, in spite of the fact that all he did was win. I loved the guy right from the start and I hope they resign him, but I doubt that will happen because of the wealth of pitchers being rated on here.
So okay, I over-stated Matt Pearce’s worth with the Lynn comparison.
September 29, 2017 at 4:29 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #34518I love, love, love Josh Donaldson’s game. His acting, well that’s a different story. However, he’s a very intelligent player on both offence and defense. He’s a winner because of the effort he puts forward. I don’t think he’ll sign an extension in Toronto due to the fact he knows uber-prospect Vlad Guerrero Jr. will be ready in 2019. I do believe he would sign a long-term (I wouldn’t do more then 5 years because of his age and how hard he plays) deal with us if we trade for him.
The Blue Jays are old and need an influx in talent, especially the outfield and starting pitching. I trade them Jedd Gyorko and his power replacement for Josh, along with Jack Flaherty and Jose Adolis Garcia.
September 29, 2017 at 4:12 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #34517Didn’t Mark McGwire, Jim Edmonds, Matt Holliday, Scott Rolen, Edgar Renteria, Darryl Kyle, Woody Williams, Larry Walker etc. Wasn’t it always the case that as soon as they got that ‘Birds on the Bat’ jersey on, they fell in love with it?
21. Edman
22. Sosa
23. Oviedo
24. Matt Pearce – Year after year the man gets zero respect and all he does is out-perform many others on his way up the system. I think Matt Pearce, I think Lance Lynn, he wasn’t expected to do anything but maybe be an okay 5th starter. Anyone care to argue his success?!
25. Darren Seferina – Maybe the best kept secret in the system. Hey everyone, this guy is very, very good. Good with the glove, gap power to go with his speed, decent contact hitter.21-22 Tommy Edmando Sosa
16. Mercado – Gotta stick with my one-hit wonder.
17. Fernandez –
18. Tommy Edman – I loved what he did last season and nothing’s changed this year. Showed well at Peoria and got promoted to PB. When Sosa got injured, Tommy jumped another level to Spr. When Sosa came back, it was he, not Edman who got demoted to PB. Come playoff time, there he is on the Memphis roster. Promoted above his development in my book, however, he’s more dynamic then Sosa. Had 35xbh and 13sb.
19. Edmundo Sosa – hey he’s still very consistent. Even without power he’s still an above average talent.
20. Dylan Carlson – Started very badly in Peoria because he was young for that level, but he did turn the season around. I believe he will be a major break-out player in 2018.Well I did well on that last segment, so let’s keep it going.
11. Mercado – Did he just have a good segment or did he finally click in? I’m going with the cream has risen to the top.
12. Junior Fernandez – Not his best season for development, but I’m cutting him some slack.
13. Ryan Helsley – I’ve liked Helsley from the get go and he’s done nothing to diminish my faith in his talent. He keeps achieving with the talent he has.
14. Jose Adolis Garcia – Bouncing back and forth from AA to AAA did not throw off his game, except for the power numbers. I think he will step up and excel in Memphis next season.
15. Andrew Knizner – What a jump in growth his game took on this year. Impressive and against the odds.
How lucky were the fan in Springfield to watch a team with an outfield of Sierra, Mercado, J. Garcia, Randy Arozarena and Anthony Garcia. Randy was actually at the top of my list for a long time, but he struggled down the stretch. The fans in Memphis may be in for an even better season in 2018.
6. Dakota Hudson
7. Austin Gomber – Did anyone come on stronger in the second half then this man. He was pretty much unhittable, untouchable, unbelievable. He has tremendous command of his pitches.
8. Zac Gallen – I liked him a lot last year and he’s progressed rapidly this season.
9. Oscar Mercado – His alarm clock finally went off and he realized his immense talent this season; 5th gear speed, defence in center, hitting for average and with gap power. Mercado, not Sierra could be our CFer of the future.
10. Magnueris Sierra – Defense wiz, excellent speed, but has no power.Looking at Derek Shore’s list made me wonder why Seattle gave up on O’Neill. (Not trying to influence votes as O’Neill has already been selected). Anybody else still wonder that?
Desparate times call for desperate messures CC. Seattle lost every starting pitcher to injury and were using Cardinal reject Sam Gaviglio in their rotation. They had to do something to save their season, so they turned to an organization full of pitching prospects. New GM Mike Girsch absolutely robbed the Mariners on this deal.
I have to go with Dakota Hudson here. He’s a 4-pitch guy with a dynamic slider, a sinking fastball over 95, plus curve and change up. In two years in our minors he has a 2.14 GO/AO ratio, which means he makes the hitters put the ball on the ground and lets his fielders take care of the rest. Sounds like Mike Leake, but with a much better upside. He’s a harder thrower who gives up weak contact. Gave up only 7 homers in 153 innings. How is that even possible?
Frankly, this argument about changing your mind on pick order should be a non-issue. Seriously guys! I’ve made a list that I go by, but its not exact. There are times when I read another persons sell job on a prospect (where are you Bob Reed) and I’ll move that person up. Sometimes you have to bough to expertise. There are times when voting for a prospect I like is not in line with a lot of others thinking, however, I note that a vote is close between a couple other players, so I’ll forego my pick to help decide who between those two I think is better.
I believe, although we all take this very seriously, that its meant to be fun. Opinions can change on prospects for whatever reason, which means we all have the right to change our minds on who we vote for from # to #. I think we’ve also been guilty of questioning someone else’s pick, but we shouldn’t question there right to make that decision. Now can we all move on to voting.
Thanks CC! Point well taken.
Just want to offer an opinion on the rookie rules. Going by memory here; if Carson Kelly has been on the active roster consecutively since July 19th right through August where he has accumulated 40 days and adds the 6 extra days in the first week of September, I don’t know why that doesn’t count as 45 days in the major leagues. I know, Sept doesn’t count, but that’s just asinine. He’s not a Sept call up, albeit he was last year and that time doesn’t count. I get that, however, he’s been up with the big boys for 2 months now. If its consecutive time then that idiotic Sept rule shouldn’t apply. Luke Voit lost his rookie status to over 45 days on the active roster and he was up and down. Thanks for listening, just had to get that off my chest.
Can I play too? I’d like to vote for Tyler O’Neill. He is the complete package and at only 22 years old I think there is time to adjust his swing to cut down on the K’s. He could be our clean-up hitter for years to come. That’s significant.
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