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October 9, 2017 at 11:00 am #35574
PadsFS
ParticipantVoting is open for #36-40.
October 9, 2017 at 11:17 am #35581#36 Bryce Denton
#37 Matt Pearce
#38 Ian Oxnevard
#39 Scott Hurst
#40 Nick PlummerOctober 9, 2017 at 11:21 am #35583David Greenwald
ParticipantBryce Denton
Ian Oxnevad
Nick Plummer
Scott Hurst
Matt PearceOctober 9, 2017 at 11:30 am #35585PadsFS
ParticipantBryce Denton – Denton was the 6th youngest player in the NY Penn league, a bit of a misnomer though since Yepez, like CC said, is younger and at a higher level and Carlson’s younger than both. Still Denton put up above-average batting stats (105 wRC+) there and has the prospect pedigree. I honestly forgot about Yepez though, so I’m going to move him ahead of Denton. Yepez played 3B half the time too.
Sometimes draft status factors in and, in the case of Plummer and Denton, that appears to be driving the votes for the two of them. That same draft produced Woodford, Bader, Hicks, and DeJong as well.
October 9, 2017 at 11:37 am #35588PadsFS
ParticipantI like Zach Kirtley and his 13.5% BB% vs. a 17.9% K% too. He plays 2B and was a young college junior signee….played at State College. Don’t know if I vote for him here though.
October 9, 2017 at 12:53 pm #3560314NyquisT
Participant#36.-JeMartinez One of the best pure C in the organization. Spent ’17 at PB improving on his defense and working with the pitchers he’ll be battery mates with as they progress through the system. Good enough to catch the AAA Championship game for the Redbirds. That’s a Hi-Rookie to AAA jump in one season.
#37.-Hurst Our top draft pick tailed off some towards the end of the season but still managed a solid .282 at State College. Another promising CFer at the lower levels, he could start ’18 at Palm Beach but I’d rather see him at Peoria.
#38.-Matt Pearce In line for the Memphis rotation in ’18 in a crowded field. Dominated in 17 starts at AA, 3.11 ERA 1.08 WHIP .239BA. Needs only to watch his HR #s.
#39.- Andrew Young Was the main spark for Peoria for two months (211AB-12HR-38RBI-5SB-only 2 errors at 2B). Was sent up to PB in mid-June and finished the season at AA. A great go-getter and can play 2B-SS-3B. effectively.
#40.- Anthony Shew Began his 2nd pro season at State College with 4 excellent starts (0.92 WHIP 27 Ks in 24 IP and only 2BB) before moving up to Peoria where he made 9 starts and matched his SC #s, actually improving on his ERA and BA. Will no doubt get a spot in the PB rotation in ’18.
October 9, 2017 at 1:02 pm #3560436. Hurst
37. Oxenard
38. Denton
39. Yepez
40. OrtegaOctober 9, 2017 at 1:19 pm #35607I could probably list 5-7 catchers here that I would no be embarrassed to list in my top 40.
October 9, 2017 at 1:25 pm #3560814NyquisT
ParticipantSo far we have 2 Cs. I’d say 5 in the top-50.
October 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm #3561636. Denton
37. Oxnevard
38. Bandes
39. Young
40. HurstOctober 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm #3561836.Jeremy Martinez C
37.Rowan Wick RP
38.Patrick Wisdom 3B
39.Scott Hurst OF
40.Stefan Trosclair 1BOctober 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm #35624bccran
ParticipantI’m going the Rodney Dangerfield route. These guys simply don’t get “no respect”. They’ve earned a place on the list, especially at #36-40 when they’ve performed at a much higher level than lower level guys with unproven potential.
36.) Patrick Wisdom – 31 hone runs and 89 RBI in 5 months at AAA.
37.) Breyvic Valera – .314/.368/.450/.819 at AAA.
38.) Nick Martini – .303/.394/.436/.830 at AAA.
39.) Matt Pearce – 1.16 career WHIP. Finished the year at AAA.
40.) Rangel Ravelo – .314/.383/.480/.863 at AAA.October 9, 2017 at 8:35 pm #35635Thanks for the info on Shew. I hadn’t realized he’d been that good this year. For me, still a little early for him given his age and poor 2016 but should make my list somewhere.
October 9, 2017 at 8:41 pm #3563636. Pearce – he’s just going to keep producing results and one day we’ll see him in the bigs
37. Sherriff – Already had a look and will have an opportunity to earn a role in the pen
38. Valera – On the path for an MLB bench spot. May never be a huge impact player but the utility infielder has value and we’re getting later into the rankings.
39. Hurst – Mixing in a higher draft pick that had some success
40. Je Martinez – touched AAA in just his second season. Organization likes what he does behind the plateOctober 9, 2017 at 8:42 pm #3563736 Mayers
37 Je Martinez
38 Pearce
39 Wisdom
40 EllisOctober 9, 2017 at 8:58 pm #35640After 9 votes here’s the current tally:
Hurst – 18
Pearce – 18
Denton – 18
Oxnevard – 15
Martinez – 15
Wisdom – 10
Valera – 7
Mayers – 5
Plummer – 4
Young – 4
Wick – 4
Sherriff – 4
Martini – 3
Bandes – 3
Yepez – 2
Shew – 1
Ortega – 1
Trosclaire – 1
Ravelo – 1
Ellis – 1October 10, 2017 at 10:50 am #3567636 Je Martinez
37 Denton
38 Oxnevad
39 Valera
40 PlummerOctober 10, 2017 at 3:55 pm #35700PadsFS
ParticipantAdding in Mudville and brianpnoonan’s previous round votes, I have the tally at Denton 31, Pearce 28, Hurst 26, Martinez 23, and Oxnevad 18.
I’ll close it tomorrow since it’s only been a little over 24 hours.
October 10, 2017 at 7:25 pm #35719Adding in Mudville and brianpnoonan’s previous round votes, I have the tally at Denton 31, Pearce 28, Hurst 26, Martinez 23, and Oxnevad 18.
Pads, I counted votes listed here for those who have their #36-40 listed … plus the votes for Mudville and Brianpnoonan from the prior round, as you mentioned you have done. I am getting the same totals for Pearce, Hurst, and Oxnavrad, but different numbers for Denton and Martinez. I did not see your choices listed, so perhaps that accounts for the discrepancy.
If you look at BlackHills Cards numbers for Denton, he has 18. Add in 4 for Sooner’s vote and that takes him to 22. If you then add Mudville’s 5, that takes him to 27. {I did not see a vote for Denton from brianpnoonan.) I see in post #35584 you mentioned moving Yepez ahead of Denton, so perhaps that takes him to the 31 vote total you’ve listed if you placed him at the 37 slot?
Based on BlackHillsCard’s 15 votes for Martinez, if you add Sooner’s 5, that takes it to 20. Then, if you go back to page 12 and look at Wiley’s absentee vote that he requested be counted because he is traveling (his vote was for Pearce, Hurst, Kruczynski, Martinez, and Sheriff), that would be 20 + 2 = 22, which is one off from the 23 you have listed above. (I didn’t see a vote for Martinez from Brian.)
Without the votes for your rankings included, I believe the current top 5 vote tally for this round is as follows: Pearce 28, Denton, 27, Hurst 26, Martinez 22, and Oxnevard 18.
If I am incorrect, please let me know.
October 11, 2017 at 12:57 am #35733Gotta make sure my vote is counted;
36. Matt Pearce –
37. Scott Hurst –
38. Evan Kruczynski – The only pitcher to debut in Peoria from the 2017 draft and he more then held his own. His numbers were comparable to Oxnevad, except his 3.41era was much better.
39. Jeremy Martinez – I think the org was too aggressive in his promotion right from the start of the season. Let’s hope it didn’t stunt his development a la Pete Kozma.
40. Ryan Sherriff – He’s made the Show and proved he belonged. Lefty relievers are always in demand. Look what happened with Sam Freeman. No reason Sherriff can’t do the same.October 11, 2017 at 8:03 am #3574014NyquisT
ParticipantI don’t think it is wise to go back to a previous round to start counting votes. It sets a bad precedent and participants will be less likely to actually vote if they know their vote will be added in anyway. It should be what you see is what you got. Heck, Noon hasn’t voted since 21-25. Let’s keep it real.
If Mud and Pads choose not to submit votes, they can pick it up at 41-45 if they want.
October 11, 2017 at 9:44 am #35750PadsFS
ParticipantAh. I forgot to include mine. Oops.
I went
#36 – Yepez
#37 – Denton
#38 – Wick
#39 – Wisdom
#40 – MartinezOctober 11, 2017 at 9:56 am #35753bccran
ParticipantPads – please take me off the voters list. Thanks very much.
bccran
October 11, 2017 at 9:58 am #35754PadsFS
ParticipantI only went back to previous votes to break a tie. Brianpnoonan voted for Matt Pearce at round 21-25, it stands to reason he thinks Pearce would be a #36-40 prospect.
I would always include previous votes, but some posters completely change up their pattern like bcccran.
Anyway, I’m going to call it for #36-40. Sorry for leaving my votes off!
#36 – Bryce Denton
#37 – Matt Pearce
#38 – Scott Hurst
#39 – Jeremy Martinez
#40 – Ian OxnevadOctober 11, 2017 at 10:08 am #35758PadsFS
ParticipantVoting is open for #41-45.
My votes are:
#41 – Juan Yepez ~ Strong season as the second youngest player on Peoria. Played half the season at 3B too.
#42 – Patrick Wisdom ~ Addition to 40-man is strong indication that he’ll be in the majors next year.
#43 – Rowan Wick ~ Talented pitcher, further ahead of Jason Motte at this age.
#44 – Ryan Sherriff ~ Put up good numbers at Memphis and in the majors. Looks like he can stick.
#45 – Josh Lucas ~ fantastic season as Memphis’ closer. Sent to AFL this fall too. -
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