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What about the pitching Bob, did Ludwin Jimenez rank highly?
I’m with you; let’s get Donaldson on a three year contract. The man is a gamer and a beast on the base paths. Upper echelon defense and offense.
I’m not sure Montero’s defence will keep him at 3B, so Nolan Gorman’s our future there.
Geez, I’m always late to the party, but let’s go for Dakota Hudson at #2
This year is going to be a major change in the prospect list. It will not resemble last years other then Reyes at #1. Lots of graduation and intriguing prospects added; Nunez, Gorman, Baker, De Los Santos etc. MY man Elehuris Montero stepping up in a big way. I think our voting is going to be very mixed right from the get go. So….let’s have at it!
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CC, Pads, thank you for the clarification on ‘rookie status’. That does make more sense to do it that way. We’ve broken in a lot of rooks this season with a few more going to lose their status.
I’m glad Robert brought up Joerlin De Los Santos because there’s another player whose production has been off the charts. The batting average is way up there among the league leaders, but so are his stolen base totals and that can’t be ignored. Our DSL teams are loaded with talent….real offensive talent. You’ve got to hand it to our talent evaluators in the Cardinal employ, they are exceptional. They’ve done an impeccable job filling two rosters with quality players.
Nolan Gorman is # 1 with a bullet and I’d rank him # 2 right now, but what about Malcom Nunez? That’s sustained production from this phenom. Not only will he be state-side next season, but he causes a dilemma; where to start him? Is the GLC too low even though that is where the integration program starts? Can they, would they, dare put him all the way up to full season Peoria? Just how good is this Cuban boy wonder. Anyone seen a scouting report? I’m willing to put him into the top 30 prospects for us even though we know, quite frankly, squat about him. But make no mistake, Malcom Nunez has introduced himself with both guns a blazing to us prospect geeks and its exciting!
As you guys probably remember, the MLB rookie rules has always been a bone of contention for me. The fact that September games don’t count is ridiculous. Apparently, the most important games to the playoff run don’t include the contributions of rookie players. Say what?! If MLB wants to wave the 45 days on the roster for September, that’s fine, but to say their AB’s or IP didn’t happen is absurd to the max. It’s just one of baseballs many stupid rules. No other major sport has rules as dumb as baseball.
I’d like to weigh in on this subject too. In the absence of Jonathan Mayo, I’d like to put forth the name of Zach Jackson just for redemption purposes. I figure they must be related. Anyway, this is one of my favorite subjects; something I ponder every year. I break this into 2 lists.
WHERE THE HECK DID HE COME FROM LIST;
1. Juan Yepez – Yes, I hated the trade too, but this kid won me over big time. Fearless and productive.
2. Elehuris Montero – Burgeoning power still on the rise. He got noticed last season and hopefully he becomes part of the everyday conversation in 2018.
3. Jesus Cruz – The second coming of Roberto Asuna out of Mexico? Okay, maybe not, however, he did impress in his short stay and has ability to jump levels.
4. Victor Garcia – So this one is literally out of leftfield, so sue me. He has power to all fields, but had a slow start to last season. I’m betting he jumps to the head of the line this year.
NOW THAT’S MORE LIKE IT LIST;
1. Dylan Carlson – He turned up the production in the second half and now he’ll amp it up in a very big way this season. He’ll own the headlines.
2. Jeremy Martinez – Not his fault his season went awry. He was rushed up the system due to necessity. This year he’ll be able to sit back in one place and show off his talents. In 2018…he’s BACK!
3. Tommy Edman – Same story, pushed ahead of his development by lack of depth in the system and injuries. Give him a locker next to Jeremy’s and watch the friendly competition bring out the best in both.
4. Ian Oxnevad – I’ve been in his corner since we drafted him. Time to step it up son, you’re making me look bad. This year, he puts himself into the prospect conversation for good.
Honorable mention from last year: Andy Young; only three players in the Cardinal farm system his more homers then he did in 2017 and who saw that coming? Anyone???
December 4, 2017 at 11:21 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #38750
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Nyquis, no organization in their right mind gives up one of the best at his position, especially when he’s still productive. You may not like Molina, but he’s one of the games very best and he takes immense pride in that. You don’t just throw away someone who has meant the world to his team for so long, so you can put in an untested rookie. Sure the signs are that Carson Kelly will be a good one, however, he has proven nothing at the major league level. He could be great or he could be a bust, we won’t know for a few years. Steve Young bided his time behind Joe Montana and still made the HOF. Carson studying under the master for another year can only help him when he’s handed the reins. In fact, in the long run it will help Kelly take the job from Yadier. Yadi is a Cardinal family heirloom because he has immense value even after his playing days are done.December 3, 2017 at 6:02 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #38654
If we want a backup for catcher again this season, i’d sign Carlos Ruiz. Sure he’s Yadi’s age or more, but he calls a great game, in fact, 4 no-hitters; has a World Series ring, good defensively. He’d be another veteran for the pitchers to trust throwing to and his bat would be serviceable. He should come cheap too.
Unless they can give Woodman a complete makeover of his swing, this is a wasted trade. We are certainly already loaded with outfield prospects, so there will be no pressure for him to perform unless Diaz turns back into the 2016 version, in which case, the Blue Jays just picked our pockets!
Defense is certainly the sticking point, but you have to consider that Simmons and Brock were the heart of the Cardinal offense for all those years. He wasn’t in a stacked Yankee, Red Sox, Reds, Expos, Dodgers lineup. Can you imagine Simba in the Red Sox lineup of the 76′
1. Burleson – SS
2. Fred Lynn – CF
3. Jim Rice – DH
4. Yaz – LF
5. Simmons – C
6. Dwight Evans – RF
7. Cecil Cooper – 1b
8. Butch Hobson – 3b
9. Denny Doyle – 2b
I guarantee Ted would have lit up Fenway Park for 30+ dingers a year or how about the Reds?
1. Pete Rose – 3b
2. Joe Morgan – 2b
3. Tony Perez – 1b
4. George Foster – LF
5. Simmons – C
6. Ken Griffey – RF
7. Dave Concepcion – SS
8. Cesar Geronimo – CF
I’ve been on board with Simmons in the HOF for as long as I can remember. Compare him to the top catchers in the Hall like; Yogi Berra, Johnny Bench, Gary Carter, Mike Piazza, Ivan Rodriguez & Carlton Fisk. Sure his offense lacks the homer totals, but he played in a pitchers ballpark; batted cleanup and didn’t have much in the lineup to help him, unlike the others. Ted led all these sluggers in Intentional Walks at 188 which was 20th all-time in baseball. The closest was (steroid user?) Mike Piazza at 146. Only Johnny Bench(891) was walked more then the Cardinal superstar (855). That tells me that teams pitched around Simba a lot because they could. The rest of these guys performed in stacked lineups. In spite of that, only Yogi(1430) had more career RBI then Teddy(1389). Only Piazza had a higher career batting average and on-base percentage (.308/.377) then our boy (.285/.348). Only Ivan (another user?) had more hits & doubles (2844/572) to Ted’s (2472/483). Berra struck out only 404 times in his career, but wait, Simba only whiffed 694 times in spite of having the 3rd most AB’s. All the others were easily over 1000, except Carter who was 3 short. Only Ivan and Carlton had more career Total Bases then Ted. Yes Simmons is last in the sexy stat of Home Runs, which is why he led all of them in Sacrifice Flies (100). Simba is 3rd in triples. There are 18 catchers in the HOF and only 6 of them could be considered to have better offensive stats then Simmons. So it has to be the defense holding him out. It didn’t stop Mikey, who only threw out 23% of base stealers and had a career DWar of 1.0 or Carlton & Ivan who had more errors. I’ll admit Ted’s 182 passed balls would have had his pitchers wishing he made more of an effort and his fielding percentage was the worst of the lot, but not by much .987 to .991 of Carter and Rodriguez. Ted Simmons did play in 8 All-star games and that’s nothing to sneeze at. So to summarize, in spite of hitting in a lineup of marginal major leaguers, Simmons was extremely offensively effective, even though he was quite often pitched around in St.Louis. Of the lot, only Simmons was a switch-hitter and in my estimation and backed by the stats above, I believe Simba to be a HOFer at the toughest position on the field.
Interestingly enough, after a year in which we signed a record number of latino players for the DSL, it took me until pick 68 to get you guys to vote for at least one; Herrera, in the top 70. Now 18 of our current selections have played in the DSL, so it can’t be a talentless league. And with all the talent we placed on the team, some of it must be good right?
Like: 1. Ivan Herrera – c- 17 year old lead team with .335ba, 15dbs, .425obp, .866ops
2. Freddy De Jesus – 3b – Who hit 7 homers as a 17 year old, .429 slg
3. Victor Garcia – of – Missed part of the season, but came back strong. Ranked 19th in 2016 International class. Has big time power to all fields.
4. Jose Moreno – 16 year old starting pitcher; 3.18 era, 1.20 whip
5. Enmanuel Solano – Cardinal Nation starting pitcher of the year. 3.28 era, 49.1 ip & 39 hits
6. Dionis Zamora – 2.56 era, 42ks in 39ip, 6 saves
7. Pablo Gomez – ss- 17 years old and a .300 hitter, 8sb’s,
8. Cristhian Longa – c – .284 ba, .371 obp and 17 years old.
9. Jesus Cruz – P – Was terrific in DSL so promoted to State College; combined 17.1 ip, 9h, 27k’s
10. Franklin Soto – ss – 17 also, but .280ba, 8sb’s, 13dbs (second on team)
I wonder if we’ve undersold them and how many will make the list next year.
73. Zach Prendergast
74. Freddy De Jesus –
75. Victor Garcia – Rated 19th on 2016 International class; one ahead of Arozarena and two behind Machado. Raw power to all fields. Started slow but had a much better second half.
All in favor of going to 100 even say aye!
With all the talent in Memphis, it’s easy to overlook a player like Rangel Ravelo, who was signed early-season after being released from another organization, but he’s only 22 and played very well for Memphis. And if you’re Nick Martini, do you leave as a minor league free agent and catch on with a team desperate for outfielders. He’s not quite Jose Martinez, but he could make it in the majors as a fifth outfielder. Mark Montgomery will certainly draw interest from other teams to be in their pens. I just wonder how many minor league free agents we lose. We are top heavy in young prospects at AAA & AA, so the older players being pasted can certainly see their futures backing up in our system.
66. Ivan Herrera
67. Rangel Ravelo
68. Austin Warner
69. Andrew Summerville
70. Evan Guillory
61. Ivan Herrera
62. Freddy De Jesus
63. Austin Warner
64. Andrew Summerville
65. Daniel Castano
Sooner, I think you mean Leandro Cedeno.
CC, I think you mean Shane Billings.
We don’t want to confuse Pads…..wink…wink
I’m fine with it Pads.
60. Ivan Herrera
61. Freddy Dejesus
62. Austin Warner
63. Andrew Summerville
64. Josh Lopez
65. Daniel Castano
Wow, Chris Ellis (25) and Trey Neilson (26) both demoted from Memphis to Springfield getting love as legitimate prospects. Ellis has never been that good or had any command. Neilson took his ball and headed home on a temporary leave and never came back. My guess is that he leaves as a minor league free agent.
Anyway, my picks are:
57. Ivan Herrera
58. Freddy De Jesus
59. Andrew Summerville
60. Austin Warner
51. Evan Kruczynski
52. Luis Bandes – Let our GCL team with 49rbi in 50 games, along with a 10hr, .520slg & .301ba
53. Ivan Herrera – 17 year old led DSL team with a .335ba, .425obp & 15 doubles.
54. Freddy De Jesus – Another 17 year old led team with 7hr
55. Julio Rodriguez
46. Evan Kruczynski
47. Elehuris Montero – Led JC in runs, doubles, homers, slugging and rbi.
48. Luis Bandes – Let our GCL team with 49rbi in 50 games, along with a 10hr, .520slg & .301ba
49. Ivan Herrera – 17 year old led DSL team with a .335ba, .425obp & 15 doubles.
50. Freddy De Jesus – Another 17 year old led team with 7hr.
CC; I assume you meant Derian Gonzalez.
I wonder who else will have to be protected for the rule 5; I believe Junior Fernandez, Daniel Poncedeleon, Matt Pearce, Arturo Reyes, Kevin Herget, Trey Neilson, Anthony Garcia, Chris Ellis, Tyler Bray, Andrew Morales, Derian Gonzalez and Ian McKinney just to name a few.
I agree with CC that O’Neill, Mercado, Gomber and Seferina must be protected. San Diego is lurking a drooling over our farm system.