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Voting can now get underway for our Cardinal Nation community top prospect voting.
I’ll keep the voting tally updated in this post
#1 – Alex Reyes
#2 – Jack Flaherty
#3 – Carson Kelly
#4 – Tyler O’Neill
#5 – Harrison Bader
#6 – Dakota Hudson
#7 – Magneuris Sierra
#8 – Sandy Alcantara
#9 – Zac Gallen
#10 – Austin Gomber
#11 – Ryan Helsley
#12 – Jordan Hicks
#13 – Randy Arozarena
#14 – Adolis Garcia
#15 – Andrew Knizner
#16 – Junior Fernandez
#17 – Jake Woodford
#18 – Dylan Carlson
#19 – Oscar Mercado
#20 – Delvin Perez
#21 – Jonatan Machado
#22 – Edmundo Sosa
#23 – Connor Jones
#24 – Johan Oviedo
#25 – Alvaro Seijas
#26 – Tommy Edman
#27 – Darren Seferina
#28 – Luke Voit
#29 – Sam Tewes
#30 – Kramer Robertson
#31 – Evan Mendoza
#32 – Daniel Poncedeleon
#33 – Mike O’Reilly
#34 – Wadye Ynfante
#35 – Chase Pinder
#36 – Bryce Denton
#37 – Matt Pearce
#38 – Scott Hurst
#39 – Jeremy Martinez
#40 – Ian Oxnevad
#41 – Patrick Wisdom
#42 – Nick Plummer
#43 – Ryan Sherriff
#44 – Juan Yepez
#45 – Breyvic Valera
#46 – Mike Mayers
#47 – Elehuris Montero
#48 – Rowan Wick
#49 – Josh Lucas
#50 – Andy Young
#51 – Anthony Shew
#52 – Stefan Trosclair
#53 – Chris Ellis
#54 – Luis Bandes
#55 – Julio Rodriguez
#56 – Evan Kruczynski
#57 – Andrew Morales
#58 – Derian Gonzalez
#59 – Ian McKinney
#60 – Joshua Lopez
#61 – Arturo Reyes
#62 – Daniel Castano
#63 – Ramon Santos
#64 – Daniel Ortega
#65 – Winston Nicacio(Prior years’ lists can be found via “PROSPECT RANKINGS” in the site left menu column.)
Here is a list from last year:
Alex Reyes 1
Luke Weaver 2
Carson Kelly 3
Delvin Perez 4
Jack Flaherty 5
Dakota Hudson 6
Harrison Bader 7
Sandy Alcantara 8
Austin Gomber 9
Junior Fernandez 10
Magnerius Sierra 11
Jake Woodford 12
Ryan Helsley 13
Paul DeJong 14
Edmundo Sosa 15
Eliezer Alvarez 16
Allen Cordoba 17
Dylan Carlson 18
Alvaro Seijas 19
Randy Arozarena 20
Tim Cooney –
Marco Gonzales 22
Nick Plummer 23
Johan Oviedo 24
Jordan Hicks 25
Bryce Denton 26
Jeremy Martinez 27
Ronnie WIlliams 28
Connor Jones 29
Derian Gonzalez 30
Jonatan Machado 31
Mike Mayers 32
Tommy Edman 33
Zac Gallen 34
Breyvic Valera 35
Ian Oxnevad 36
John Kilichowski 37
Sam Tuivailala 38
Rowan Wick 39
Matt Pearce 40
Daniel Poncedeleon 41
Andrew Knizner 42
Carlos Soto 43
Dennis Ortega 44
Andrew Morales 45
Darren Seferina 46
Luke Voit 47
Matt Fiedler 48
Jose Martinez 49
Ian McKinney 50
Chris Chinea 51
Trey Neilsen 52
Wadye Ynfante 53
Walker Robbins 54
Corey Littrell 55
Victor Garcia 56
Vince Jackson 57
Franyel Casadilla 58
Brady Whalen 59
Caleb Lopes 60
Sam Tewes 61
Bryan Dobzanski 62
Arturo Reyes 63
Francis Ventura 64
Oscar Mercado 65
Brian O’Keefe 66
Brian Sanchez 67
Jorge Rodriguez 68
Julio Rodriguez 69
Joshua Lopez 70Here are the players’ that are ineligible due to either promotion or no longer being with the organization:
#2 Luke Weaver
#14 Paul DeJong
#16 Eliezer Alvarez
#17 Allen Cordoba
#21 Tim Cooney
#22 Marco Gonzales
#38 Sam TuivialalaDoes anyone remember where (or if) we slotted Jose Adolis Garcia in at?
Also, correct my list if you see others’ that are ineligible. Kelly, Flaherty, Bader, Voit, and Alcantara are currently on the ML roster too, while Sierra and Mayers have been during the season.
Voit could pass 130 ABs still but it seems unlikely. It would be a shame if he did. Then we wouldnt get to debate with bccran about him being underated.
Bader could pass 130 only if he started every game the rest of the year which also seems unlikely.
1. Carson kelly
Injury changes a lot. Kelly is at a premium position and no matter reyes’ upside, kelly is IMO a decade long all star without the injury questions.
Six of one, half dozen of another. Catcher prospects are undervalued. Not by me.
Flaherty #1. Flaherty is a dominant pitcher and will be a starter in ’18. I could see him at the top of the rotation right behind Martinez during ’18. With Lynn not around, Wainwright uncertain, and Jack just becoming as effective as he was at AAA, he could pass both Weaver and Wacha. Reyes most likely will not enter the rotation, at least early on. Serious injuries and long DL stints are always in the back of my mind because they sometimes have consequences that aren’t always positive. So I have doubts regarding that. There’s is also that suspension that could become a much larger problem down the road.
At this point in time I see Flaherty as the premier prospect. If Reyes can prove that he still will have the velocity and command that he had developed, I’d be more than happy to return him to #1. He could be a huge factor in ’18. Just show me and prove me wrong.Flaherty is a good pitching prospect. Kelly is a good catching prospect. Obviously no one knows how Reyes recovers but he’s a potentially transformational prospect. He’s still No.1.
… If healthy. Pitchers always have that caveat.
Catching prospects like kelly are a hairs width from being that transformational prospect. Catchers are just that hard to find.
If kelly puts up the same ops as he put up in aaa for ten years he will average 4-5 WAR offensively. That’s consistent all star and probably hall numbers.
He is still developing. He could easily put up posey offensive numbers for a few years.
He has plus defense.
About the only bad thing you can say as a positional prospect is he isnt as talented as arod… Which is that once in a generation talent.
I repeat : good catchers are stupidly difficult to find. And by stupidly difficult I mean they are chronically massively underrated because of things like this.
Reyes? Oh he’s got the arm… IF HEALTHY… he also has between bad and horrible control issues when that isnt an issue.
Young, right handed randy johnson (i make the comparison because of wildness issues)? I could see that. If he can eventually throw over 110 innings and harness the talent. Haven’t seen it really yet.
Kelly? Seen it already. Just needs a shot in mlb.
Readiness, position, and balance of plus offense and defense trumps the arm due to major injury questions, lack of innings shown, and lack of control.
Obviously nobody shares my opinion but eh… Not the first time.
P.s. Flaherty has an argument too.
Carson Kelly by a hair over Alex Reyes due to Reyes injury.We all hope Reyes can return to what he was looking like before the injury.That said it could take until 2019 to see the pre-injury Reyes.Agrtee with Bnoonan.Carson Kelly gets my vote.
But dont forget, Reyes has shown (when healthy) he can perform at the major league level. Kelly hasnt.
Bader or O’Neill in a few picks….I don’t know.
I like Carson Kelly here at #2.
It’s too bad Weaver isn’t eligible. He and Kelly would’ve been a close call.
Sticking with kelly…
As for reyes getting mlb players out… Nobody has denied his talent. Small sample sizes and all that.
Trust me… This is one I’d happily be wrong about (not sure a current ranking opinion can be wrong barring reyes having a cy young year very soon or kelly imploding but regardless).
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