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Uh, wait a minute there, nate. Your logic has its usual large holes.
“Winning the World Series is all that matters”
“put a strong roster on the field like the Astros, Dodgers, Yankees”
Fact 1: Two of your three model teams did not advance any further than the Cardinals this season.
Fact 2: That Houston went one round farther that the Cards is irrelevant since winning the World Series is ALL THAT MATTERS. They have a nice team that has just one title to date in their 58 seasons of existence.
Fact 3: The Yankees last won the World Series (ALL THAT MATTERS) 10 years ago and it is their only title since 2000. During that same time, the Cardinals won two championships (Remember, those owners who will never win one, according to you).
Fact 4: The Dodgers last won the World Series (ALL THAT MATTERS) 31 years ago.
And you want the Cards to be like them.
Fact 5: Since 2000, your three model teams COMBINED have the same total of World Series titles (ALL THAT MATTERS) as the Cardinals, two. (Same in the last decade, one combined vs. one for StL.)
We may forget that Fowler’s best month of the season was August (.849 OPS). He then slumped from September into October, but it took time to see that. By then, Thomas was injured and out for the year. My guess is that had Thomas been available, he would have gotten a better shot. Then again, as we’ve seen for all players, Shildt tends to stick with his guys through thick and thin.
Many managers find it difficult to bench veterans in the post season in favor of rookies with very few at-bats (Randy had just 20). With the benefit of hindsight, it is hard to imagine anyone hitting worse than Fowler did in October, but he had been on that stage many times before.
When all is said and done, any heat for playing time decisions rest on the manager, not the players.
How the world has changed. Curt Flood, Jr. is soliciting money for a PR campaign that will cost $10,000-$15,000 per month, totaling $100,000, to run until next December. The sole purpose is to influence the votes of the 16 members of the Golden Days Hall of Fame Committee (1950-69) through public opinion…
Seems to me they would be better off lobbying the 16 actual voters, but what do I know?
Here were the 16 voters last time (some could change): Hall of Fame members Jim Bunning, Rod Carew, Pat Gillick, Ferguson Jenkins, Al Kaline, Joe Morgan, Ozzie Smith and Don Sutton; major league executives Dave Dombrowski, Jim Frey, David Glass and Roland Hemond; and veteran media members Steve Hirdt, Dick Kaegel, Phil Pepe and Tracy Ringolsby.
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Using OPS+, here are the Cards hitters who had more than 150 plate appearances with a worse 2019 than Fowler: Molina, DeJong, Carpenter, Bader, Jose Martinez, Wieters, Munoz and O’Neill.
Those who had a better 2019: Goldschmidt, Ozuna, Wong and Edman. That is it.
The Cubs’ third in command moves up to second with the Giants.
Scott Harris has long been seen as a future GM. He was an integral part of the Chicago Cubs’ rise and comes with the highest recommendations from Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer. Skills-wise, he should be an excellent complement to Giants president of baseball ops Farhan Zaidi.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 10, 2019
MPWR2, on the other thread, you brought Fowler into a discussion about Carpenter’s long struggles in 2019. I complimented Carpenter for agreeing to go to the minors. We all knew about Fowler’s history back in the Matheny days. Had I understood that was your reference point, I would have simply let it pass. Dredging that up accomplishes nothing other than to remind us that Fowler remains a highly-charged subject for some posters.
(Fowler’s OPS at mid-season 2019 was a decent .786, including a .357 OBP. Citing .576 I guess goes back to 2018, which does not seem very relevant today.)
Fowler’s improved 2019 (over 2018) might make him slightly more attractive in trade, but as we all know, there are major inhibitors, including age, no-trade protection and money owed. There is no indication that the Cardinals are considering moving him, but perhaps they could surprise.
In the meantime, be upset at Shildt for playing him and/or upset at the front office for not getting rid of him, but Fowler himself has kept quiet and played wherever asked since the change in managers (similar to Carpenter not saying anything negative about his struggles). That is my point. No one is whining.
P.S. I just happened to notice that Fowler had career highs in both home runs (19) and RBI (67) this season. That surprised me.
People who write prediction articles for next season before any free agents sign are working with incomplete assumptions at best. Given that, MLB’s Anthony Castrovince throws up a Hail Mary, picking the Reds to win the NL Central in 2020.
Guessing he is not heading to his place of gambling to put down a bet on it, though. If they somehow make it, you can bet he’ll be crowing about it later on.
To be specific, what persists is that Fowler remains on the team, but there are no indications that he has had any problems with Shildt or anyone else in the last year and a half.
We all get that many folks don’t like Fowler, but his contract and role have been discussed to death. There is nothing new here whatsoever. Those who have been upset will continue to be.
I was the one who asked the prior poster to elaborate. I thought there might be something newsworthy instead of a rehashing of events from long ago that Fowler and Matheny did not get along.
Heyman joins the bandwagon that Ozuna will not accept his qualifying offer.
Word is, Marcell Ozuna very unlikely to take the $17.8M qualifying offer. Middle of order hitter believed to have nice market. Had been seen as one of only maybe 3-4 players of the 10 to receive the offer with even remote chance to accept the QO.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) November 9, 2019
You and I see this differently.
As far as the PD or anyone else asking questions, what right do we have to snoop in the personal matters of an individual when it has nothing to with their job? Any idea how many players, front office officials and media members go through divorces?
Edmonds’ choice of a spouse was a reality TV star, so they have to expect to live their lives in the tabloids. But again, no laws have been broken, it appears. No one has been arrested or charged with a crime.
We will see what happens in the spring, but since this is happening in the real time, decisions probably haven’t been made. But other team employees who had problems that included court cases were not cut loose because of it, so I see no reason Edmonds would be the exception.
Personally, I hope that no one loses their job as a result. It sounds like enough people will be hurt, as it is.November 9, 2019 at 12:42 pm in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2019 #114051
I temporarily forgot that qualifying offer players (if they accept) have no-trade protection until June 15, so a Wheeler trade this winter would be almost impossible.
It is really a group project. 14NyquisT (representing all of you) and Derek Shore are key to the efforts.
For the season, Fowler’s OPS was .754. Bader’s was .680. What is your point?
Why would the Cardinals organization react to Edmonds’ marital problems? There are no legal issues, as far as I know, so why would an ugly divorce affect his employment?
As far as I know, he is still a special instructor who helps the team out when he can. He has been employed by FOX Sports Midwest as a game analyst, as well.
If that changes in 2020 is still anyone’s guess.
- This reply was modified 3 days, 10 hours ago by Brian Walton.
As we’ve discussed on the Trade Ideas thread, some of us believe the Cards could pick up a veteran LHH outfielder on a one-year deal to start at least until Carlson is ready. It is not as if they have no more money to spend. It probably just won’t be a major expenditure.
Just to be clear, I am not against another incentive-laden contract for Wainwright to return. I just remember similar optimism before they gave aging Lance Berkman a second year in which he was hurt and delivered little. I am counting on less from Waino in 2020 than he delivered in 2019.
Wainwright earned his salary in 2014 and 2019. He didn’t in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 and is now 38 years of age.
He has been a great Cardinal, but he may join many others who chose to not go out on top.
cardswin53, check out the reader voting thread pinned to the top of this board if you want to see the eligibility discussion.
In essence, Helsley, Thomas and O’Neill are out. Knizner, Arozarena, Fernandez, Cabrera, Williams, Sosa and Adolis are in.
P.S. I added this to the article for clarity. Thanks for bringing it up.
I hope they also used some resources to boost the admin’s and support staff.
Part of what was discussed in the press conference is an increased investment in the analytics department, new people and promotions.
If folks did not see it, the link to the complete video with DeWitt/Mo/Girsch is included in this article on the front page. If you are like me, you prefer to hear it in their own words and in context, rather than read someone else’s interpretation.November 9, 2019 at 8:07 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2019 #114011
Since Wheeler is now a free agent, the Mets would surely accept that offer!
Even if Wheeler takes the qualifying offer, which seems unlikely, the Cards would give up as many as eight player control years for one.
My last two AFL interviews are running this weekend.
Perhaps the least known of the three players the #stlcards acquired from the Rays for Tommy Pham, Roel Ramirez, emerged with a strong showing in the Arizona Fall League. The RHP discusses his career to date. ($) https://t.co/Q9kDN0fk0c pic.twitter.com/nd6QF8HJ4P
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 9, 2019
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Larry Walker batted .313 with 383 home runs and 230 stolen bases during his career.
None of the other 19,689 ballplayers in baseball history bested him in each of those three categories.
— Ryan M. Spaeder (@theaceofspaeder) November 9, 2019
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