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August 15, 2025 at 9:17 am #290555
Well Raniel has his own thread. So should JJ. I didn’t see one. If there is, delete mine and bump the other one.
Here’s a nice article about him.JJ Wetherholt is using intentionality to shape his Cardinals’ future https://share.google/vFNRXVQn9p0NLIXBb
August 15, 2025 at 10:10 am #290556“The analytics side of baseball is really cool,” Wetherholt said.
Stick a fork in him.
August 15, 2025 at 12:11 pm #290565“The analytics side of baseball is really cool,” Wetherholt said.
Stick a fork in him.
A person would think you have really poor reading comprehension if that’s all you got out of that article. But I know better.
August 15, 2025 at 12:54 pm #290568I see Paul DeJong all over again.
August 15, 2025 at 1:59 pm #290570Your vision and memory are faulty, then. DeJong was never a top 100 prospect in baseball, let alone top five like Wetherholt. In fact, DeJong wasn’t even in the Cardinals system top 10. His best ranking on BA’s Cardinals list was no. 14 in 2017. In DeJong’s defense, he turned out to be better than many, many fourth-rounders.
August 15, 2025 at 2:15 pm #290571I’m just commenting on how wrapped up in the analytics and biomechanics he seems to be. Maybe no one else remembers a couple interviews DeJong gave back when he was trying to pull out of his tailspin. Hopefully the same won’t happen to JJ, but he is way too deep in it as far as I am concerned.
August 15, 2025 at 2:23 pm #290572Ah, I get it now. Thanks for clarifying.
August 15, 2025 at 2:47 pm #290574I suspect that Bloom is much more into analytics than Mo has ever been so buckle up bling.
August 15, 2025 at 3:25 pm #290579Analytics can drive nails or mash thumbs. Mo is a thumb masher.
August 15, 2025 at 4:40 pm #290586I’m just commenting on how wrapped up in the analytics and biomechanics he seems to be. Maybe no one else remembers a couple interviews DeJong gave back when he was trying to pull out of his tailspin. Hopefully the same won’t happen to JJ, but he is way too deep in it as far as I am concerned.
You are going to make me go back and re read the article. I didn’t get that.
August 15, 2025 at 4:46 pm #290588Like you said, you can identify stuff that you’re not great at and try to find ways to address it. I think a lot of teams get super geared up to just look at that type of stuff, that they can kind of lose what makes a player a player, if that makes sense. You get so caught up in, “I don’t do this well or I need to get better at this,” and then you get away from yourself.
I think trying to find that balance point has been what I’ve been doing,” Wetherholt sai
This sounds like he’s trying to balance anylitics with his physical game. Go ahead and open your mind a litlle Bling. It could feel good!
August 15, 2025 at 6:26 pm #290595Okay, I am confused now.
Is Wetherholt doing good nowadays down in Memphis?
Or is he doing bad nowadays down in Memphis?
What’s going on with him?
August 15, 2025 at 6:31 pm #290596I do not suppose Wetherholt to be intellectually above other prospects of the last decade, and I would suppose nearly all of them were smart enough to seek balance. The system producing a ML impact player or two for the Cardinals roster is what will open my mind, not an interview, and certainly not one doting on how wonderous the analytics is.
August 15, 2025 at 6:49 pm #290599But interviews conducted by the media are the team’s primary source for all of the hyperbole that leads to marketing success. They may be more important than what happens during the competition that takes place on the field of play…If the interview is a good one, he’s either worked a shutout or hit for the cycle.
August 15, 2025 at 7:55 pm #2906021982 willie
ParticipantI dont care about interviews. When i see him on the major league field, thats when i will care. I dont know how hes doing down on the farm though i know you can check such stuff. My thought however is we have had more than a few players who have excelled there but didnt really pan out big time in mlb. I always found a old interview with pete rose interesting. I usually thought he was pretty baseball smart but in this case i didnt agree. He said it was easier to hit in the majors than it was in the mi nors mainly cause the backdrops in the mlb are much better for hitting. The evidence ive seen with cardinal minor leaguers doesnt support such stuff. So until weatherholt performs well in tbe majors, ill wait to get excited.
August 15, 2025 at 8:07 pm #290604do not suppose Wetherholt to be intellectually above other prospects of the last decade, and I would suppose nearly all of them were smart enough to seek balance. The system producing a ML impact player or two for the Cardinals roster is what will open my mind, not an interview, and certainly not one doting on how wonderous the analytics is
You know, I thought it was a nice article to share about our #6 nationally ranked prospect. Sorry to have insulted you and others by trying to start an upbeat thread about the team rather than whine and complain about the things that have gone wrong. I will go elsewhere.
August 15, 2025 at 9:21 pm #290612I greatly prefer optimism and hope over pessimism and negativity, also. My optimism and hope turns out to be misguided at times (and I don’t want to call out the players that come to mind). But I still prefer anticipating success to expecting failure. And I’m not saying I’m Pollyanna about everything. It’s just that I reject the constant cynicism. It all boils down to a conscious choice.
August 16, 2025 at 12:21 am #290616“Is Wetherholt doing good nowadays down in Memphis?
Or is he doing bad nowadays down in Memphis?
What’s going on with him?”After an unbelievably blistering start to his AAA time, he’s cooled off some. But his overall Memphis batting line is still fantastic.
If we prorate his one-month performance to 156 games (an eccentric number, I know, but the math is easier), we get this: .297 average, 39 doubles, 6 triples, 52 homers, 97 RBI, 149 runs scored, 91 walks.
I didn’t see much to fret about in the interview. When it comes to hitting, the kid seems to embrace the cerebral side of things — so did Mike Schmidt and Ted Williams, among others — but I did NOT get the sense that he’s been swept up in the exit velocity/launch angle nonsense that’s contaminated many organizations (not unlike how the velocity/movement fixation has infected pitching development).
Here’s hoping he spends the next 8-10 years as Masyn Winn’s double play partner, starting on Opening Day, 2026.
August 16, 2025 at 4:28 am #290617Here’s hoping he spends the next 8-10 years as Masyn Winn’s double play partner,
They have him playing 3B now.
August 16, 2025 at 8:39 am #290621bb said:
They have him playing 3B now.
Not exactly. Since his first game at 3B nine games ago, Wetherholt has four games at short, four at third and one at second base.
August 16, 2025 at 8:59 am #290623A person would think you have really poor reading comprehension if that’s all you got out of that article.
Go ahead and open your mind a litlle Bling.
Sorry to have insulted you and others by trying to start an upbeat thread about the team rather than whine and complain about the things that have gone wrong.
KCB – your insults weren’t about highlighting JJ Wetherholt. They were personal insults directed at Bling.
Amazing you cannot see that.
August 16, 2025 at 8:59 am #290624I would love to see him in St. Louis this year as much as anybody, but it just doesn’t make sense because of the 40 Man roster. Keep him off of it until they can add people to the 60 day IL in spring training, and then sign him to one of those “pre-major league deals” that buys out a couple of after arbitration seasons would be a perfect world.
August 16, 2025 at 9:01 am #290625BW, There you go with facts again.
August 16, 2025 at 10:42 am #290629A person would think you have really poor reading comprehension if that’s all you got out of that article.
Go ahead and open your mind a litlle Bling.
Sorry to have insulted you and others by trying to start an upbeat thread about the team rather than whine and complain about the things that have gone wrong.
KCB – your insults weren’t about highlighting JJ Wetherholt. They were personal insults directed at Bling.
Amazing you cannot see that.
A person would think you have really poor reading comprehension if that’s all you got out of that article. But I know better.
You left out the bolded part. It gives it a completely different meaning. That was convienent on your part for whatever your agenda is. Common technique in today’s journalism.
August 16, 2025 at 12:20 pm #290633
jj-cf-stlParticipantI read “but I know better” as a compliment.
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