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bccran
ParticipantIt would be great to get some eyes on reports regarding our newest young SS hope.
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ParticipantOne other hypothesis is that it has been blown way out of proportion by the media and others.
Yadi is frustrated by the performance of the club. Spats happen, and then people make up and apologize. Media people keep the fire
blazing by keeping it in front of the public.Also, some have made the comment in their synopses that Kelly can only play catcher. I doubt that. He could probably play both 1B and
LF adequately. He was drafted as a power hitting high school third baseman. With some work, he could get some at bats in the next several year at other positions.bccran
ParticipantGood business people measure success by ROI. The Cards have a formula for how much they will pay a player based upon runs produced and runs prevented. That formula has produced one of the most successful franchises in MLB over the past 2 decades. The Stantons of the world are way outside the formula. Dream on if you wish.
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ParticipantDo you want to put your money on Stanton being in the lineup in 2018 – or Ty O’Neill? Good business people don’t take on Stanton’s contract. Taking it on would be fiscally irresponsible.
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ParticipantI guess some on here, in their Cardinal bashing mode, have forgotten the Gonzales for O’Neill trade. He very well could be the big bat we’ve been looking for.
Tearing it up now at Memphis.
By the way, Memphis has the best record in all of AAA. Must be some serious talent there to do that.
With not many AAAA fillers.bccran
ParticipantHere’s an interesting stat – the Cards relievers rank 9th in the major leagues right now in ERA.
Even after all the late inning issues we’ve had. They rank 25th in innings pitched.bccran
ParticipantThe Cards went into the reliever market in the off season and look what happened. He was supposed to be a big upgrade. They got burned. Brebbia’s performance, Lyons’ performance, and the seeming resurgence of Oh and Rosenthal may have altered their thinking. They also have Mayers, Tuivailala, Montgomery, Nielsen, Lucas, etc. – and Duke is back. Perhaps they didn’t see what they felt was a true enhancement over what they already have.
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ParticipantBuffoons don’t bring success like this ownership and management has
brought over many years. We’re spoiled. A little patience will go a long way.bccran
ParticipantAgree 100% as far as OBP.
Carpenter –
2017 OBP – .381
Career OBP – .376Fine.
Fowler –
2017 – .333
Career – .364Big Problem. His OBP in 2016 was a career high .393.
He’s way off what we expected in this category.Piscotty –
2017 – .348
Career – .348He’s okay with OBP. His power is way down, though.
Gyorko –
2017 OBP – .347
Career OBP – .305Way up. Maybe here’s our future #3 hitter if he can cut down on Ks.
Grichuk –
2017 – .282
Career – .298Stint in the minors didn’t help much.
Molina –
2017 – .304
Career – .336The problem here is that his OBP in 2016 was .360.
Wong –
2017 – .377
Career .318BIG improvement.
Pham –
2017 – .371
Career – .361Fine
The real OBP culprits are Grichuk, Fowler, and Molina. Grichuk may see a lot less playing time if the Cards settle on Fowler, Pham, and Piscotty to make the run over the next 2 months. His door may be closing.
bccran
ParticipantThe problem has been with the players execution on defense, on the base paths, and at the back end of the bullpen. MM is not the problem.
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ParticipantOzuna would work.
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ParticipantNo, but 3 out of 4 of your up the middle players were minor leaguers several months ago.
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ParticipantI was fortunate enough to be in the 3rd row behind home plate last night and had a close up view of both DeJong and Wong. If they can continue to play middle infield like that we don’t have anything to complain about. They truly made some great plays.
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ParticipantWhere does he fit into the system upstream, though, competing with guys like G. Garcia, Valera, Alvarez, etc. And if Mejia, Sosa, Edman, etc. become multi position utility players too.
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ParticipantShows how these lists can be all over the map.
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ParticipantExcellent historical perspective on the Fowler signing, Forsch. In retrospect, I’ll bet there’s some remorse by management.
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ParticipantHow about this one – Bleacher Report just came out with their mid season Top 100 MLB players. Pham is #47,
Martinez #56, and Gyorko is #61. Pham is rated higher than Rizzo. No mention of Molina.bccran
ParticipantJust seems squishy, since it’s a few guys’ opinions.
All of these lists are pretty much opinion based. Fun discussions, though.bccran
ParticipantJunior Fernandez ahead of DeJong?
Sosa ahead of Woodford, Gomber, and Gallen?
Jones and Oviedo ahead of Adolis Garcia?
Seijas ahead of Arozarena and Tuivailala?
Jeremy Martinez ahead of Voit?
Don’t think so.
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ParticipantGood stuff, Derek. Thank you.
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ParticipantCould we see an outfield of Bader, O’Neill, and Sierra someday? Or move either Bader or O’Neill to first base to make room for Adolis Garcia, Arozarena, or Mercado?
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ParticipantI guess the biggest question is whether DeJong can play adequate SS defense at the major league level. Now and/or in the future.
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ParticipantIt’s really interesting with DeJong. He was drafted as a third baseman out of Illinois State in the 4th round in 2015. He played 62 games at 3B at Johnson City and Peoria that stub season. In 2016, he played 112 games at 3B and only 11 games at SS during the season for Springfield. In the AFL last Fall, he played 17 games at SS exclusively. So he had played 28 games at SS going into ST this season. And now he’s the starting SS for a team trying to make the playoffs? Is that catching lightening in a bottle, or just the best we have for that vital position at this point?
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ParticipantThat’s a super point. So if it’s your biggest disappointment it may not bring back what you want in return? Diaz might be in that category. If it’s someone who just hasn’t achieved a possible upside, it might be better, but you may regret it long term….ala Wong,
Piscotty, or Grichuk? Would Grichuk, Piscotty, Lynn, and Oh for Ozuna work? You’d still have Bader and O’Neill ready at Memphis if Pham went down. Plus Adolis Garcia, Sierra, Arozarena, Mercado, Carlson, etc. coming through the system.bccran
ParticipantIf we have Molina, Carpenter, Wong, DeJong, Gyorko,
Pham, Fowler, and Grichuk/Piscotty on an everyday
basis, where do you fit in a new position player secured before the deadline?
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