July 21, 2017 at 11:48 am #28212Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - AnnualJuly 21, 2017 at 11:53 am #28213OnyxgemParticipantFree
I guess he looks like a solid prospect, but really figured OF was the LAST dang position this team needed.July 21, 2017 at 11:58 am #28215
Only makes sense with another deal coming.July 21, 2017 at 11:59 am #28216
I really don’t understand that. I think Marco could have been a great reliever for us. Unless O’Neill is a great prospect or is part of another upcoming trade.July 21, 2017 at 12:02 pm #28217
Did a little more looking instead of reacting…
JUST turned 22 year old with some power at aaa… right handed power.
Still think this isnt the end of it but you give up a guy with an injury history for a position player with some power.
I dont think either team did badly here but marco was a little older with less team control. Marco should do well in safeco.July 21, 2017 at 12:03 pm #28219stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
O’Neill is the #29 prospect in the MLB.com list. There must be more trades coming soon.July 21, 2017 at 12:10 pm #28220
It does look better after looking at O’Neill’s page on the Mariners’ MLB top 30 prospect list. Now we just need to figure out our long term OF plans.July 21, 2017 at 12:11 pm #28221nbr1hawkeyeParticipantFree
His bio says he was a catcher in HS. Would the Cards try to convert him back to catching at this stage of his development? Surely, the Mariners would have kept him there if he could have handled it.
Perhaps the reason will become more apparent in the next week or so.July 21, 2017 at 12:12 pm #28222
Funny how we had the same thought : Don’t think we are done.
Talent for talent probably fair trade when including control. The guy is a solid prospect. And Marco should start in safeco and do fine. I don’t see how we hold onto all of our outfielders at the deadline at this point though.July 21, 2017 at 12:15 pm #28223Bw52ParticipantPaid - Annual
Great trade.Gonzales was probably going to end up in the bullpen in STlouis IMHO.Tyler O`Neill was Seattle #2 prospect so the FO did okay at first glance.Agree with most of you guys about this is just the 1st move with others still to happen.July 21, 2017 at 12:28 pm #28224
The more I read the more I agree with this.
He needs some development yet but he probably slots in behind reyes and kelly prospect wise… Which is impressive.July 21, 2017 at 12:29 pm #28225UConn CardModeratorPaid - Annual
Gotta be at least one more shoe dropping after this trade.July 21, 2017 at 12:47 pm #28228
But looking at it from the Cardinals’ point of view, they don’t need to do anything, yet. This means J. Garcia, Bader and O’Neill in the OF at Memphis. Sierra, Arozarena and Mercado at Springfield. Any of the other OFs at those 2 teams are just fillers, IMO.
At the end of the year, they will have to do something, more than likely.July 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm #28230UConn CardModeratorPaid - Annual
Good point.July 21, 2017 at 1:03 pm #28237CariocaCardinalParticipantPaid - Monthly
We don’t need OF help? That is the one place we need a serious upgrade. However, we don’t need more depth which is what this guy appears to be.
I’m guessing there may be a 40 man roster issue involved here also. Need a spot for Duke?July 21, 2017 at 1:10 pm #28240
A 21/22 year old at aaa is more than depth… .800 ops despite major major struggles to start the year…
Dont get me wrong he isnt stanton… But he’s got legit power from the right side and was top 50 before the season for a reason.
The reason I said I dont think we are done is because I just don’t see us leaving that kind of backlog of outfielders until the offseason.July 21, 2017 at 1:39 pm #28247CariocaCardinalParticipantPaid - Monthly
Having researched this guy more, this looks like a more than solid return for Gonzalez.July 21, 2017 at 1:40 pm #28248Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
I posted my analysis for members.July 21, 2017 at 3:00 pm #28257TexasCardParticipantFree
I gotta agree this looks like a very good deal and more should be coming soon.July 21, 2017 at 3:28 pm #28258
O’Neill ops by month in aaa (he turned 22 in june)
April : .607
May : .727
June : .863
July : 1.125
Yeah… I think we did fine. Possibly better than fine.July 21, 2017 at 5:14 pm #28269Cardinals2016ParticipantFree
I think the Cardinals clearly won this trade. This was the direction I thought they would go in last offseason – trading minor leaguers for minor leaguers because the acquisition cost for MLB players has gotten so high…
Now, the question becomes who gets traded as part of a larger package – O’Neill or Bader?
You’d have to think Grichuk will be traded soon…July 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm #28270Houstonlarry24ParticipantFree
Really like the move here and this sure better not be the last one.July 21, 2017 at 8:05 pm #28275
I dont know if it is quite that clear cut. It has the potential to be but given that outfielders are significantly easier to find than lefty pitchers…
Marco has less team control and maybe a lower ceiling… Maybe… But in safeco… And he can definitely pitch for them in their wild card race RIGHT NOW…
It isnt quite as clear cut when you realize that.
We basically traded production two years from now for production today. O’Neill has enough talent we will probably be alright but stuff happens.July 21, 2017 at 10:52 pm #28288858booyahParticipantFree
Guys been fast tracked a bit. The Mariners seem to want to challenge the guy. Hasn’t produced a high average at a couple stops but he’s learned to get on base a bit more. He’s does appear to like to grip and rip but he’s likely got more upside than Grichuk will ever show.
I also agree we can’t be finished. You don’t put a guy like this in your organization unless you intend to either play him at some point over someone you’ve got now or (and this is about a 5% chance) include him in a bigger deal.July 22, 2017 at 11:09 am #28313Cardinals2016ParticipantFree
And yet, the Cardinals couldn’t find any suitable outfielders last offseason, so they gave Fowler $6 million per year more than he is worth….
Marco was not going anyhere in this organization and his ceiling is considered to be a #4/#5 starter…
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