2018 St. Louis Cardinals Top Prospects Voting

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    14NyquisT
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    Kelly lost his rookie status and replaced by Montero at #30 by MLB.

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    Want to give Bryan Dobzanski a little love.

    His numbers as a reliever are looking respectable (2.08 ERA) and he seems to have developed a pitch that’s getting lots of GOs as his GO/AO ratio is 2.78 this season compared to a 1.00 career average (1.04 is his his career-best season).

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    Is it possible that Hicks has already lost his prospect status? MLB took him down and added Mendoza to #30. I guess Sherriff and Mayers have lost their status too. Flaherty soon to follow.

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    Most of these guys are only losing their prospect status at mlb.com. Almost every other site recognizes the difference between a prospect and rookie of the year eligibility which has a time on roster component. Most other sites (including this one) recognize that a minimal performance (innings/ab’s) is more important as to whether one is still a prospect.

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    Prospect status and ROY eligibility, objectively, should be the same.

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    Well, at most sites they are not. And while it makes things simpler, I see no reason other than that that they need to be the same. Why does MLB get to decide who is still a prospect. A prospect to me is just that. Something that is prospective, something that is still to be determined/defined. You can argue how much playing time should be allowed for that but it is a tough argument to make that 45 days on the bench helps come to that conclusion. Add that to the fact not all 45 days are equal (September days dont count even if the player was already on the roster).

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    As you guys probably remember, the MLB rookie rules has always been a bone of contention for me. The fact that September games don’t count is ridiculous. Apparently, the most important games to the playoff run don’t include the contributions of rookie players. Say what?! If MLB wants to wave the 45 days on the roster for September, that’s fine, but to say their AB’s or IP didn’t happen is absurd to the max. It’s just one of baseballs many stupid rules. No other major sport has rules as dumb as baseball.

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    Wiley, I could be wrong and I could be misinterpreting what you are saying but as far as I know AB’s and IP’s from September do count against rookie status so unclear what your point is.

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    Service time in September is all that doesn’t “count”.

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    CC, Pads, thank you for the clarification on ‘rookie status’. That does make more sense to do it that way. We’ve broken in a lot of rooks this season with a few more going to lose their status.

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