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Sad for your loss UConn, I agree no politics here
1982 willieParticipantSo nobody that pitched in Montgomery’s spot won a game after he left, I doubt that. Let’s say Lynn and Gibson are a year older so regress by some ampunt which is likely. Goldy continues to slide a little,maybe even arenado. Maybe our hitting doesn’t improve. And the other pitchers we have all miss significant game time due to injury. Not sure what all that subtracts to but maybe it’s all a wash and we finish with 71 wins. At least at the start of he season we will be tied for first. If by some miracle we get the Japanese pitcher or gray, maybe 10 more wins . Get both them we are talking
1982 willieParticipantWell Mo has come on the record to say the Cardinals arent done yet. Will have to wait and see what that means.
1982 willieParticipantPlayoffs with this roster, we are talking about playoffs. This is crazy.
1982 willieParticipantA 192 season does sound good depending on era but if I was betting, I’m taking the under
1982 willieParticipantI don’t live in st Louis but I visit when I can. It has a lot to do there. The zoo is awesome, the area around the arch is great. Grants farm. I could go on. Sure it has its issues but it’s great overall
1982 willieParticipantI don’t believe anyone would take on that 18 million for matz.
1982 willieParticipantGibson has dealt with a lot of injuries from research. Maybe not extensive but they do have cause n effect regardless. So I’m not sure how many innings he might eat up.
1982 willieParticipantGood for shildt. I hope he does well.
1982 willieParticipantI think we get worse since more than likely those guys will regress
1982 willieParticipantWe aren’t finishing anywhere near 500 with this. In fact 60 wins may be a high projection.
1982 willieParticipantAnother old guy, what the heck. We are acquiring a bunch of backend starters. Yea Mo doing wonders so far.
1982 willieParticipantI don’t trust Wacha.
1982 willieParticipantWacha really. I guess we are going for 70 wins now
1982 willieParticipantBob Reeds points about his numbers declining should worry all. When things start declining, they go fast. Kudos to him though for getting 10 million plus I guess a team option for 2025. Maybe it will incentivize him, though I’m not sure the dollar amount for second year
1982 willieParticipantWell bccran, I agree with what you said if he’s slotted correctly. I’m not sure he makes us better but he doesn’t make us worse.
1982 willieParticipantWell Brian you are making too much sense. This does seem just like business as usual. I’m going to be optimistic for now and hope that maybe they are expecting injury problems for those two and/or others. I’ll say this if their expecting him to be a number 2 or 1, we will finish this coming season just like we did the last if not worse.
1982 willieParticipantThat’s if the Cardinals aren’t doing their usual praying thing and hoping Lynn fills that number 1 or 2 spot
1982 willieParticipantThe last time I saw Lynn pitch was in this past post season. He didn’t look all that good.
1982 willieParticipantIf he’s being counted on to be a front of the rotation pitcher then it’s just a joke move. As a back end guy, he could eat up some innings and make some good starts if healthy. He is 36 years old.
1982 willieParticipantWell the Cardinals have went out and made the big move. They got lance Lynn……. On the serious side I don’t mind it. He can still give you some quality innings and ten million isn’t terrible. We will see if this is the best we get
1982 willieParticipantI agree that trades is more than likely where they try to get better but who do they have that people would be willing to give up to get better pitching. I don’t see a lot in the minors. Anyone you could name off the roster that would get us something that matters would be criticized by some then and later if that player broke out. If you think you got the the non pitching roster to get the job done, you almost have to go after guys in free agency. Trading one or two of those guys suddenly means you may not have that non pitching roster to compete. You arent going to get a really good pitcher just players that have underperformed to this point whether it be injuries or anything else.
1982 willieParticipantWell if we get Montgomery and that’s basically it outside of hopes n prayers, we are just where we were last year and we saw how that went.
1982 willieParticipantI think the deal for nola was far more than anyone else would pay. I think the Phillies paid him largely for the good he’s already done them. Anybody else wouldn’t do that cause he hasnt done anything for them. Personally I’m not big on snell because of health. That’s the only thing. Gray would be great and the Japanese guy would be great but I think he will get more from someone else than the Cardinals will be willing to go.
1982 willieParticipantCarlson may not be a whiff but he isn’t much more than accidental bunt single when you consider how highly he was touted. When he was healthy I didn’t see what all the fuss was about. Eye test says he’s average at best on his best days and he hasnt had many of those. People talk about all the players we let go that did well as reasons we are down I would argue that a lot of it has to do with hanging onto some players too long whether due to owing them a bunch of money or the Cardinals and some fans wrongly perceived value of them.
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