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August 4, 2026 at 10:12 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #114 thread – Tuesday, August 4 at New York Yankees #315356
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ParticipantCould be rat, could be.
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ParticipantI get that war values defense, baserunning, and such. Thats fine but i can value all that outside of the stat. Ive given jj credit for being a really good defensive second baseman. Its why i can say say edmonds is a hall of famer vs those other cfs though great on their own but edmonds in ways effected tbe game because of his ability to play in and still catch everything in the field of play and then some.defense matters but i dont consider jj ozzie on defense, hes great though. But hitting the ball and hitting it where they arent stil matters to me more than all the other stuff. I dont watch enough baseball overall enough to judge myself anymore who should win awards but if i was a voter i would def watch more cause i believe in the eyes more than i believe in some metrics on a sheet of paper or screen. War may give the guy more ctedit for something than i would vs another player at a position. Other than the dh thing which im not a fan of i dont like trying to value on position over another. I hated first base and never willingly played there. To me it requires good defense as well as other places.
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ParticipantJust saw red sox trade a prospect that was once untouchable, marcello mayer. Espn talking about it now. But its a lesson for some of these other teams that say we cant give up our best prospects even for a great rental. Fact is most of those prized prospects end up either getting rid of those prospects for nothing because those prospects good value goes away or you end up letting them walk away for nothing.
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ParticipantI dont know what to make of it all. Just makes me like these fancy metrics even less. Ill have to look at sals real meaningful stats.
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ParticipantI think its a good trade. How much it helps milwaukee i dont know. If may pitches like hes capable, they should be pretty good. Cubs have seemed to really go for it. Puts me in a hard spot. I really hate what the brewers didnt do by not making a real effort to get skubal so i think the baseball gods should punish them however i totally despise the cubs so i dont want them to benefit from the brewers punishment but the brewers have made it hard to root for them.
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ParticipantWe will see, all things are going well. I have far more hope for him than any of the draftees we got this year in the draft.
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ParticipantAll thats true jnenel, but its also more the reason why you go all in while you have your chance. I dont think the pirates are well ran, thats their biggest problem. A few other teams on your list are in that boat. Some of had oppoetunity but just didnt perform when they needed to. Reds,marlins, and twins had some chances. You can throw tigers on there as well. Championships and pennants arent guaranteed and they dont earn them just by playing so many years that the odds should favor them.
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ParticipantI also dont hold with accounts thar taveras death really waa the blow people say it was. For lots of reasons it wasnt good. But taveras struggled during his time in mlb. Im sure he would have turned out fine but im not sure he was ever going to be the kind of player anything close like pujols. Mismanagement of our minors was the blow that hurt our organization.
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ParticipantOh i agrer they have more to.lose than the dodgers but not that much more. Like i said, any prospectd they gave up more than likely make zero difference and the brewers have to think kind of like the cardinals did for many years, factor the division they are in. Like i said, if you are playing to win the last game of the season, risk have to be taken. Otherwise when you lose, you open yourself up to questions. We will see if they do anything with another team but best player is def off the board
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ParticipantWell i would assume they might have wanted their number 1 at least, milwaukee didnt want to do it. If you are trying to win it all, you take the chance. The only way milwaukee looks like a winner here is if they win the world series this year or the prospect turms out to be albert pujols, bob gibson type player. My guess neither one of those things happen.
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ParticipantGiving up a prospect or two doesnt hurt a teams future that much. Jus5 the same as those prpspects dont guarantee anything.
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ParticipantRays just picked up peralta. Good for the rays. Gave up some prospects to give themselves a better chance.
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ParticipantI really have to wonder about milwaukee here. Are they really serious about winning or just about being good every year. Now skubal doesnt guarantee a win for them or even the dodgers but he ups the percentages. I wonder what they were offering. They were willing to take on the remainder of this years money for skubal but that was only 9.4 million so it wasnt like a monstrous amount. Apparently they didnt want to risk their top prospect. Looking at the dodgers prospects given up, outside of the 21 year old outfielder i dont think they gave a lot up. The 27 year old is in triple a but if he was really that good, he would already be up by now. So i think milwaukee could have had him but instead foolishly held onto a prospect. Sure maybe they wouldnt pay skubal so they wouldnt keep him but i think world series would be worth it. If the cardinals were where milwaukee is right now with a great team in first place and a great minor league system, and said we arent giving up rodriguez or whoever our top prospect is, i would be one livid fan. It just tells me that more teams than i thought want to coast by on hope and keep collecting steady revenue than really want to win. So now i wont be pulling for milwaukee though in fairness milwaukee winning would be a notch against the greedy owners and mlb. But i cant do that. Winning should be for the teams that want it most, that lay it on the line, not for the meek that want to live on hope.
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ParticipantA lot of teams could of had skubal if they so wanted to or at least been in the running to get him. Tigers could have kept him and paid him what he deserved but they chose not to so i dont feel sorry for them. I wouldnt be so quick to say hes going to stay with dodgers. He may not want to be another great pitcher on a roster of great pitchers. He may though, we will see. But i dont feel sorry for any of these so called poor teams amd that def includes cardinals.
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ParticipantWell a player should struggle a little early on if the level is right, then the good ones adjusts and get better. I suspect the same will happen at AAA. Maybe even the show once he gets there. Id rather see a little struggle, then an adjustment than the kid just dominating. One concern with jj up here. I think he will be fine but having success early can breed overconfidence.
July 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147521982 willie
ParticipantWell maybe the boys are tired. Apparently baseball is a rough sport.
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ParticipantMan herrera really has it rough on those dh days. Im surprised he can make it home at night. Maybe hes sleeping in the clubhouse.
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ParticipantWell bader better do everything he can and more to prove he can earn that 10 million next year. I hope the giants give him that opportunity but we will see. Wouldnt surprise me if they just take the hit next year.
July 31, 2026 at 8:47 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147361982 willie
ParticipantWell leahy pitched great though tired at the end. Still great effort but bullpen just couldnt get it done. Offense sure didnt make it easybut thats no surprise.
July 31, 2026 at 8:33 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147311982 willie
ParticipantFinally cost them.
July 31, 2026 at 8:32 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147301982 willie
ParticipantCards pitchers playing with fire.
July 31, 2026 at 8:23 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147251982 willie
ParticipantWell its lucky rats that we are playing a team that cant hit as well.
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ParticipantWell i just read in another article that the giants are suspending baders pay pending investigation. Ive been a big bader fan and hoped he could at least find some stability but this is all on bader if the drinking is true. But its a lesson others can learn from.
July 31, 2026 at 8:13 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147221982 willie
ParticipantGot the double play. Thats nice.
July 31, 2026 at 8:11 pm in reply to: St. Louis 2026 Game #110 thread – Friday, July 31 at Toronto Blue Jays #3147211982 willie
ParticipantThe new pitcher didnt do well with his first pitch here. Hit the batter. Facing gurrero with bases loaded.
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