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Wow, Tyler O’Neill doing the Babe Ruth trick of homering for a sick kid. That is awesome!

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For those clamoring about upgrading the offense I would really like to hear who is going to be displaced.

Carp? No, he is owed too much money.
Fowler? ditto.
Goldy? ditto
Yadi? ditto
Ozuna? he is the only one producing.
JMart? Maybe, but he is somewhat producing.
DeJong: No, he was our lone “all star.”
Wong? I doubt it since he is owed $10M next year but it is possible
Bader? maybe

The Cardinals aren’t known for eating a lot of money. They did with Leake although it wasn’t really a huge portion. They did with Holland but only for half a year. They did with Gregerson but only for 2/3 of a year. I just don’t foresee them eating big portions of the Carp, Fowler, Goldy, Cecil, or Mikolas contracts. Just not their style.

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Yes

Always go with production over pedigree, especially big league production. Ponce could be the poster child for guys like Woodford, Fagalde, Parsons, and others who have had low expectations.

Meanwhile the can’t miss superstar Reyes has produced nothing but heartache and headaches.

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I agree with this take.

There is no way the Cardinals can dangle Ponce as a trade chip, at this point. Why give up on him & his years of control, and likely other pieces, for a starter who may not even outperform him throughout the stretch run? I don't care how you maneuver it, he stays in the rotation.

— Brenden Schaeffer (@bschaeffer12) July 13, 2019

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Diz, we would not get anything for Carp in a trade. We would have to eat most of the contact for someone to even listen. Why would someone trade for a .200 hitter who is owed more than $40million and well over the age of 30? That extension will go down as one of the worst.

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Regardless of Memphis Ponce looks to be the best starter in St.Louis. Hopefully tonight wasn’t just a dress rehearsal as trade bait.

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Like I mentioned the other day we should be all over this guy.

Trade Candidate: Roenis Elias https://t.co/nYMKa1Zcds pic.twitter.com/9etpFiPWgi

— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) July 12, 2019

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Here is a trade prediction from ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/27170016/bold-predictions-trades-want-see-second-half

3. The Cardinals acquire RHP Zack Greinke and RF David Peralta from the Diamondbacks for OF/1B Jose Martinez, RHP Alex Reyes and a prospect outside of the Cardinals’ top 10.

Any deal involving Greinke would involve a hardy negotiation over how much cash the Diamondbacks are willing to eat. This trade structure assumes that they’d eat quite a bit, which is why St. Louis would include two players they value greatly both on and off the field. But let’s face it — they don’t have a spot to deploy Martinez’s bat every day, and Reyes may have reached the point where he’s a change-of-scenery candidate.

Both Martinez and Reyes fit the mold of what it appears that Arizona is trying to do, which is to remake its payroll outlook while remaining competitive in the near term. Martinez would finally get a place to feature his elite bat every day, while Reyes would gain some fresh perspective in hopes of finding his immense upside.

If Arizona eases enough of the payroll burden, St. Louis would get the rotation topper it needs in Greinke for two more seasons beyond this one. In Peralta, the Cardinals get a bat to replace Martinez and a player who also helps the defense. The Cardinals could move Dexter Fowler back to center, where his metrics are good this season, and use Harrison Bader as a defensive super sub and pinch runner who gets occasional starts in place of Fowler against lefties.

Arizona needs at least some payroll relief and this would be a step toward that while the Diamondbacks could still credibly claim to be trying to win. The enigmatic Cardinals would get the shake-up they need so badly right now. They, like every team in the National League Central, have plenty to play for over the second half.

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I could see most of that Springfield rotation making it to St. Louis eventually. Not bad at all.

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Shreve’s stay could be short if we get Will Smith.

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You don’t say…

“The #Cardinals committed $237 million and 11 years in extensions to their first baseman, third baseman Matt Carpenter, and starter Miles Mikolas. All are in their 30s, and all have underperformed their expectations this season.” From: https://t.co/3iHdBwLL6o

— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) July 12, 2019

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I like Will Smith but I don’t like rentals. Hopefully that is considered in the asking price.

I sure wouldn’t want Samardjia. I would take Leake over him especially since we are already paying Leake.

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This was announced back in March but why are the Clinton Lumberkings having a Tyler O’Neill bobblehead night tomorrow night? Because he looks like a lumberjack maybe?

I think the Lumberjacks are in the Marlins system.

https://twitter.com/LumberKings/status/1103793001040695301/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1103793001040695301&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mlb.com%2Fcut4%2Ftyler-o-neill-is-getting-a-bicep-bobblehead

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Here is another Atlantic League experiment.

https://www.wgal.com/article/atlantic-league-all-star-game-to-be-first-pro-game-called-by-automated-ball-strike-system/28327579

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Molina, Ravelo, and Webb out.

Carp, Knizer, and Shreve in.

Yadier Molina goes on the 10-day disabled list with a tendon strain, and keep in mind a strain is a tear. That's the same thumb injury he's been trying to play through. Shreve is back on the 40-man as Hicks goes to the 60-day DL. https://t.co/FbFXxIn44A

— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) July 11, 2019

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VEB with a look at the second half.

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2019/7/10/20688801/the-historical-precedent-for-a-team-like-the-cardinals-making-a-run-is-not-great

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I am assuming Carpenter comes off of the IL Friday also. Does this mean Ravelo back to Memphis?

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The Dodgers finish in first place every year yet they still have 4 out of the top 50 milb players. Andrew Friedman is a genius. And no it isn’t just about their money. Most of their payroll consists of internal extensions or bloated contracts of players signed by the previous GM who are no longer on the roster.

They are a well ran organization. They draft and develop extremely well. You guys get tired of me talking about Theo Epstein but I think Friedman is 10 times better than Epstein. So is Brian Cashman.

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There should be some kind of tiered payroll system for milb players. Something like:

$40k for DSL players
$45k for GSL players
$50K for Rookie League players
$55k for Advance Rookie League players
$60k for Low A players
$65k for High A players
$75k for AA players
$100k for AAA players

That would be somewhere in the neighborhood of $17.5 million per year, or $1M more than Dexter Fowler makes each season.

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MM3, I wasn’t directing my complaints just at the Cardinal front office. There were 14 other front offices complicit in the Murphy affair….only the Dodgers picked after the Cubs.

And I have never viewed the Cardinals as a world series or bust team and I don’t think Cardinal management does either. Their philosophy, which I share, is that we should be a playoff team each year and once in the playoffs anything can happen. Where I take it one step further is my desire to advance further each year than the Cubs, which we have not done since 2014.

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Preach on jager….you are absolutely correct….and the sad part is the Cubs got Murphy for absolutely nothing….nothing….

Thankfully the Brewers and Rockies spared us the anguish of watching the Cubs deep into October.

2018 is over so I know rehashing last year’s deadline may not seem relevant but the point is that when teams ahead of us get quality players for nothing then either something is wrong with the system or a bunch of front offices were asleep at the wheel…..

Let’s hope that the Cubs don’t get a free pass again this year….If they are going to better their team they should have to lose some assets like everyone else….the Cub welfare system should be shut down

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They got Murphy last year for nothign when we could have used him and IMO that swung the the season last year for the Cubs.

Don’t remind me. I still get frustrated by that transaction falling into their lap.

When are teams going to stop giving players away to the Cubs? They don’t need welfare.

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It should have been Gant.

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Brian, if MLB teams decide to reduce the number of MiLB teams it is collusion, but if free agency suddenly drops off a cliff it is just a market correction? I know that you are a big advocate of minor league players but the two issues seem to have a common denominator to me, which is MLB owners wanting to maximize profits.

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There are a myriad of safety issues MLB could be emphasizing. I would suggest the most important one would be safety netting all the way down each side of the field so fans could enjoy the game without threat of getting their heads bashed in. Of course looking up at the field and away from the cell phones would help too.

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