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David GreenwaldParticipant
I don’t really get Nootbaar at No.6, he seems like a fringe/ fourth outfielder type.
David GreenwaldParticipantA point to make here: “Even if the Cards had not lost all three of their early selections in 2017 and assuming they are all prospects, the best total could have been seven, an average take at best. Further, the total of four from the 2017 draft is not likely to improve much, if at all, in the future.”
That’s not a completely fair analysis. Part of the strategy in the past has been to draft “safe” guys, bank the money, and then take more risky guys later rounds. So losing your top three picks not only loses those picks, but also the leverage to take risks. So they had to play it very safe and vanilla in the last draft.
David GreenwaldParticipantI’m out – got too busy at work
David GreenwaldParticipantI’m probably out at 50.
David GreenwaldParticipantNick Plummer
Yepez
Bandes
Orgeta
TrosclaireDavid GreenwaldParticipantBryce Denton
Ian Oxnevad
Nick Plummer
Scott Hurst
Matt PearceDavid GreenwaldParticipantWhat do you look at as you try to project which players are going to progress – size, speed, bat speed, strength, frame etc. The belief is that he has the bat speed and raw power but hasn’t tapped into it yet. Will he? I don’t know. We’re ranking him in the 30s not the top 10 at this point.
David GreenwaldParticipantAt some point the players have to perform, but at the low levels tools probably matter just as much and Denton checks most of the boxes still.
David GreenwaldParticipantHere’s my next five:
31 – Bryce Denton
32 – Ian Oxnevad
33 – Wadye Ynfante
34 – Nick Plummer
35 – Scott HurstDavid GreenwaldParticipantYeah I don’t know how much longer I’ll vote because I’m not sure I have the ability to discern who should be the No.31 guy from who should be the No.36 guy and so on
David GreenwaldParticipantGuys I haven’t seen mentioned yet – Plummer and Hurst. Plummer has struggled hitting so far but has a strong OBP. Hurst was the top draft pick this year, also a strong OBP. Just throwing some names out there.
David GreenwaldParticipantBlackHills: I forgot!
Amend my vote:
Tewes at 26
Slide my others down
Drop YfanteDavid GreenwaldParticipant26. Bryce Denton – still like his bat, still young but power needs to come around
27. Seferina
28. Edman
29. Ian Oxnevad – leaped a level this year, pitched better late, still only 20
30. YnfanteDavid GreenwaldParticipant21 Oviedo
22 Machado
23 Jones
24 Tewes
25 SeijasDavid GreenwaldParticipant“If he has at least as good a glove as Sosa, I truly think you probably have a better prospect in Edman. At least at this point.”
You have to look at projectability and upside too, not just raw statistics.
David GreenwaldParticipant16. Woodford
17. Perez
18. Fernandez
19. Oviedo
20. MercadoDavid GreenwaldParticipantMy concern with Sosa at this point is his OPS was less than .700 this year and the power he had shown in the past seems to have abated. Given the emergence of other guys, I’m not sure he’s even in my top 20 at this point.
David GreenwaldParticipantThis is really where the depth of the organization shows up – how many guys are legitimately top 15 players and there is not enough room for them.
I’ll stick with Hicks at 11
Then go with:
12. Randy A
13. Adolis Garcia
14. Perez
15. WoodfordDavid GreenwaldParticipantI’ll go:
6. Hudson
7. Sierra
8. Alcantara
9. Gomber
10. HicksDavid GreenwaldParticipantI don’t think ranking a 22 year old pitcher who went from Single A last year to the majors this year as the No.2 player is disrespecting Carson Kelly.
David GreenwaldParticipantI’ll go with Kelly 3.
I think people need to realize we have a lot of good prospects, but probably only one great one at this point.
David GreenwaldParticipantGoing with Flaherty. I think he has a higher upside and a more sure thing.
David GreenwaldParticipantFlaherty is a good pitching prospect. Kelly is a good catching prospect. Obviously no one knows how Reyes recovers but he’s a potentially transformational prospect. He’s still No.1.
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