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    Latest BA top 30 is out. Wetherholt graduated. Rodriguez moves to number 1, Doyle 2, Baez 3, Franklin 4’ Cinjtje 5, then Crooks, Bernal, Fajardo, Mathews, Mathews p, Roby. Interesting new addions are 23 Gurevitch, 24 Cruz, (a thin, tall youngster from FCL), 25 Odle, 26 Dos Santos.

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    I’m curious about this Cruz. 6 foot 3, 153 pounds.

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    Dos Santos and Cruz move up. Surprisingly Sammy Hernandez moves up to 30. Sometimes I think BA likes to shock us. Doyle still in top 100.

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    I personally don’t see Baez as being ready yet. He can maybe get some PAs in September, but I think he needs to keep working on some things more

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    Brian Walton
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    Interesting theory by Mr. Nestico. I don’t know him and whether or not he ever worked for an MLB team. I do know that having spoken with Randy Flores over the last decade that he consistently looks down on what he calls “third party publications”. Maybe he reads them in the closet or something.

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    Good read thanks Brian. I think that certain traits are important to certain teams really hits home with what the Cardinals do. Those traits have changed under Bloom.

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    Well, they are all looking at the same data and watching the same video. It is not surprising Flores likes his algo better than someone else’s, considering his background. Some think they spot something othets don’t, but that seems unlikely. It reminds me of getting excited about a teen coming out of the DOSL. If you jump on enough of them you will hit on one now and then. It just proves the law of averages works. The increasing use of AI seems likely to cause the algos to converge anyway.

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    It’s kinda sobering, but not surprising to see the Brewers prospect ranking is right below us and to see the Dodgers have 7 in the top 100.

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    Wouldn’t you rather follow a team that has a strong farm system than one that doesn’t? As I said on the podcast, the Cubs can spend to hold it off, but the Reds don’t have that option, sitting in last place with a bad farm system.

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    I haven’t had a chance to listen to this, but sharing it. I’ll try to watch some point in the next few days.

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-prospects-cardinals-contention/

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    The Cubs won’t be able to hold it off forever. Eventually they will slide back in the standings. To me the team that could have the bleakest outlook in baseball is the Padres. They now have the worst farm system in baseball coupled with numerous albatross contracts that will be on the books for years. They are doomed.

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    Yet, A.J. Preller continues to survive.

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    The Cardinas turned one of the weak farms into one of the best in a very short time. The Padres have a model if want to try following it.

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    The Padres model is an extremely risky one. You build up a highly rated farm system, then gut it to obtain star value players, then give those star players massive long term backloaded contracts, push all of your chips into the center of the table, and hope you win a WS.

    It did not work for them and they are about to pay a terrible price for it the next decade.

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    I wonder how Shildt felt about this approach. I can guess he didn’t like it.

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    It doesn’t make sense to try out-Dodgering the Dodgers. If you can’t outbid everyone and buy out your mistakes you have to do something else.

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    The Padres would be smarter going with the Brewers and Rays approach but Preller is too ADHD for that. He likes to be in the news.

    And yes I imagine Shildt didn’t like it at all which is why he is now a minor league coordinator for the Orioles.

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    2 guys who get no love that I have in the low 20’s are Hernandez, an 18 y.o
    Power hitting SS in the FSL (800+ ops) and Thompson who was a 2024 drafted but is already pitching well as a starter in AAA.

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    Brian Walton
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    Good to see you stop by, Carioca. I can’t speak to BA and the others, but Miguel Hernandez is 27th on our August list and Brandt Thompson is in our honorable mention group currently. Hard to see how the latter could crack the StL rotation, but I felt the same way about Kyle Leahy not too long ago.

    As bling reminds me, players can and do get better! 😉

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    Sometimes you have to go for it to win a world series otherwise you are just living on hope. The cardinals messed up their farm system by doing that but with teams that had little shot of doing anything even if they make the playoffs,big difference.

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