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ParticipantHi Brian! Hope you’re having a good evening, and all is well with you and your family. Good to hear from you. Looking forward to getting together again.
Here’s hoping we can finally get to .500 tonight!
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ParticipantThese types of forums have had polls over the years, and I think on average they came down to the fact it’s 85-90% player performance and 10-15% managerial decisions. Qualifications?
I played 4 years of D-I college baseball
(pitcher), but that was many years ago.As far as baseball managers, politicians, doctors, contractors, etc. I don’t feel qualified to be critical. Or maybe I just like to give most people the benefit of the doubt. Looking at the glass as half full seems so much more fulfilling and less stressful.
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ParticipantI just don’t try to point out and highlight everything that this manager does wrong and continually post about it, like some do. If a poster is fair, he or she would give this man credit when due equally as much as criticism when that’s deserved. I also question folks who have never been a major league manager saying what a bad job he does. By the way, what are your baseball credentials compared to MM, Forsch?
Should be put the 2 side by side?bccran
ParticipantMatheny bashers are Univision.
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ParticipantDiaz will be back. Wish the answer was simple. If he stays hot, do you give him his position back in St. Louis?
How about having both Diaz and DeJong on the left side of the IF going into the future? The D boys.bccran
ParticipantCards needed to give MM a bench coach who had MLB managerial experience.
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ParticipantWord I heard is that Jose came back a little too early after knee surgery and aggregated it badly. He decided that the rigors of travel and 3+ hours in the coach’s box during games over a marathon season wasn’t going to be a smart thing to do. He has a home in Jupiter where he can coach during ST and during the season with the GCL Cardinals and the Palm Beach Cardinals. He could travel to other minor league cities during the season to put on clinics as needed.
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ParticipantSome in the Cardinals’
organization have said off the record that the 2 people most missed this season are Oquendo and Holliday. Both made the whole team better, for a long list of reasons.bccran
ParticipantSignicant is a wide range, but my best guess of the Top 30 would be –
Reyes
Kelly
Flaherty
O’Neill
Bader
Sierra
Hudson
Alcantara
Arozarena
Gallen
Carlson
Helsley
Edman
Voitbccran
ParticipantTuivailala?
Pearce?
Ravelo?
Montgomery?
Artie Reyes?bccran
ParticipantFowler had played 1,003 professional games. 1,002 were played in
CF. No experience at all in LF or RF. He was the starting center fielder in the 2016 All Star game.
Think about that. Greg Carcia played games at 2B, SS, and 3B at Memphis. He was drafted as a
college SS. Playing 3B was not foreign to him. His value is being able to play 3 infield positions as a utility guy. Gyorko played
more games at SS for the Padres than he has for the Cardinals. He was brought in as a guy who could also play 3 infield positions. As far as relief pitchers, neither you or I know the match up stats,
nicks or injuries info, fatigue factors, etc.bccran
Participant2018 rotation –
Waino
Martinez
Leake
Weaver
FlahertyCloser – Wacha
Long man – Reyesbccran
ParticipantMy choice for closer would be Wacha.
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ParticipantMaybe closer to 8% or 9%. Should be able to begin to call it as they arrive at AA and AAA.
You can just about go down the Memphis roster right now and predict who will get at least a cup of coffee in the majors.Flaherty
Gant (already)
Hudson
Mayers (already)
Socolovich (already)
Weaver (already)
Diaz (already)
Mejia (already)
Valera
Wisdom
Bader (already)
Garcia
O’Neillbccran
ParticipantYouth rotation –
Reyes
Weaver
Flaherty
Hudson
AlcantaraHow do you know phase them in?
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Participant2018 –
Waino
Wacha
Martinez
Leake
ReyesWhat do you do with Weaver
and Flaherty?bccran
ParticipantFun to watch Cecil at the plate.
7th plate appearance in an 11 year professional career. First plate appearance in 5 years. He was robbed of a hit by the second baseman on a rocket to RF.
Classic.bccran
ParticipantWong, Piscotty, and a healthy Gyorko were projected to be solid contributors, based upon their entire body of professional work. Grichuk has been given a longer than normal gestation period because his power is extraordinary.
Giving Adams away for a low level prospect was the head scratcher. Especially when power is lacking in the system.bccran
ParticipantIt’s a game. Roughly 11% of minor leaguers ever make it to the majors. How many minor leaguers in our system? 220? That means
roughly 24 will someday wear a major league uniform. Maybe it would be fun to see how many of those 24 we can gain a concensus on.bccran
ParticipantFirst round draft picks Grichuk,
Piscotty, and Wong were expected to develop into at least major league average ball players. Gyorko was a second rounder. Those weren’t miscalculations.bccran
ParticipantHere’s how “people in the know”
at MLB.com ranked our prospects 3 years ago.1.) Piscotty
2.) Kaminsky
3.) Gonzales
4.) Reyes
5.) Flaherty
6.) Weaver
7.) Tilson
8.) Grichuk
9.) Herrera
10.) Cooley
11.) Kelly
12.) Wisdom
13.) Tuivailala
14.) Petrick
15.) Mercado
16.) Wick
17.) Petree
18.) Wilson
19.) Valera
20.) Perrybccran
ParticipantThe possible exception is Kelly. Who’s found his niche at a different position.
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ParticipantSometimes minor disagreements can be elevated to huge disagreements by the media. It helps sell papers.
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ParticipantCase in point, let’s look
at the Top 20 Cards prospects 5 years ago, per MLB.com.1.) Taveras
2.) Miller
3.) Martinez
4.) Wong
5.) Rosenthal
6.) Adams
7.) Wacha
8.) Jenkins
9.) Gast
10.) Cleto
11.) Kelly
12.) Tilson
13.) Blazek
14.) Stock
15.) Swagerty
16.) Gorgen
17.) Fornataro
18.) Ramsey
19.) Jackson
20.) McElroyThat was put forth by experts.
Possible summarization? Once you get past the first few obvious choices, it’s a crap shoot.bccran
ParticipantThe problem with that, as others have said, is that you never really know until they reach perhaps AA what you have with them. Especially high schoolers who are drafted high because of a “high ceiling”, even though they have only faced other teenagers. Tilson, McElroy, Peoples-Walls, Bean, Denton, Plummer, Ehrlich, McKinney, Kaminsky, Ronnie Williams, etc.
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