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November 15, 2022 at 11:01 am #206851
I never look at it this way. The Cardinals have more winning seasons than any team in MLB in the last 30 years except the Yankees and the Dodgers are 3rd.
https://champsorchumps.us/streak/longest-mlb-winning-record-streakNovember 15, 2022 at 11:04 am #206852The Cardinals run an organization the way it should be run without Yankee/Dodger payroll. The Cardinals are never going to be able to spend at that level. Why can’t people understand this?
November 15, 2022 at 11:15 am #206854I would love a Turner signing, but with Winns eta likely being next season, there is no reason to spend $$ on shortstop position. The money is best spent on pitching, stating pitching.
November 15, 2022 at 11:22 am #206857I would think starting pitching, catcher and outfield are Cards off season priorities. But I see most upgrades can be done internally. We are just going to have to endure many rookie moments. But I see a potential World Series team by 2024.
November 15, 2022 at 2:23 pm #206865slidinlefty
ParticipantJesse Winker would be interesting to look at. He absolutely killed us. Seattle is looking to dump him. If he turned it around, then that would be a tough 2-3-4
November 15, 2022 at 4:37 pm #206876If the Cardinals truly only have around $20M to spend then they won’t be anywhere close to signing someone like Trea Turner, who will probably get $30-$35M per year.
November 15, 2022 at 5:05 pm #206881
jj-cf-stlParticipantIt would have taken Wainwrights 17.5mil signing and the remaining funds, with a little change left over.
November 15, 2022 at 7:20 pm #206889
stlcard25ParticipantJoc Pederson accepted the QO…so I guess average players are going to go at some crazy prices on the market this off-season. I wouldn’t expect us to get much of anything on the FA exchange.
November 16, 2022 at 9:39 am #206908I doubt that Pederson would have received a one year deal like that on the FA market but the Giants really liked what he did for their lineup. Farhan Zaidi has been talking him up lately.
November 16, 2022 at 10:26 am #206919The Cards should look into getting a couple ex=Dodgers, Treinen and Heaney. Treinen, if healthy, could either close, or be a set up guy. Heaney might improve by pitching in St Louis, and the best defense in baseball.
November 16, 2022 at 10:45 am #206921Saw Tapia was designated for assignment by TOR
snatch him up, still a lot of upside and would be a great option for the OF
not necessarily the ONYL answer but would definitely force them to evaluate Noot properly instead of him being the only option
November 16, 2022 at 11:20 am #206927Treinen just underwent rotator cuff surgery and is out for the next 10 months.
November 16, 2022 at 12:25 pm #20693514NyquisT
ParticipantHas anyone else heard about Matt Carpenter coming back? He will be one of the players that will benefit the most from the shift rule. IMO that’s what screwed him up mentally. Plus he seems to have straightened out a few other problems with his approach at the plate. Its not like we haven’t brought back old favorites and got great value.
November 16, 2022 at 1:32 pm #206945I am not proposing to bring Carpenter back but Holliday was one of the people who helped him get his swing straightened out.
November 16, 2022 at 3:41 pm #206970The Carpenter stuff likely stems from Ken Rosenthal’s recent column in The Athletic. He acknowledged he has not heard anything about Carpenter returning to St. Louis, but said he thought it made sense given what occurred with Albert this past season.
I don’t know that I see a fit. I think it was best for both parties to separate and probably best to remain separated. It’s one thing to bring back a guy like Albert nearly 10 years after he left. Bringing Carpenter back after one season away would probably be flushing money and a roster spot down the toilet.
November 16, 2022 at 3:47 pm #206972I don’t think it would be in anyone’s interest in bringing Carp back. What revived Carp’s 2022 was getting to Yankee Stadium. I suppose that banning the shift will be good for Carp but to my knowledge the fences at Busch Stadium have not been brought in yet.
November 16, 2022 at 5:24 pm #206978What revived Carp in 2022 was that he FINALLY changed his swing. That’s why he hit so many home runs. Although, being in Yankee Stadium helped some. It is talked about in this NYPost article.
November 17, 2022 at 7:56 am #207013I didn’t see Carp much during the season, but I watched him in the playoffs. He went 1-for-12 with nine strikeouts. It looked very similar to what I remembered. All the best to him, but PASS.
November 17, 2022 at 9:44 am #207026What revived Carp in 2022 was that he FINALLY changed his swing. That’s why he hit so many home runs. Although, being in Yankee Stadium helped some. It is talked about in this NYPost article.
It didn’t seem to help him that much with Texas though.
From Derrick Goold’s chat on November 14:
This past season at Yankee Stadium, Carpenter hit .388/.524/1.082 for a 1.605 OPS in 63 plate appearances in the Bronx. On the road, he hit .253/.333/.506 with a .840 OPS this past season in 91 plate appearances away from Yankee Stadium.
November 18, 2022 at 10:08 am #20709414NyquisT
ParticipantAnother far-fetched rumor from that mill.
November 18, 2022 at 10:17 am #207095Mariners seem to be shuffling OFers etc.
Kyle Lewis seems like a missed opportunity, despite the injuries his upside is far too good…and they gave up a catcher…feel like we could have made a good deal there
-pick up Tapia…he’s not a world beater but good AVG, play all 3 OF positions, speed, good bridge age to get to Walker
-sign Q
-sign Contreras
-trade for Mateo from O’s
-send DeJong back to AAA if possible and make him earn the bench spot or dump deal, can’t carry dead weight anymore
– DVH is also on a short leash in ST—
though i still am kinda interested in that Santander + Mateo trade idea i thought up a while ago
Santander has real power, Mateo crazy speed…both a rent that expensive…O’s might be a good Hudson trade destination…add in some more ore to get that deal done and after we could still afford Contreras and maybe QSantander and Contreras definitely bring the combined 50HR thump as well as Santander switch hitting
Q upgrades the rotation
Mateo brings free SBs and flex and SS/OFNovember 18, 2022 at 6:40 pm #207161Bellinger non-tendered by dodgers…..be interesting to see how they view him vs Conforto or someone else for a LH bat
November 18, 2022 at 8:02 pm #207177Was Turner Ward Bellinger’s hitting coach back when Cody could hit?
November 18, 2022 at 9:33 pm #207192Bellinger would be a very good fit for the Cardinals.
November 19, 2022 at 10:32 am #207214The last two years, the OPS+ for:
DeJong
2021: 85
2022: 53Bellinger:
2021: 44
2022: 78Everybody wants to move on from DeJong, but people are advocating for Bellinger?
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